Miltonfox Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 Why has Pearson spoken out now? It is because his return to the Walkers will be a very emotional occasion for him. His time here was the most successful and enjoyable period of his managerial career and he knew the fans valued him. He restored our pride in the club. He is not trying to score points before the match; he is letting the Leicester fans know that he really wanted to stay and that he resigned because it was clear that the club did not value him and he thought that he was likely to lose his job if he did not move to Hull. I believe him to be an honest and straightforward individual. I will certainly be applauding his return, whilst cheering on our team and hoping we win by the largest margin possible. I know his tenure as manager is now history. I welcome the appointment of Sven, whose vast experience and contacts can only be beneficial. However, Pearson - despite his lack of an international reputation - is the one since MO’N who has set the Leicester managerial bar at the highest level. I hope Sven and the owners’ money will see us return to the premier league; it is possible. But I do feel for Pearson. His return will be more difficult for him than the fans. Call me sentimental! Meanwhile the future is yet to come. Absolutly spot on mate! Great post! I think he just confirmed what most o us already new. I for one will be applauding one of our most successful managers of the past, and giving all my support to hopefully the next successful manager of the future.
dandannieldanok Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 Why has Pearson spoken out now? It is because his return to the Walkers will be a very emotional occasion for him. His time here was the most successful and enjoyable period of his managerial career and he knew the fans valued him. He restored our pride in the club. He is not trying to score points before the match; he is letting the Leicester fans know that he really wanted to stay and that he resigned because it was clear that the club did not value him and he thought that he was likely to lose his job if he did not move to Hull. I believe him to be an honest and straightforward individual. I will certainly be applauding his return, whilst cheering on our team and hoping we win by the largest margin possible. I know his tenure as manager is now history. I welcome the appointment of Sven, whose vast experience and contacts can only be beneficial. However, Pearson - despite his lack of an international reputation - is the one since MO’N who has set the Leicester managerial bar at the highest level. I hope Sven and the owners’ money will see us return to the premier league; it is possible. But I do feel for Pearson. His return will be more difficult for him than the fans. Call me sentimental! Meanwhile the future is yet to come. Listen again....he doesn't say that.
bluefox9er Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 i think there was some clause sayin he couldnt speak out whilst Sousa is in charge? Or it could be that Pearson didn't want to say anything whilst Sousa is in charge, he is a pretty decent bloke. +1. agree.
unreachable Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 Why has Pearson spoken out now? It is because his return to the Walkers will be a very emotional occasion for him. His time here was the most successful and enjoyable period of his managerial career and he knew the fans valued him. He restored our pride in the club. He is not trying to score points before the match; he is letting the Leicester fans know that he really wanted to stay and that he resigned because it was clear that the club did not value him and he thought that he was likely to lose his job if he did not move to Hull. I believe him to be an honest and straightforward individual. I will certainly be applauding his return, whilst cheering on our team and hoping we win by the largest margin possible. I know his tenure as manager is now history. I welcome the appointment of Sven, whose vast experience and contacts can only be beneficial. However, Pearson - despite his lack of an international reputation - is the one since MO’N who has set the Leicester managerial bar at the highest level. I hope Sven and the owners’ money will see us return to the premier league; it is possible. But I do feel for Pearson. His return will be more difficult for him than the fans. Call me sentimental! Meanwhile the future is yet to come. Sorry but I don't buy that interpretation of events. Why should the club not have valued him after his record on the pitch? It doesn't make sense. For all you and I know he may have been greedy and wanted a more lucrative contract than MM was prepared to finance. He may have been stalling on a new contract until a bigger club came after him and MM simply lost patience with him for not signing a new contract. Who knows. I don't. Also, what has Lee Hoos supposed to have done wrong? Lots of people fall out in business and don't see eye-to-eye so why does that make Pearson right and Lee Hoos wrong?
