Radovan's Caravan Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 A bit unfair on our conspiracy theory resident experts - Zingari and El Empty And I can't really understand the reason for your sniping against RC Unless he distracts you from really important and noteworthy activities Such as preparing for your next bout of verbal fisticuffs with Fox 92 It's the old Celtic chip. He's never forgiven me for revealing the true constitutional position of his 'nation'.
Finnegan Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 And I can't really understand the reason for your sniping against RCUnless he distracts you from really important and noteworthy activities Such as preparing for your next bout of verbal fisticuffs with Fox 92 Firstly, it's the internet - that's reason enough for a wee bit of sniping, monsieur Chandler ne'er spared a soul and I'm sure he's perfectly ready to take a bit of banter back in his direction. Secondly, while it pains me to be overly pedantic Fox 92 and fox123 are different people. I don't get on too well with fox123, as is evident, but I'd not do him the terrible diservice of confusing him with that plank. It's the old Celtic chip. He's never forgiven me for revealing the true constitutional position of his 'nation'. For the last time. You made no great revelations about the legal status of Wales, I am not irritated with you in regards to Wales and it comes as no surprise that a fairly well educated Englishman as yourself should know the "constitutional positions" of the countries that make up the union.
skinnydipper Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 Firstly, it's the internet - that's reason enough for a wee bit of sniping, monsieur Chandler ne'er spared a soul and I'm sure he's perfectly ready to take a bit of banter back in his direction. Secondly, while it pains me to be overly pedantic Fox 92 and fox123 are different people. I don't get on too well with fox123, as is evident, but I'd not do him the terrible diservice of confusing him with that plank. For the last time. You made no great revelations about the legal status of Wales, I am not irritated with you in regards to Wales and it comes as no surprise that a fairly well educated Englishman as yourself should know the "constitutional positions" of the countries that make up the union. I'm sure he can look after himself but more than one of your posts in this thread indicate a bit of history between the two of you. I couldn't remember who the recent tete- a- tete was with and frankly couldn't be arsed to check although I do recall having been mildly entertained by the gladiatorial battle
Finnegan Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 I'm sure he can look after himself but more than one of your posts in this thread indicate a bit of history between the two of you. I dislike bullshit. I'm pretty plain talking and pretty open and I like those qualities in other people. Making some pseudonym account and then trawling a forum pretending to support neither club nor country whilst floundering around arguing with a bunch of people clearly below his IQ for the sakes of whatever satisfaction he can get doesn't exactly endear him to me. I have my flaws and have no delusions about my own superiority or likeability, that's not going to stop me lambasting others whom I dislike.
Radovan's Caravan Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 I dislike bullshit. I'm pretty plain talking and pretty open and I like those qualities in other people.Making some pseudonym account and then trawling a forum pretending to support neither club nor country whilst floundering around arguing with a bunch of people clearly below his IQ for the sakes of whatever satisfaction he can get doesn't exactly endear him to me. I have my flaws and have no delusions about my own superiority or likeability, that's not going to stop me lambasting others whom I dislike. You will be glad to know that your capacity for humbug has left me speechless (momentarily)
skinnydipper Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 I dislike bullshit. I'm pretty plain talking and pretty open and I like those qualities in other people.Making some pseudonym account and then trawling a forum pretending to support neither club nor country whilst floundering around arguing with a bunch of people clearly below his IQ for the sakes of whatever satisfaction he can get doesn't exactly endear him to me. I have my flaws and have no delusions about my own superiority or likeability, that's not going to stop me lambasting others whom I dislike. But sometimes bullshit can be such a rich source of entertainment. If you have such a strong dislike for it, why loiter on here so much (particularly General Chat) and why be a Mod? .... unless it fulfils a noble sense of public duty. As for Radovan Chandler I've only read his posts in the Madeleine McCann thread (interesting, well written posts compromised by a failure to deliver on his hinted at theories) and those in this thread which make no sense to me but IMO are worth a read nonetheless. I can't be arsed to trawl back through this thread but from recollection his adverse comments about other posters have generally tended to be reactive. Anyway , enough worm can opening for one day. Cheerio
