Mike the Metal Ed Posted 3 June 2010 Posted 3 June 2010 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jun/03/north-korea-world-cup-goalkeeper-gamble North Korea have been told by Fifa that Kim Myong-won will only be able to play as a goalkeeper in the World Cup and not in his usual role as a striker. The North Korean coach, Kim Jong-hun decided to name only two regular goalkeepers in his squad with Kim, who plays for Amrokgang, as the back-up. It was seen as an attempt to boost the nation's attacking options as they prepare to face Brazil, Ivory Coast and Portugal in Group G. However, the move has backfired spectacularly after Fifa confirmed that Kim will only be allowed to play as a goalkeeper, not as an outfield player. Unless there is an injury, no changes will be permitted to their final squad. In a statement, world football's governing body said: "The squad lists that the teams had provided to Fifa by 1 June 2010 are final and can no longer be changed. On the final lists must be no more than 23 players, three of whom shall be goalkeepers. "The only exception is in the case of a serious injury of a player in the list of 23, who could be replaced up until 24 hours before the first match of the team in the competition. "The three players listed as goalkeepers can only play as goalkeepers during the World Cup and cannot play outfield. This will be communicated to the teams in the team arrival meetings and will be enforced on match days." The statement added: "Kim Myong-won will not be allowed to play as an outfield player if he has been put on the list as a goalkeeper."
Smiffy Posted 3 June 2010 Posted 3 June 2010 I'm guessing its just a matter of time until one of their fringe players comes up injured and then Kim Myong-won will be moved in to replace him and an extra keeper will be added. They'll find a way around it.
davieG Posted 3 June 2010 Posted 3 June 2010 I'm guessing its just a matter of time until one of their fringe players comes up injured and then Kim Myong-won will be moved in to replace him and an extra keeper will be added. They'll find a way around it. If they do what you suggest they'll hardly be finding a way round it they'll be back to what they should have done in the beginning so FIFA's approach will have worked.
Smiffy Posted 3 June 2010 Posted 3 June 2010 If they do what you suggest they'll hardly be finding a way round it they'll be back to what they should have done in the beginning so FIFA's approach will have worked. I agree thats what they should've done, but what I'm saying is they'll find a way around FIFA saying they can no longer change it.
shen Posted 3 June 2010 Posted 3 June 2010 I'm guessing its just a matter of time until one of their fringe players comes up injured and then Kim Myong-won will be moved in to replace him and an extra keeper will be added. They'll find a way around it. Actually they might be worse off. As Myong-won is already registered (as a goalkeeper) they will have to replace a potential injury with a non-registered outfield player. But do FIFA rules state that you can't play with TWO goalkeepers at a time...?
ozleicester Posted 4 June 2010 Posted 4 June 2010 Was it in that Sylvester Stallone movie that the goal keeper had his arm broken "for the good of the team"? We should start a poll on what day a player will suffer a serious injury .. guarantee it will happen
Edmund Posted 4 June 2010 Posted 4 June 2010 It was seen as an attempt to boost the nation's attacking options as they prepare to face Brazil, Ivory Coast and Portugal in Group G. Surely they'd be better off with 11 defenders I still think it's harsh that the nation wont be able to watch their games on tv unless they win and even then it's looking like that wont happen as South Korea wont give them the feed anymore. I doubt their countrymen are even aware that there's a world cup going on.
BoneDog Posted 4 June 2010 Posted 4 June 2010 Surely they'd be better off with 11 defenders I still think it's harsh that the nation wont be able to watch their games on tv unless they win and even then it's looking like that wont happen as South Korea wont give them the feed anymore. I doubt their countrymen are even aware that there's a world cup going on. I reckon they are aware of it cos I'm sure they have quite alot of football over there. Not sure how many teams they have got in their leagues or how much of the population get the chance to play football but I reckon they must be talking about the World Cup. I feel sorry for them for not getting the chance to watch though. What a ridiculous president to not let your population watch the World Cup. He deserves toppling in a coup just for that, never mind all his other faults! I think this rule is unfair by Fifa and if a team wants to risk not having enough keepers that should be their decision. Also if I was a manager and my sub keeper was a great penalty taker then I might want to bring him on for a defender in the last minute of extra time when it was about to go to penalties! And Fifa say I couldn't do that? Winkers
shen Posted 4 June 2010 Posted 4 June 2010 Surely they'd be better off with 11 defenders I still think it's harsh that the nation wont be able to watch their games on tv unless they win and even then it's looking like that wont happen as South Korea wont give them the feed anymore. I doubt their countrymen are even aware that there's a world cup going on. After two qualifying legs against their brothers south of the border? I think they know there's a World Cup going on!!