Salieri Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 Sorry but I don't buy that interpretation of events. Why should the club not have valued him after his record on the pitch? It doesn't make sense. For all you and I know he may have been greedy and wanted a more lucrative contract than MM was prepared to finance. He may have been stalling on a new contract until a bigger club came after him and MM simply lost patience with him for not signing a new contract. Who knows. I don't. Also, what has Lee Hoos supposed to have done wrong? Lots of people fall out in business and don't see eye-to-eye so why does that make Pearson right and Lee Hoos wrong? I think you're just trying to play devils advocate mate, and fair play to you. I think deep down though, you understand what went on.
bluefox9er Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 Why has Pearson spoken out now? It is because his return to the Walkers will be a very emotional occasion for him. His time here was the most successful and enjoyable period of his managerial career and he knew the fans valued him. He restored our pride in the club. He is not trying to score points before the match; he is letting the Leicester fans know that he really wanted to stay and that he resigned because it was clear that the club did not value him and he thought that he was likely to lose his job if he did not move to Hull. I believe him to be an honest and straightforward individual. I will certainly be applauding his return, whilst cheering on our team and hoping we win by the largest margin possible. I know his tenure as manager is now history. I welcome the appointment of Sven, whose vast experience and contacts can only be beneficial. However, Pearson - despite his lack of an international reputation - is the one since MO’N who has set the Leicester managerial bar at the highest level. I hope Sven and the owners’ money will see us return to the premier league; it is possible. But I do feel for Pearson. His return will be more difficult for him than the fans. Call me sentimental! Meanwhile the future is yet to come. very well constructed and totally spot on. I couldn't believe my ears when i heard NP speak...how on earth could MM not wish to keep NP at this club after everything he put into it? Clearly the problem is MM, not NP. Just put yourself in NP's shoes..how would you feel if you saw Sousa being entertained by MM and the Asian mafia before the play off semi-final? I personally think NP deserved a hell of a lot more than LCFC's front office gave him. he was treated like shit and I for one will also applaud loudly for NP when he returns. Everyhting he has done to restore stability and respect to our club has been subsequently turned into a cluster fook by MM. Our club is a laughing stock, and does anyone REALLY believe SGE is going to stick around more than 3-6 months max before he gets bored? NP and Sousa both got the really shitty end of the MM stick.
unreachable Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 I think you're just trying to play devils advocate mate, and fair play to you. I think deep down though, you understand what went on. I just find it too bizarre for a successful manager to be ousted on purpose. Webbo agreed with my first post so I'm not on my own. If Pearson, Lee Hoos and Manderic would discuss it face to face on camera then that would be interesting. Some people have a low threshold for believing things.
bluefox9er Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 In my opinion, I think Milan Mandaric was going to sack him after he failed to get us promoted, but when Hull City came in for him he allowed them to talk to him, knowing he'd go to them and he wouldn't have to pay any compensation. !
Salieri Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 I just find it too bizarre for a successful manager to be ousted on purpose. Webbo agreed with my first post so I'm not on my own. If Pearson, Lee Hoos and Manderic would discuss it face to face on camera then that would be interesting. Some people have a low threshold for believing things. If Pearson had been lured away to the Premier League instead of Hull then maybe I would entertain other theories, I think it was a case of any port in a storm. For whatever reason, I can only presume it was to make us 'more attractive' to potential owners, Pearson's face didn't fit. Sousa, invited to attend our Play Off match (why?) he obviously held a more acceptable (marketable) international pedigree. Mandaric, for me, did not see Pearson as a long term manager despite the success he had achieved. He may have offered him a new contract but i'm sure it would have been an insulting one, with little assurances about future transfer budgets. Yes it's all heresay, but you have to ask yourself why Pearson would jump ship from a team (that he had built) pushing for a place in the Prem to a club on a downward spiral, with severe financial problems like Hull? It doesn't add up.