Zingari Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 A bit unfair on our conspiracy theory resident experts - Zingari and El Empty And I can't really understand the reason for your sniping against RC Unless he distracts you from really important and noteworthy activities Such as preparing for your next bout of verbal fisticuffs with Fox 92 OI !! I would prefer it if I were second billing to El Empty Actually I feel quite good about being mentioned in the same sentence as he , because he comes across as a real nice guy who just happens to have an open mind on some things in life . eg Who actually believes that , Marinus van der Lubbe was resposible for burning down the Reichstag anymore Who actually believes LHO shot JFK anymore , Who still believes that FDR did not have " prior knowledge of the attack on Pearl Harbour Who actually believes that the gulf of Tonkin incident happened just as LBJ said it did , causing the USA to enter the Vietnam war ? Anyone believing in anything other than these stories at the time were "conspiracy nutcases" and I believe we need to be just as aware now of new conspiracies theories that will one day just be accepted as "something that happened a long time ago" but couldn't possibly happen now ( maybe ther is more to 911 and 7/7 than the official line ) I really don't know but if history teaches us anything it is to retain a heathy mistrust of the official version of events there certainly seems to be a growing number of people in the states unwilling to believe the official version of events of 911 and there are a lot of things around 7/7 that make me feel uneasy I really don't see too much wrong with that even if someone that Finners has read does have a " theory" about conspiracy theorists
Finnegan Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 But sometimes bullshit can be such a rich source of entertainment. True! If you have such a strong dislike for it, why loiter on here so much (particularly General Chat) and why be a Mod? .... unless it fulfils a noble sense of public duty. I'm powered by hate. Seriously, I love to hate. I'm always ranting about something or other, don't worry about it.
skinnydipper Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 OI !! I would prefer it if I were second billing to El Empty Actually I feel quite good about being mentioned in the same sentence as he , because he comes across as a real nice guy who just happens to have an open mind on some things in life . eg Who actually believes that , Marinus van der Lubbe was resposible for burning down the Reichstag anymore Who actually believes LHO shot JFK anymore , Who still believes that FDR did not have " prior knowledge of the attack on Pearl Harbour Who actually believes that the gulf of Tonkin incident happened just as LBJ said it did , causing the USA to enter the Vietnam war ? Anyone believing in anything other than these stories at the time were "conspiracy nutcases" and I believe we need to be just as aware now of new conspiracies theories that will one day just be accepted as "something that happened a long time ago" but couldn't possibly happen now ( maybe ther is more to 911 and 7/7 than the official line ) I really don't know but if history teaches us anything it is to retain a heathy mistrust of the official version of events there certainly seems to be a growing number of people in the states unwilling to believe the official version of events of 911 and there are a lot of things around 7/7 that make me feel uneasy I really don't see too much wrong with that even if someone that Finners has read does have a " theory" about conspiracy theorists Reading up on some conspiracy theory stuff is on my to do list I expect to come across a fair amount of utter bollocks But I also expect to see some credible alternatives to the propaganda that we're often spoon-fed After all ,Iraqgate demonstrates how foolhardy it is to accept the official line without question Anyway, where's that Tiger Woods.
Guest Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 Anyway, where's that Tiger Woods. I believe he's exercising Shergar whilst he waits for Elvis to finish in the bathroom.
