Baby Elvis Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 Okay.. So we didnt win on saturday but i think there maybe many positives taken out of the the game... Eg yakubu debut goal the fact we dominated and that we didnt lose.. Any one what to reply feel free!
samjohnson Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 Theres no use in pulling positives out of a game we should've had 3 points out of... It was 2 points lost and we need to make them up in another game...
Babylon Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 Theres no use in pulling positives out of a game we should've had 3 points out of... It was 2 points lost and we need to make them up in another game... Yeah we should all be bloody miserable and focus on all the shit things we did, completely ignore anything good, ring up radio leicester to moan and then jump off a bridge because of the depression.
Mjlewis08 Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 It's a game we probably would have lost before the new year. So a positive is we didn't lose. with a bit more work it's only a matter of time before Leicester dominate these matches! I think the negative taken away from this game is that we didn't really expect to lose after a great performance in the FA Cup. Patience is all we need :-)
davieG Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 Yeah we should all be bloody miserable and focus on all the shit things we did, completely ignore anything good, ring up radio leicester to moan and then jump off a bridge because of the depression. http://www.foxestalk...=0#entry1774816
Haydos Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 Yeah we should all be bloody miserable and focus on all the shit things we did, completely ignore anything good, ring up radio leicester to moan and then jump off a bridge because of the depression. Someone didn't have their kellogs this morning
Babylon Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 Someone didn't have their kellogs this morning Ha ha... I had my Kellogs crunchy nut actually. http://www.foxestalk...=0#entry1774816 I felt quite positive today actually.
Socks Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 I agree, we played really well and didnt lose, was a bit dissapointed but over it now, its only 6 points the gap with half of the season left but it was svens fault they got back in by making those subs with 10 mins to go, dont think hell make that mistake again but reckon the yak will get a goal a game ! great signing looking forward to tomorrow night!
marbelladave Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 Yeah we should all be bloody miserable and focus on all the shit things we did, completely ignore anything good, ring up radio leicester to moan and then jump off a bridge because of the depression. If we were talking about a one off performance I would agree, but we are not!... It is just another game in the sequence Bristol, Watford, Ipswich, Millwall..... all games where we could have quite reasonable have been expected to get more from than we did. We may have dominated against Bristol but we lost 2-0, we barely turned up at Ipswich or Millwall or for that matter during the first half at Watford. Simply not good enough for a team looking to get into the playoffs. The trouble is that our performances are all pretty consistent, we are bullied out of our stride by the more physical sides and against weaker sides we fail to make our superiority count, often succumbing to the sucker punch. I have said for some time that this team needs a really good shake up, particularly in midfield, without it I think we will fall short of a playoff spot... On the other hand, we have taken 7 points from our 3 league games this year, better than the 2 points per game average needed to be in with a shout for a playoff spot... See, it's not all bad...
Head Honcho Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 I agree, we played really well and didnt lose, was a bit dissapointed but over it now, its only 6 points the gap with half of the season left but it was svens fault they got back in by making those subs with 10 mins to go, dont think hell make that mistake again but reckon the yak will get a goal a game ! great signing looking forward to tomorrow night! The 6/1we currently are to be promoted, I'd have taken at the start of the season. Another couple of decent loanees in should put us in a decent position for a promotion push.
davieG Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 I agree, we played really well and didnt lose, was a bit dissapointed but over it now, its only 6 points the gap with half of the season left but it was svens fault they got back in by making those subs with 10 mins to go, dont think hell make that mistake again but reckon the yak will get a goal a game ! great signing looking forward to tomorrow night! I didn't get to this game so can not comment directly on the impact of the subs but purely with respect to the goal which, cost us the two points and which was a two touch hoof then the blame seems should be directed at Bamba and Hobbs for misjudging the play and leaving Hume totally unmarked.
Babylon Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 If we were talking about a one off performance I would agree, but we are not!... That's fine and I agree, but if someone wants to take positives out of the game (which this thread is about) why can't they? We have enough people venting misery on here in other threads so it's nice to have some positivity. Why should we all be so miserable about everything, nothing wrong with having a cup half full rather than half empty.
cc_star Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 It's a huge positive that we continue to make so many chances, this is half the battle won. Awesome stuff!
