Fining Public Bodies...

[davieG]

for mistakes, how does this benefit us? Surely it's just fining the taxpayers!

E.g.

BBC - Full story

A county council that faxed details of a child sex abuse case to a member of the public is to be fined £100,000 for breaching the Data Protection Act.

Hertfordshire County Council is one of two bodies fined by the Information Commissioner - both have apologised.

Sheffield-based A4e was fined £60,000 for losing an unencrypted laptop with the details of thousands of people.

[breadandcheese]

for mistakes, how does this benefit us? Surely it's just fining the taxpayers!

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It always amazes me too. Surely the obvious answer is to just sack the idiot who did it. There can not be much more left to do to qualify as gross misconduct with immediate dismissal.

[Jon the Hat]

In the first case the answer is in fact to sack the person responsible for allowing that kind of info to sent by fax in the first place. If ever their was a case of a mistake waiting to happen this it. Blaming the poor sod who typed in the wrong number really is missing the point. Unless this was not allowed and an individual knowingly broke the rules to send the fax in which case sack them. Suspect not though, sounds typical of a failure in risk management.

[Zingari]

Why are public bodies ( ie. us ) fined heftily when individuals are accused ( usually more often than proved ) of sexual/racial discrimination ?

Surely in these cases the individuals concerned ought to be brought to book not we the taxpayer

[Jon the Hat]

Why are public bodies ( ie. us ) fined heftily when individuals are accused ( usually more often than proved ) of sexual/racial discrimination ?

Surely in these cases the individuals concerned ought to be brought to book not we the taxpayer

The taxpayer thing aside, employers are responsible for making sure their employees are well trained and aware of the law when it comes to things like discrimination among many others. The fine usually occurs when they are unable to show that they provided that training / policy etc to a good standard.

[Zingari]

The taxpayer thing aside, employers are responsible for making sure their employees are well trained and aware of the law when it comes to things like discrimination among many others. The fine usually occurs when they are unable to show that they provided that training / policy etc to a good standard.

ah thanks yes i see that should be the case

but many cases seem to have been just snide remarks by employees towards others and i'd say it was pretty difficult to prove /disproive this behaviour was occurring , and quite often huge sums seem to be payed out to avoid litigation

ps i realise this may seem like daily mail ranting

[Jon the Hat]

ah thanks yes i see that should be the case

but many cases seem to have been just snide remarks by employees towards others and i'd say it was pretty difficult to prove /disproive this behaviour was occurring , and quite often huge sums seem to be payed out to avoid litigation

ps i realise this may seem like daily mail ranting

Dealing with employee tribunals etc is a tricky business. These issues certainly occur a lot more when you have a union influence, as everyone suddenly gets this swathe of legal support to screw cash out of their employers. The anti discrimination bodies then have to seen to "do something".

[Jimmy]

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It always amazes me too. Surely the obvious answer is to just sack the idiot who did it. There can not be much more left to do to qualify as gross misconduct with immediate dismissal.

the unions in public bodies are pretty much the only 1s left that are any good and sacking them would result in a lengthy legal case and huge fees bill, they'd lose and then have to pay compo as well so we'd lose out even more

[Zingari]

Dealing with employee tribunals etc is a tricky business. These issues certainly occur a lot more when you have a union influence, as everyone suddenly gets this swathe of legal support to screw cash out of their employers. The anti discrimination bodies then have to seen to "do something".

indeed , and these short term pacifying measures seemed to have spawned a thriving industry .

but maybe( as is so often stated ) we don't always hear the whole story from the press

[Ultra]

indeed , and these short term pacifying measures seemed to have spawned a thriving industry .

but maybe( as is so often stated ) we don't always hear the whole story from the press

You don't say...

[Daggers]

I just knew there was more to the "Colin exposes himself to children" story.

[Manwell Pablo]

I just knew there was more to the "Colin exposes himself to children" story.

I've herd it includes gang rape and cocain. Possbibly a whore to*

*allegedly

[FoxyPV]

I've herd it includes gang rape and cocain. Possbibly a whore to*

*allegedly

I don't think kids are that depraved that they are willing to gang rape Colin... but then again