Zingari Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 Reading up on some conspiracy theory stuff is on my to do listI expect to come across a fair amount of utter bollocks But I also expect to see some credible alternatives to the propaganda that we're often spoon-fed After all ,Iraqgate demonstrates how foolhardy it is to accept the official line without question Anyway, where's that Tiger Woods. Not too interested in the antics of the likes of Tiger myself . I'd say the vast majority of conspiracy theory is utter bollox , and it makes me wonder if most of it is put about to muddy the waters of the serious stuff . But i'm pretty certain that all in he world is not as it is portrayed For instance if you are interested in say the JFK assassination ( a great place to start ) , read stuff by the likes of Gary Mack Fletcher Prouty or Cyril Wecht , they cannot be dismissed as lunatics . a good understanding of the events surrounding the death of JFK and the subsequent events that followed gives an ideal platform to make a lot of the other stuff make more sense All the best if you do decide to get on the slippery slope
BoneDog Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 I read this fantastic article on the sort of fringe-of-society losers who buy into conspiracy theories because they struggle to identify or fit in with most people.It always makes me grin when you see some unhinged, socially awkward goon babble off about this or that mumbo jumbo and kind of prove it all right. I might of got this wrong Finnegan but are you saying that 'conspiracies' don't happen and that folk who believe that the worlds top leaders sit around and conspire have got it wrong and we should all rest assured that we have nothing to worry about, and that our children are going to grow up into a world of promise? Should we trust our 'leaders' and brush aside any thoughts we have that they would plot against us to further their own ends? Personally I tend to mould my beliefs on the actions of these people and not their words. The socially awkward bit is half correct. I can go out and hang with any guy I've never met before in the pub, piece of piss, but sometimes I might sit there in a world of me own and look like I'm 'socially awkward' But the reason is that the shite they talkin about is old hat and I did it all when I was 9-15 so I'd rather just sit their with me thoughts and chill out. Psychology really is a load of bollox apart from in extreme cases
Finnegan Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 Is now a good time to mention the Bermuda Triangle? LIZARDMEN RULE THE EARTH!!!
shen Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 Not too interested in the antics of the likes of Tiger myself . I'd say the vast majority of conspiracy theory is utter bollox , and it makes me wonder if most of it is put about to muddy the waters of the serious stuff . But i'm pretty certain that all in he world is not as it is portrayed For instance if you are interested in say the JFK assassination ( a great place to start ) , read stuff by the likes of Gary Mack Fletcher Prouty or Cyril Wecht , they cannot be dismissed as lunatics . a good understanding of the events surrounding the death of JFK and the subsequent events that followed gives an ideal platform to make a lot of the other stuff make more sense All the best if you do decide to get on the slippery slope Of course it isn't, and in some of the famous cases named in previous posts, you can be certain that influential and opportunist people have had a hand in them. I don't think Finnegan meant to come across as THAT naïve, but rather points the finger towards people that spout out the most ludicrous stuff. Re: the Tiger saga, I think it's very obvious that there's much more than meets the eye, and as long as there are doubts regarding his whereabouts, the events of the night in question and the motives of the persons involved, I think it's justified that people ask questions.
Radovan's Caravan Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 Anyway, where's that Tiger Woods. I have no idea. I might have some ideas about what happened to him though I believe he's exercising Shergar whilst he waits for Elvis to finish in the bathroom. The official accounts of what happened to Woods in the early hours of 27th November and the 'explanations' given for Woods' subsequent disappearance are no less outlandish than the scenario's in your little joke. The one feature all these 'reports' share is that they assume that Woods is still alive - do you believe this? Not too interested in the antics of the likes of Tiger myself . I'd say the vast majority of conspiracy theory is utter bollox , and it makes me wonder if most of it is put about to muddy the waters of the serious stuff . For instance if you are interested in say the JFK assassination ( a great place to start ) , read stuff by the likes of Gary Mack Fletcher Prouty or Cyril Wecht , they cannot be dismissed as lunatics . a good understanding of the events surrounding the death of JFK and the subsequent events that followed gives an ideal platform to make a lot of the other stuff make more sense 1) You should be - political conspiracies are driven by similar interests. 2) Correct, it is all disinformation - you can't even rely on the raw data. 3) Don't. They too are sophisticated disinformationists. 4) I disagree. The starting point for unpicking all conspiracy theories in the modern era (post French Revolution) is understanding British global interests, particularly Anglo American rivalry for the control of supply (and price) of commodities. Here Britain is the dominant player and remains the world's only true independent nation state
Fosse Boy Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 I have no idea. I might have some ideas about what happened to him though Do divulge...