Babylon Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 It's a huge positive that we continue to make so many chances, this is half the battle won. Awesome stuff! Indeed, on another day it could have been a Donny style thumping. I'd be more concerned if we weren't creating chances.
marbelladave Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 That's fine and I agree, but if someone wants to take positives out of the game (which this thread is about) why can't they? We have enough people venting misery on here in other threads so it's nice to have some positivity. Why should we all be so miserable about everything, nothing wrong with having a cup half full rather than half empty. Despite the I am not at all miserable, just pointing out that we are close to being a very decent side. One more player, a really influential midfielder ideally, and we could be on our way. It has been pointed out elsewhere that 2 points a game will get us in with a chance of a playoff place and in three games this year we have collected 7 points. So actually we are already 'ahead of the curve', if that isn't positive I do not know what is!...
Corky Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 Agree about the Yak scoring, good way to start and hopefully that's the first of many.
scott_gunnell Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 To be fair to Leicester fan Baby Elvis, I don’t think he was ‘pulling punches’ at all. His thread is refreshing because there can be far to much negatively on here and not enough of the positives which makes to many replies biased and unbalanced. I don’t go to the games because I live to far away but by the sound of the match reports there are weak areas that Sven needs to address, but I also read about a lot of areas which are now strong. Yes of course, on paper you would have to say that Leicester should have beaten Preston, but we all know that football isn’t like that and never will be. I recall Man United losing to Burley last season. However Man United finished second and Burnley relegated so you have to think about the scale of the results. Leagues are a fair way to judge managers because during 1 single game, as you all know, it can be decided on a moment. The positives are that Preston where obviously lucky to get a point. Leicester created chances, hit the post twice and bossed the game for almost 90 minutes. Drawing with Man City is one of those special games where players can mentally put their game into another level. We all know that lower teams raising their game for potential Premier League winning teams can’t sustain it. Yes I am a fan of Sven but I do agree, he is spending a lot money, the pressure is on and 3 points wasn’t good enough, however as long as it doesn’t happen to often an the team show progress, then I don’t think it’s a concern at this point.
Haydos Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 Can see both sides of this argument really. For those that went there was obviously plenty to take from this. But on paper we should be getting 3 points against the 24th placed team who lost their last 4 games. That's the reason some people have grievances with a thread like this. Despite the I am not at all miserable, just pointing out that we are close to being a very decent side. One more player, a really influential midfielder ideally, and we could be on our way. You've mentioned this a few times now in different threads (Can't remember if you've been more specific at any point) but what do you think our midfield needs? I accept that it's 'good' but not 'league crushing' so who would be replaced and what sort of player would you like to see brought in? (Different style or just upgrade etc?)
Socks Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 I didn't get to this game so can not comment directly on the impact of the subs but purely with respect to the goal which, cost us the two points and which was a two touch hoof then the blame seems should be directed at Bamba and Hobbs for misjudging the play and leaving Hume totally unmarked. yeah they are to shoulder some of it but when sven made the subs it let them back in to the game as before the subs we ruled the game they probably would not of had that chance if hed of just left it as it is !
marbelladave Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 To be fair to Leicester fan Baby Elvis, I don't think he was 'pulling punches' at all. His thread is refreshing because there can be far to much negatively on here and not enough of the positives which makes to many replies biased and unbalanced. I don't go to the games because I live to far away but by the sound of the match reports there are weak areas that Sven needs to address, but I also read about a lot of areas which are now strong. Yes of course, on paper you would have to say that Leicester should have beaten Preston, but we all know that football isn't like that and never will be. I recall Man United losing to Burley last season. However Man United finished second and Burnley relegated so you have to think about the scale of the results. Leagues are a fair way to judge managers because during 1 single game, as you all know, it can be decided on a moment. The positives are that Preston where obviously lucky to get a point. Leicester created chances, hit the post twice and bossed the game for almost 90 minutes. Drawing with Man City is one of those special games where players can mentally put their game into another level. We all know that lower teams raising their game for potential Premier League winning teams can't sustain it. Yes I am a fan of Sven but I do agree, he is spending a lot money, the pressure is on and 3 points wasn't good enough, however as long as it doesn't happen to often an the team show progress, then I don't think it's a concern at this point. If the Preston game had been a 'one off', like the Utd game you mention, then you would be right but it is not, it is part of a consistent tendency to fail to perform away from home. In other words, it is happening too often...