bluefox9er Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 I still don’t believe that we have heard the definitive version of why Pearson left. Pearson’s stock was high and he may have felt that MM would not invest sufficiently to sustain the club’s high league position and his own high reputation. Life is full of lost opportunities and NP may have felt that Hull gave him the best opportunity in the short term. He must have known that a takeover or incoming investment was being sought – we as fans certainly did. MM and NP were negotiating a new contract during the course of the season and for whatever reason one was not signed. A lot has been made of Leicester giving him permission to speak to Hull but MM may have gone as far as he could have done in his contractual negotiations and NP would have walked into the arms of whomsoever offered enough money and future prospects to him. The coincidence of NP’s interview today before we play Hull City next time may be significant. NP will use the media when it suits him to ensure a good reception from Leicester fans and to take the spotlight away from him and onto his new team. The fact remains that NP was under contract and was not sacked. He resigned. For fans pressing their noses against the windows of the club and taking titbits from here and there to claim they know the truth is something I don’t understand. Set up a judicial inquiry with QCs interrogating all relevant parties under oath and we might get a bit closer! It’s always interesting to speculate but that’s about as far it goes in my opinion. Before I will agree that something is a fact I need a very high burden of proof to be met. Surely NP had no option to resign because through no fault of his own, his position as manager became untenable literally over night?? I wish NP every success at Hull ( apart from when they play us) and even more success at leveraging he media to his benefit. What MM and LCFC did to NP is simply disgusting.
Babylon Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 So so sad to listen to. Why do it know though, to put the record straight or to save your new job!!!
Salieri Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 So so sad to listen to. Why do it know though, to put the record straight or to save your new job!!! Who knows? But I think deciding to speak out now rather than whilst Sousa was still in charge may be the reason. It saddens me more that some people are being so negative towards a man who did such a sterling job during a very difficult period in our history.
unreachable Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 If Pearson had been lured away to the Premier League instead of Hull then maybe I would entertain other theories, I think it was a case of any port in a storm. For whatever reason, I can only presume it was to make us 'more attractive' to potential owners, Pearson's face didn't fit. Sousa, invited to attend our Play Off match (why?) he obviously held a more acceptable (marketable) international pedigree. Mandaric, for me, did not see Pearson as a long term manager despite the success he had achieved. He may have offered him a new contract but i'm sure it would have been an insulting one, with little assurances about future transfer budgets. Yes it's all heresay, but you have to ask yourself why Pearson would jump ship from a team (that he had built) pushing for a place in the Prem to a club on a downward spiral, with severe financial problems like Hull? It doesn't add up. Do you think that Sousa's "international pedigree" outweighs NP's practical performance as manager? Doubtful at the very least. I'm more concerned with domestic football so was fairly ignorant about Sousa I must admit. Talking about "adding up" do we know what salary and terms Pearson is now on and how it compares with his Leicester deal? Most people have their price and "money talks" so perhaps Pearson preferred the money and more certainty in the short term at Hull knowing that their was a change of ownership in the air at Leicester. As for the new owners being shown around while he was on holiday. That's a strange issue for NP to get upset about. They could have met him when he was back from holiday. Why did NP think it mattered?
Babylon Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 Who knows? But I think deciding to speak out now rather than whilst Sousa was still in charge may be the reason. It saddens me more that some people are being so negative towards a man who did such a sterling job during a very difficult period in our history. If I could type without pain.... (long story) then i'd say more, but it's such a sad turn of events. NP will always be loved, but this is a new dawn and we should look forward. Even though a few broken bones may hurt for a while.
Babylon Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 There are always two sides to a story. Wish someone would tell mine, because I'm in bloody pain.
davieG Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 Do you think that Sousa's "international pedigree" outweighs NP's practical performance as manager? Doubtful at the very least. I'm more concerned with domestic football so was fairly ignorant about Sousa I must admit. Talking about "adding up" do we know what salary and terms Pearson is now on and how it compares with his Leicester deal? Most people have their price and "money talks" so perhaps Pearson preferred the money and more certainty in the short term at Hull knowing that their was a change of ownership in the air at Leicester. As for the new owners being shown around while he was on holiday. That's a strange issue for NP to get upset about. They could have met him when he was back from holiday. Why did NP think it mattered? So you're prepared to surmise that Pearson went for the money and is lying and lacks integrity but are not prepared to consider even the tiniest criticism of Mandaric. you excuse him at every opportunity never ever being prepared to admit that he is anything other than Mr Honesty. Even I who can't stand the guy has conceded that he's done some good.