poopbutt Posted 5 June 2010 Posted 5 June 2010 After two qualifying legs against their brothers south of the border? I think they know there's a World Cup going on!! crouchback makes some stupid comments doesn't he. north korea on the world stage...i think kim will be letting everyone know about that
AyewJoking Posted 5 June 2010 Posted 5 June 2010 Would have been more noteworthy were it a top team doing this but North Korea wtf! I say let them take as many players as they want, they're all sh*t!
Guest Bilo Posted 5 June 2010 Posted 5 June 2010 Let's be honest, a team ranked 116th in the world would have struggled in any group in the World Cup but against Brazil, Portugal and the Ivory Coast anything other than total humiliation would be an achievement. It would be no surprise if they went home having conceded 10 or more goals without reply.
shen Posted 5 June 2010 Posted 5 June 2010 Would have been more noteworthy were it a top team doing this but North Korea wtf! I say let them take as many players as they want, they're all sh*t! Let's be honest, a team ranked 116th in the world would have struggled in any group in the World Cup but against Brazil, Portugal and the Ivory Coast anything other than total humiliation would be an achievement. It would be no surprise if they went home having conceded 10 or more goals without reply. Have either of you actually seen North Korea play?
Guest Bilo Posted 5 June 2010 Posted 5 June 2010 Have either of you actually seen North Korea play? 116th in the world, only two players in Europe for a mediocre Russian outfit and a failure to keep a clean sheet against Mongolia in qualifying hardly bodes well in this company.
Unit Posted 5 June 2010 Posted 5 June 2010 Is it true that Kim Jong "SO RONERY" Il is not going to broadcast the world cup unless they win?
Edmund Posted 5 June 2010 Posted 5 June 2010 After two qualifying legs against their brothers south of the border? I think they know there's a World Cup going on!! You obviously don't know how North Korea is run. State television is all run by Kim Jong. All outside news/media is completely cut off from the country. I'm even sure Jong chooses exactly who can support the national team i.e. people in higher social ranks. Any information that is released to the nation regarding the team in the world cup is being used as propaganda. I can't be arsed to find links but google is your friend.
shen Posted 5 June 2010 Posted 5 June 2010 116th in the world, only two players in Europe for a mediocre Russian outfit and a failure to keep a clean sheet against Mongolia in qualifying hardly bodes well in this company. So that's a "no" then... Here a couple of goals from their most recent match against Greece. Terrible goal Terrible goal 2
shen Posted 5 June 2010 Posted 5 June 2010 You obviously don't know how North Korea is run. State television is all run by Kim Jong. All outside news/media is completely cut off from the country. I'm even sure Jong chooses exactly who can support the national team i.e. people in higher social ranks. Any information that is released to the nation regarding the team in the world cup is being used as propaganda. I can't be arsed to find links but google is your friend. Well no, very few do I suppose. But it's very difficult to hide a historic qualifying match between the two teams in PYONGYANG! You can do quite a lot to control and hide things from the public eye, but I would find it highly improbable if the existance and result of that match didn't slip through the net. It's a bit naïve to think that North Koreans are blind idiots...