Finnegan Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 Of course it isn't, and in some of the famous cases named in previous posts, you can be certain that influential and opportunist people have had a hand in them. I don't think Finnegan meant to come across as THAT naïve, but rather points the finger towards people that spout out the most ludicrous stuff. Re: the Tiger saga, I think it's very obvious that there's much more than meets the eye, and as long as there are doubts regarding his whereabouts, the events of the night in question and the motives of the persons involved, I think it's justified that people ask questions. Indeed. I question almost everything I'm told, especially it came from a "popular" news source. I'm just not an overly suspicious twat that thinks George Bush is an alien, the Lizard Illuminati rule the Earth or that Dan Brown is a non-fiction writer.
BoneDog Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 But sometimes bullshit can be such a rich source of entertainment. I can relate to that Now and then I'm prone to posting a little bullshine in the hope that it pleases someone for a moment or two!
BoneDog Posted 4 January 2010 Posted 4 January 2010 I'd say the vast majority of conspiracy theory is utter bollox , and it makes me wonder if most of it is put about to muddy the waters of the serious stuff .But i'm pretty certain that all in he world is not as it is portrayed Definately true. Intelligence agencies will be busying themselves with spreading false truths in many areas.
BoneDog Posted 5 January 2010 Posted 5 January 2010 I'm just not an overly suspicious twat that thinks George Bush is an alien, the Lizard Illuminati rule the Earth or that Dan Brown is a non-fiction writer. Yeah but who is? I don't know anyone who thinks any of those things. Brown is only writing about stuff he has been asked to write about, just like Orwell and others. The books they wrote would of come out whether those authors wrote them or not. Maybe in a slightly different fashion but the story would of been the same cos someone paid them to write the books.
AoWW Posted 5 January 2010 Posted 5 January 2010 Yeah but who is? I don't know anyone who thinks any of those things. Oh.
Radovan's Caravan Posted 5 January 2010 Posted 5 January 2010 Indeed. I question almost everything I'm told, especially it came from a "popular" news source. I'm just not an overly suspicious twat that thinks George Bush is an alien, the Lizard Illuminati rule the Earth or that Dan Brown is a non-fiction writer. There is nothing in your posts on this thread to suggest that you believe anything other than the utter drivel that has been put out by the popular press on Tiger Woods in recent weeks. In fact, the main purpose of everything that you have posted to date on this subject has been designed to suppress critical analysis of the appalling media coverage of this issue through innuendo (that I am an Ickean) or nihilsm (there's not much call for my thoughts on this subject). Problem for you now Finners is that a number of posters can clearly see that I have flagged up a lot of discrepancies in the way that the Woods saga has been covered and are very curious to see where I might be going with this. So, faced with this tidal wave of sentiment you bravely change your tune and come over all deconstructionist. Well here's your chance to nail your colours to the mast you rugged individualistic thinker you. On the evidence that I have submitted thus far do you not agree that I have reasonable grounds to doubt that: (I) Tiger Woods had a car accident on the 27th November last? (II) his wife Elin assaulted him with a golf club? (III) in this hi tech age a person as wealthy and famous as Woods could voluntarily disappear and remain 100% incommunicado for over a month? No cheating or evasion now - just answer the questions so we all know what you really feel about popular news sources when the chips are down. Because something tells me that you are secretly a fully paid up, card carrying member of the great unwashed...
Steven Posted 5 January 2010 Posted 5 January 2010 I read this fantastic article on the sort of fringe-of-society losers who buy into conspiracy theories because they struggle to identify or fit in with most people.It always makes me grin when you see some unhinged, socially awkward goon babble off about this or that mumbo jumbo and kind of prove it all right. http://www.newworldorderreport.com/Article...hould-Know.aspx
skinnydipper Posted 5 January 2010 Posted 5 January 2010 I believe he's exercising Shergar whilst he waits for Elvis to finish in the bathroom. I thought you'd gone missing in The White Book Aka the Bermuda Triangle of legal text
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