BoneDog Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 Christianity does. Just search the word God into google images and voila I come back to Adam and Eve. We know that it's impossible that we evolved from these two humans. You even say yourself God created the big bang but according to the bible it happened in five days? What about that matey who split the river apart with his cane? Do you believe that? Yes all scientists say that we were created but not by God. Molecules and Atoms my friend. Not snakes and apples. Evolution is FACT. You only have to go to the depths of the ocean to see that creatures have adapted to there habitat to know that. Those images of God are not from the teachings of Christianity I don't think. Some Christian might paint them, but I'm sure that the Bible says graven images are not allowed and these images only started appearing a long time after Christianity came about. The Big Bang is correct I definately agree with that as science has proved that everything is constantly moving apart and expanding, but it didn't happen in five days. I think the days that are mentioned in the Bible on that point are Heavenly days, not Earthly days. And a Heavenly day in the Bible is something like 3 years of our time (cos a Heavenly year is 1000 of our years). The start of the Big Bang would of been massive and far reaching obviously so alot would have happened or formed in 15 years of our time. I know that atoms make up everything we see but I don't agree that they came about by chance or are themselves the Creators. If you take 5 minutes and watch this video from 5.00 onwards this explains one of the reasons why I believe in God. It has an explanation of the Big Bang and someone reads a couple of Religious verses that have convinced me of their truth. The two verses used are some of my favourite from the Bible or Koran (I love both). The stuff in the deep of the ocean is truly unbelievable and awe inspiring. Loads of them look like fair rides at night! And aliens! Watching the deep sea programmes is just as amazing as watching the ones about deep space. I'm not convinced that these deep sea creatures have evolved though. I think they have always been the same from the very first. Maybe some new species have appeared over time, not sure.
BoneDog Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 You only have to look at those suicide bombers whose whole motive is based on a better afterlife. All religion is geared towards is life after death. If anyone is a suicide bomber then they are not doing it because they believe they will go to heaven. Their book says that if you kill one innocent person then you will not. I think that they would be doing it out of rage or mental problems due to family being blown up/shot etc. And some of these so called suicide bombings are not as we are told. Some are for sure, but nowhere near as many as we are told. Alot of the bombings in Iraq for example are done by Iraqi government (who are easily worse than the one they replaced) to kill political opponents or leaders of local communities who are getting support. And sometimes outside powers help with these missions.
Flynny Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 The Big Bang is correct I definately agree with that as science has proved that everything is constantly moving apart and expanding, but it didn't happen in five days. I think the days that are mentioned in the Bible on that point are Heavenly days, not Earthly days. And a Heavenly day in the Bible is something like 3 years of our time (cos a Heavenly year is 1000 of our years). The start of the Big Bang would of been massive and far reaching obviously so alot would have happened or formed in 15 years of our time. It's day, not years, odd that you don't remember as it fits what you're saying better! It's taken from somewhere in Peter I think, it says something like "A day for the Lord is as a thousand years" or similar. Still balls
BoneDog Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 It's day, not years, odd that you don't remember as it fits what you're saying better! It's taken from somewhere in Peter I think, it says something like "A day for the Lord is as a thousand years" or similar.Still balls It's not balls! The unseen dimension or parallel universe as I hear it called by these quantam thingy-ma-bobs on tele call it has no concept of time as us humans know it. I always thought it was 1000 something or other, just thought 1 Heavenly year was 1000 of our years! Which would of been about 3 years a day.
Flynny Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 It's not balls! The unseen dimension or parallel universe as I hear it called by these quantam thingy-ma-bobs on tele call it has no concept of time as us humans know it.I always thought it was 1000 something or other, just thought 1 Heavenly year was 1000 of our years! Which would of been about 3 years a day. It's not balls! The unseen dimension or parallel universe as I hear it called by these quantam thingy-ma-bobs on tele call it has no concept of time as us humans know it. That'll be you backing up your point with that science that's quite often wrong then? 1 day - 1000 years, not one year. 2 Peter 3:8, I went and checked and everything.
BoneDog Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 wheres your belief system now Still going strong. But I've never believed in none of that rapture shite! Got nothing to do with Jesus has that.
