Edmund Posted 5 January 2010 Posted 5 January 2010 If all or most of the clubs lose money on the TV deal why do they vote it in? My thoughts exactly.
Ford Super Sunday Posted 5 January 2010 Posted 5 January 2010 Every club in the CCC received £2.5m at the start of the season for the television rights in this current contract. The last time I heard, which was a few years ago. Matchday fees were £50k for home clubs and £10k for away clubs. Now, a drop of 1,000 people are average £20 a ticket (give or take the prices) is £20k, a drop of 5,000 (as previously mentioned) is £100k. And that's just the ticket prices. You add the concourse, programme, merchendise sales, you're talking a fair buck for certain games. I personally can't see matchday fees being much more than what they were a few years ago. From what I read in the past, the average Premier League club received around £250k for live coverage on Sky, so 1/5 of that is about right.
Guest Posted 5 January 2010 Posted 5 January 2010 So translated into English - You don't know No, translated into "Jehst" it's "hur, hur, she don't know, uvverwise she would say". What it actually means is something completely different, and if you need me to tell you, you are thicker than I gave you credit for. You're the one who quotes me. Am I not suppose to reply to you're posts. The last time I checked this was a discussion board yet when you're out of your grasp you turn to petty insults. It's quite funny. Believe me, I could be a lot more insulting. If I wanted to. Like you said, it's a discussion board, and if youpost something that's been discussed before, and someone else picks up on it, then expect to be quoted. It's your[//i] reaction to this that is laughable, because if it had been someone like Bert who had posted it, you wouldn't get so argumentative. As for the clubs voting for it, I understand that it was the Football League who agreed the deal. I wasn't actually at the meeting, so I do apologise for not having any video evidence to back that up.
Webbo Posted 5 January 2010 Posted 5 January 2010 As for the clubs voting for it, I understand that it was the Football League who agreed the deal. I wasn't actually at the meeting, so I do apologise for not having any video evidence to back that up. I'm not having a go at you Lisa. It was a genuine question. I just don't understand why clubs or the FL would do something which against their own interests.
CosbehFox Posted 5 January 2010 Posted 5 January 2010 If all or most of the clubs lose money on the TV deal why do they vote it in? The PL defo make money off the TV deal but the FL deal I suppose it's the immediate sum of money which they receive.
Guest Posted 5 January 2010 Posted 5 January 2010 I'm not having a go at you Lisa. It was a genuine question. I just don't understand why clubs or the FL would do something which against their own interests. I know you weren't. I guess that the powers that be want to make as much money as they can out of any deal, and any money is better than none. Besides, the public want to see PL football, which is why it gets the higher payouts. The payouts given lower down the league ladders is disgusting when compared to the money higher up. I would like to see a day when football isn't about money, but about the game, but that's apparently a nostalgic and outdated view, according to some.
Edmund Posted 5 January 2010 Posted 5 January 2010 Like you said, it's a discussion board, and if youpost something that's been discussed before, and someone else picks up on it, then expect to be quoted. It's your[//i] reaction to this that is laughable, because if it had been someone like Bert who had posted it, you wouldn't get so argumentative. I've not got a problem with being quoted, it's just I don't buy this I react differently to your posts malarky. I've had plenty of arguments since I've been here, why you think it's solely you is just bizarre. Like I said before I just reply to posts when something I've discussed has been elaborated on. That's what happens on discussion boards. Maybe you've just met your match in terms of stubbornness.