Edmund Posted 5 June 2010 Posted 5 June 2010 Well no, very few do I suppose. But it's very difficult to hide a historic qualifying match between the two teams in PYONGYANG! You can do quite a lot to control and hide things from the public eye, but I would find it highly improbable if the existance and result of that match didn't slip through the net. It's a bit naïve to think that North Koreans are blind idiots... It's not naive at all. There's a few interesting documentaries on the subject which show exactly how the country is run. North Korea is state run and the population is brainwashed. The match between the two nations would've been kept low key as a loss against their neighbours would be seen as a political defeat by the leaders of North Korea. The only people who would've been able to watch the match are state officials, high ranked officials etc. The majority of the nation is under nourished and is living in poverty while the state officials etc are well fed and giving the luxury of going to sporting events. This is done purposely as the North Koreans know that it'll be broadcasted across the world and want to give the impression that their nation has no problems. There's an interesting documentary on North Korea on google video/youtube and it touches on sporting events. If you think Jong gives a shit about his people you're deluded. The guy lives in multi millions whilst his nation is starved. Football, especially the world cup will only be used as propaganda and in political interests. They've already said to South Korea that they will only want a feed of the games if they win which is highly unlikely as they're a pretty poor side, so do you think they will tell the whole nation that their competing in a tournament and then starve them of footage. Of course not. Their would be unrest as people would want to know the results. People will only know which matches they are playing if they win. I bet they don't even know whose in their group yet alone how a world cup works. They wont know who Ronaldo is, or who past winners of the world cup is. They don't have google or any media outlets except state run propaganda. You've got to get out your bubble and change the script. North Korea is the only country closed off from the whole of the world. It's not as if they can just whip on ssnews for the latest info.
The Doctor Posted 5 June 2010 Posted 5 June 2010 It's not naive at all. There's a few interesting documentaries on the subject which show exactly how the country is run. North Korea is state run and the population is brainwashed. The match between the two nations would've been kept low key as a loss against their neighbours would be seen as a political defeat by the leaders of North Korea. The only people who would've been able to watch the match are state officials, high ranked officials etc. The majority of the nation is under nourished and is living in poverty while the state officials etc are well fed and giving the luxury of going to sporting events. This is done purposely as the North Koreans know that it'll be broadcasted across the world and want to give the impression that their nation has no problems. There's an interesting documentary on North Korea on google video/youtube and it touches on sporting events. If you think Jong gives a shit about his people you're deluded. The guy lives in multi millions whilst his nation is starved. Football, especially the world cup will only be used as propaganda and in political interests. They've already said to South Korea that they will only want a feed of the games if they win which is highly unlikely as they're a pretty poor side, so do you think they will tell the whole nation that their competing in a tournament and then starve them of footage. Of course not. Their would be unrest as people would want to know the results. People will only know which matches they are playing if they win. I bet they don't even know whose in their group yet alone how a world cup works. They wont know who Ronaldo is, or who past winners of the world cup is. They don't have google or any media outlets except state run propaganda. You've got to get out your bubble and change the script. North Korea is the only country closed off from the whole of the world. It's not as if they can just whip on ssnews for the latest info. and yet after beating South Korea Kim Jong Il would have most likely released this info to the public as it could be taken as meaning North Korea is more powerful than South Korea - something he'd no doubt want to emphasise. They'll be aware of the world cup, Whether they'll see anything of it however...
lavrentis Posted 5 June 2010 Posted 5 June 2010 and yet after beating South Korea Kim Jong Il would have most likely released this info to the public as it could be taken as meaning North Korea is more powerful than South Korea - something he'd no doubt want to emphasise. They'll be aware of the world cup, Whether they'll see anything of it however... To be honest, I doubt most of the population would be aware of football let alone the World Cup as those not privileged to live in Pyongyang probably don't have electricity. (See the world at night image here Its sad that the people of North Korea can't see coverage of the world cup but I imagine even as brainwashed people it's the least of their worries
Guest Bilo Posted 5 June 2010 Posted 5 June 2010 Well no, very few do I suppose. But it's very difficult to hide a historic qualifying match between the two teams in PYONGYANG! You can do quite a lot to control and hide things from the public eye, but I would find it highly improbable if the existance and result of that match didn't slip through the net. It's a bit naïve to think that North Koreans are blind idiots... It wasn't played in Pyongyang so far as I'm aware. The North Korean regime refused to allow the South Korean flag and anthem inside the stadium, so the match was moved to a neutral venue, Shanghai I believe.
BoneDog Posted 5 June 2010 Posted 5 June 2010 I'm not so sure that the population of North Korea are brainwashed, I'd think that they are just kept in the dark about everything that's going on in the outside world. They have a lack of information we are led to believe but I would think that it is not easy to brainwash a population without everyone having TV's and radios in their house. The Western world however are very easy to brainwash
Edmund Posted 5 June 2010 Posted 5 June 2010 I'm not so sure that the population of North Korea are brainwashed This video shows some civilians receiving basic medication to remove cataracts and they thank Jong for it even though the reason why they've got them in the first place is lack of basic medication because Jong refuses to receive aid.
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