Captain... Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 I didn't get to this game so can not comment directly on the impact of the subs but purely with respect to the goal which, cost us the two points and which was a two touch hoof then the blame seems should be directed at Bamba and Hobbs for misjudging the play and leaving Hume totally unmarked. I also wasn't at the game but I was surprised by the substitions, fragile one goal lead, need to sure things up, why not bring on a defender, by all accounts Mee is a good player, bringing on Mee for Berner seemed the obvious decision to me, I'm not saying it was Berner's fault the goal and it probably wouldn't have made a difference, but more for the fact that Berner is getting on a bit and Mee isn't available for the Man City game so he will have to play 90 minutes. I would also have brought on Waghorn instead of Howard, much more mobile chases people down and puts defenders under pressure up the pitch, but like I said I wasn't at the game so I don't know how we were playing and what we needed at that time. As for the positives 1 point away from home, better than 0, we played well and dominated in the stats, scoring debut for the Yak, no injuries, or yellow cards, reminds people that we aren't going to win the rest of our games, the play offs at the moment is a possibility not a probablility and the players need to work hard and start taking their chances if we are going to do it. Let's hope the players feel gutted about the result and it drives them on to beat Man City
Babylon Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 If the Preston game had been a 'one off', like the Utd game you mention, then you would be right but it is not, it is part of a consistent tendency to fail to perform away from home. In other words, it is happening too often... I think you may be missing the point of this thread.
Haydos Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 I would also have brought on Waghorn instead of Howard, much more mobile chases people down and puts defenders under pressure up the pitch, but like I said I wasn't at the game so I don't know how we were playing and what we needed at that time. This is the thing for me, Howard is.....'good'....when a game needs changing, either when we're chasing a game and it's a last resort or it's just not going for us. NOT when we need things tightening up. The Mee sub makes sense as well. Disappointing but yeah, there'll be worse results And like you mentioned, plenty of pluses
scott_gunnell Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 If the Preston game had been a 'one off', like the Utd game you mention, then you would be right but it is not, it is part of a consistent tendency to fail to perform away from home. In other words, it is happening too often... Yes fair point. The away form is a concern, I can’t argue with that. Sven needs to sort it out. I back him to sort it out as I am sure most do, Interesting enough, Sven once talked about a team in Sweden that used to lose at home and win away a lot. The manager got the players to board the coach on home games and drive around aimlessly for an hour which lead them back to the home ground. He was trying to put the team into a frame of mind similar to the away games. It didn’t work and Sven said that he didn’t believe in doing things like that. Sven said the best approach is get into the payers thought processes and find the psychological solution. Its interesting though isn’t it? Sven has proved that at home he can be unbeatable but not replicated it away. If the away form was same as the home form then he would be sacked in this day and age of footy
marbelladave Posted 17 January 2011 Posted 17 January 2011 Can see both sides of this argument really. For those that went there was obviously plenty to take from this. But on paper we should be getting 3 points against the 24th placed team who lost their last 4 games. That's the reason some people have grievances with a thread like this. You've mentioned this a few times now in different threads (Can't remember if you've been more specific at any point) but what do you think our midfield needs? I accept that it's 'good' but not 'league crushing' so who would be replaced and what sort of player would you like to see brought in? (Different style or just upgrade etc?) I have said this many times, but to reiterate briefly, I think our 3 regular midfielders are a bit 'samey', not because they play the same way (they don't) but because they are all essentially supporting players. The problem is that we do not have a player capable of dominating midfield, either technically or physically. Such a player would be ably supported by any two of our existing midfield who would excell in that role, they could be 'rotated' or one of them could be dropped to the bench, which one would depend on the particular strengths of the player brought in. yeah they are to shoulder some of it but when sven made the subs it let them back in to the game as before the subs we ruled the game they probably would not of had that chance if hed of just left it as it is ! I think the plan was for Oakley to sit and cover the back 4 and for Moussa and Howard to provide fresh legs up front. Oakley and Moussa both appeared to be well off the pace, Oakley getting lost for the goal when he should have been covering his centerbacks and Moussa giving the ball away and committing fouls. They are both better players than we saw on saturday but this time they were both poor and (arguably) they cost us 2 points.
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