Jimmy Posted 5 January 2010 Posted 5 January 2010 But you can't make bold statements such as :without any substance. Am i suppose to just take your word as gospel? Bollocks. or you could stop being a retard and remember the Premier League is the richest league in the world. Why do you think aso many ex-prem sides are in the shiot finacially, cus the money you make even 1 league down is so vastly reduced But it's impossible to decipher without knowing how much of that £23 is actual profit. Also you have revenue such as food, drink, programmes to take into consideration. Hence nobody knows the club doesn't make money off food & drink that's handled by an outside catering company, how many people do you see buying programs, around me there's 1 or 2 hardly any at all... look at boxing day for example normally 1 of our biggest gates of the season practically always around the 30,000 mark since we moved this year we got 23,999 a loss of around 4000 and that was boxing day, imagine when we're playing someone like Ipswich say, on a monday night the drop in attendance would be bigger. And what you forgot to take into account is the cost of stewarding the game and also the cost of policing it, which the club gets charged for
Edmund Posted 5 January 2010 Posted 5 January 2010 or you could stop being a retard and remember the Premier League is the richest league in the world. Why do you think aso many ex-prem sides are in the shiot finacially, cus the money you make even 1 league down is so vastly reduced Oh dear, more irrelevant dribble. I know that's the case but it still doesn't mean that clubs below the prem lose more money on televised matches. Obviously the prem generates more tv money hence why wages are much higher. The fact is championship clubs and below don't pay wages anywhere near what those of the prem do. And those that come down have parachute payments to help. Clubs obviously cater to their financial level. the club doesn't make money off food & drink that's handled by an outside catering company, how many people do you see buying programs, around me there's 1 or 2 hardly any at all...look at boxing day for example normally 1 of our biggest gates of the season practically always around the 30,000 mark since we moved this year we got 23,999 a loss of around 4000 and that was boxing day, imagine when we're playing someone like Ipswich say, on a monday night the drop in attendance would be bigger. And what you forgot to take into account is the cost of stewarding the game and also the cost of policing it, which the club gets charged for But surely less people = less stewarding, less police etc. It's all kept in relative comparison. At the end of the day were going round in circles and I'm getting bored now. No one has a 'proper' answer so all were doing is speculating. 2 pages on and I'm still non the wiser.
AmericanScott Posted 5 January 2010 Posted 5 January 2010 Oh dear, more irrelevant dribble.I know that's the case but it still doesn't mean that clubs below the prem lose more money on televised matches. Obviously the prem generates more tv money hence why wages are much higher. The fact is championship clubs and below don't pay wages anywhere near what those of the prem do. And those that come down have parachute payments to help. Clubs obviously cater to their financial level. But surely less people = less stewarding, less police etc. It's all kept in relative comparison. At the end of the day were going round in circles and I'm getting bored now. No one has a 'proper' answer so all were doing is speculating. 2 pages on and I'm still non the wiser. Instead of acting like a twat, why don't you do some research yourself?
davieG Posted 6 January 2010 Author Posted 6 January 2010 Cov game confirmed but no mention of the Reading move. OS Millions more football fans will now be able to watch Leicester City's home game against local rivals Coventry City. The Walkers Stadium clash, originally scheduled to take place on Saturday 20th March will now take place on Sunday 21st March, kicking off at 2pm in front of the BBC TV cameras. The Foxes beat Coventry 3-0 the last time the two sides faced each other live on TV at the Walkers Stadium. Craig Levein's first home game in charge saw Lillian Nalis, Danny Tiatto and Matt Heath score the goals to see off their M69 neighbours.
Ford Super Sunday Posted 6 January 2010 Posted 6 January 2010 Cov game confirmed but no mention of the Reading move.OS Millions more football fans will now be able to watch Leicester City's home game against local rivals Coventry City. The Walkers Stadium clash, originally scheduled to take place on Saturday 20th March will now take place on Sunday 21st March, kicking off at 2pm in front of the BBC TV cameras. The Foxes beat Coventry 3-0 the last time the two sides faced each other live on TV at the Walkers Stadium. Craig Levein's first home game in charge saw Lillian Nalis, Danny Tiatto and Matt Heath score the goals to see off their M69 neighbours. Oh my word, an ERROR FREE article on the OS Bring on the BBC, cannot wait to perform in front of 14 1.4 million people, and millions more worldwide
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