Babylon Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 That'll be you backing up your point with that science that's quite often wrong then?1 day - 1000 years, not one year. 2 Peter 3:8, I went and checked and everything. Peter 4:6 - "Attention restaurant customers.... Testicles. That is all. "
BoneDog Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 That'll be you backing up your point with that science that's quite often wrong then?1 day - 1000 years, not one year. 2 Peter 3:8, I went and checked and everything. Science is quite often wrong yes. We all know that for sure. I've got no problems with science, I don't think I've said otherwise. Science is good for my beliefs as it keeps proving more to the world that there is obviously a Creator.
Daggers Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 IF there was an omnipotent being then why would he give a flying toss whether Britain considered itself to be Christian or not? Consequently, why are Christians so feeble-minded about the issue?
BoneDog Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 Science and Religion go hand in hand as all the greats have said over the years. IF there was an omnipotent being then why would he give a flying toss whether Britain considered itself to be Christian or not?Consequently, why are Christians so feeble-minded about the issue? God doesn't give a toss I don't think. It's only humans who argue about it.
Babylon Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 Science is good for my beliefs as it keeps proving more to the world that there is obviously a Creator.
Zingari Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 there may or maybe not be a god and no-one will ever know for sure , but organised religions are no more and no less just mind control of the masses . that's not to say that atheists are immune to it , just that more subtle methods are applied to us now
BoneDog Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 Is it quantum physics that talks about parallel universes and all that? Cos if it is then that helps me out in my belief even more. I already know that there are unseen things around us, so quantum whatever it is just confirms it. Hallelujah This is what the world famous chequered floor represents down the Lodge (every lodge). It represents the merging of the 2 worlds, the unseen world that is all around us, and our world that we all see.
BoneDog Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 They weren't my words, they are the words of a scientist!
samlcfc Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 If god had the ability to create a mass of planets as heaven that are devoid of all hatred and evil then why dont we just live there to start with. Why did he also create this shit heap. He must just be a massive bell that likes fooking with people
Babylon Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 They weren't my words, they are the words of a scientist! Shall I find you the other million who think it's a pile of complete horse shite? Honestly, you are typical of the blinkered religious nut jobs who have closed their minds to everything except that which they want to hear. I don't know why I'm wasting my time with it. You can present as many youtube videos as you want from as many nut jobs as you want, there will be another 50 on there saying the complete opposite. Goodnight Vienna.
BoneDog Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 If god had the ability to create a mass of planets as heaven that are devoid of all hatred and evil then why dont we just live there to start with. Why did he also create this shit heap. He must just be a massive bell that likes fooking with people I haven't got a clue why. He did though
Zingari Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 Watch the film "Zeitgeist" , it explains how religions are formed
BoneDog Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 Shall I find you the other million who think it's a pile of complete horse shite? Honestly, you are typical of the blinkered religious nut jobs who have closed their minds to everything except that which they want to hear. I don't know why I'm wasting my time with it. You can present as many youtube videos as you want from as many nut jobs as you want, there will be another 50 on there saying the complete opposite. Goodnight Vienna. Nice one I can always find just as many who believe as you can find who don't. It's simple cyril, more scientists believe in a Creator than don't. Majority of the highest level scientists in the world are members of a Lodge, so we know they believe for starters (as it is required to gain access to the Lodge). It really does make me laugh how some folk mention science and think that it is end of arguement! And I am not blinkered in the slightest. My mind is far more open than yours I would bet anything on that.
samlcfc Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 If god created a world where other people can created by him can kill and harm each other then surely he's insiting GBH and murder . Im sure if i did it though, id be in his bad books and go to hell. Surely he should go to hell. Thats the kind of thing that seems stupid to me. He punishes people for things he's gave them the ability to do and then sends them to hell for eternity yet im sure these people would rather have not been created than spend the rest of time chillin with the devil
BoneDog Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 Watch the film "Zeitgeist" , it explains how religions are formed I've seen it, it's a pretty good film, some flaws though! I prefer 'Confronting the Evidence' and a few others but zeitgeist is a good watch
Zingari Posted 23 October 2009 Posted 23 October 2009 I've seen it, it's a pretty good film, some flaws though! I prefer 'Confronting the Evidence' and a few others but zeitgeist is a good watch yes "in plane sight " by dave von kliest is excellent too
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