Salieri Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 If I could type without pain.... (long story) then i'd say more, but it's such a sad turn of events. NP will always be loved, but this is a new dawn and we should look forward. Even though a few broken bones may hurt for a while. Totally agree. In an ideal world NP would still be manager and we would be pushing on from last season in or around the top 6, stability would be fantastic. There would be harmony around the club and we could be dreaming of a return to the Prem with a manager and a set of players that we have grown to love. However, this is LCFC and not the case of course. I have massive reservations about Sven, not about his managerial record, moreso about his commitment to the club. But we will back him of course, and believe in a new, exciting dawn. Because the alternative doeasn't bear thinking about. Blind optimism is the way forward.
unreachable Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 So you're prepared to surmise that Pearson went for the money and is lying and lacks integrity but are not prepared to consider even the tiniest criticism of Mandaric. you excuse him at every opportunity never ever being prepared to admit that he is anything other than Mr Honesty. Even I who can't stand the guy has conceded that he's done some good. Neither you nor I know the full story that's why I am being dispassionate. Why not have a try yourself.
Salieri Posted 2 October 2010 Posted 2 October 2010 Do you think that Sousa's "international pedigree" outweighs NP's practical performance as manager? When it comes to trying to sell a club to a group of people interested in the money making potential of our club, then yes. Sadly.
Guest Basildon Fox Posted 3 October 2010 Posted 3 October 2010 It confirms what I thought in the first place when he left. Not a particularly nice way to act by MM & LH but sometimes a sacrifice is needed. If it helped to get the new owners in and they can bring far more finance to the club then it had to be done. What's done is done now though. Of course NP deserves a good reception for what he did, but don't forget that the new man should get an even bigger reception. What worries me is that too many people may spend the whole game venting anger towards MM & LH rather than getting behind the team which is pointless as it isn't going to change what has happened.
OzFox Posted 3 October 2010 Posted 3 October 2010 So so sad to listen to. Why do it know though, to put the record straight or to save your new job!!! Possibly because he's just seen Sousa shafted in the same way (Pearson described it as "ironic") And he must find it really galling when he hears Mandaric on the radio saying how hard he tried to keep Pearson at the club, when it's clearly bollocks. He probably wants Mandy and Hoos squirming in their seats in two weeks time and who can blame him?
poopbutt Posted 3 October 2010 Posted 3 October 2010 He resigned because of Hoos. Pearson is a principled man as we knew and was committed to the club as we knew - but he was let down by Hoos (and perhaps MM). He didn't go to Hull for the money or any other reason. I'm sorry we ever doubted you Nige. only ****** would have doubted pearson, so that should be "i"
samuel Posted 3 October 2010 Posted 3 October 2010 Possibly because he's just seen Sousa shafted in the same way (Pearson described it as "ironic") And he must find it really galling when he hears Mandaric on the radio saying how hard he tried to keep Pearson at the club, when it's clearly bollocks. He probably wants Mandy and Hoos squirming in their seats in two weeks time and who can blame him? I was thinking yesterday that it will only be a matter of time before one of the "silenced" managers came out and said something against Mandaric and his stewardship. NP called it Irony, I call it something else.. I suspect any new Manager will only sign after assurances about MM's short term future at the club. There is an age old saying that if it ain't broke don't fix it, clearly not a phrase MM is familiar with, so why any Manager would sign whilst he is at the club, in any capacity, would be beyond me. I have expressed my views on Bumface before, so I will not start again but he has to leave soon. And whether the new "owners" have any integrity remains to be seen, but if they have anything about them, they should try and run the club in the opposite way to the Serbian Cowboy. Whilst that odius creature has a say in LCFC matters, things will never stabilise.
davieG Posted 3 October 2010 Posted 3 October 2010 Neither you nor I know the full story that's why I am being dispassionate. Why not have a try yourself. But you're still prepared to suggest that Pearson is lying and never Mandaric - you're not dispassionate you're as biased towards Mandaric as I'm against but you do it more subtly.
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