lcfcadam Posted 21 January 2011 Posted 21 January 2011 I'd say the most realistic solution is to get onto Doc Brown and sort a trip back to the late eighties to stop Taylor (why is it everyone bad for football has that surname?) from publishing his silly, uninformed report. Much more realistic than getting the club to convert some of the ground to safe standing I fear...
The Doctor Posted 21 January 2011 Posted 21 January 2011 I'm all for standing but I can understand why people wouldn't be keen on it. For instance about 4 years ago I had quite a few problems with my knees and ankles in particular, which did make it difficult to stand and/or jump about for an extended period of time, if someone does have problems like that, which stop them from being able to stand then no-one should be forcing them to stand while the opposite applies as well. Ideally we'd see the introduction of safe standing, but even with the EDM recently regarding standing in football we're unlikely to see it introduced any-time soon. Similarly co-operation from clubs in organising the ends so that fans who want to stand can stand without ruining it for those who want to sit and vice versa but I don't see why we even need to have this debate, if you want to stand, get a ticket near the back and if you don't want to, get a ticket near the front.
Guest Bilo Posted 21 January 2011 Posted 21 January 2011 Like others, I believe in the common-sense approach to standing at matches. If you have been going to away games for any length of time, the pattern is always the same. Standers tend to conglomerate at the back with sitters doing so at the front. If you stand at the front of the away end, don't be too surprised if you get a few jabs in the back telling you to sit down. It's irritating but there are ways around it without your day being ruined or getting into conflict. The fact is that you are no better or worse a fan for choosing to express your support in a different way, after all we are apparently a free country. It's rare for example that you won't find some space at the back to stand, even at Eastlands I was able to move back a few rows for the second half to stand with friends, so at places like Watford and Swansea where we will almost certainly not sell out, you can always try to squeeze in with others. That's where the atmosphere tends to be anyway, as there is undoubtedly a correlation between standing and singing. Similarly, if you want to sit and find your seat is at the back of the stand so are surrounded by standers, don't start calling for the stewards and make yourself unpopular, there are likely to be empty seats somewhere further forward vacated by those who have moved backwards to stand. It's common sense, if everyone used it there would be no need for arguments like this where sitters end up being called sanctimonious old farts who should stay at home and standers are accused of being elitist, childish aggressive idiots who need to learn the regulations. Whatever the football authorities say, these divisions do exist and they aren't going away any time soon. With safe standing having about as much chance as being introduced as mandatory animal porn at KS1 in the short term, we have to learn to co-exist with fans who want to express their support in their own way sensibly. Save your ire for the out-of-touch idiots who have never been to a football match that created this ridiculous situation in their ivory towers, not for other fans of the same club.
Kitchandro Posted 21 January 2011 Posted 21 January 2011 I've not read anyone on here saying everyone should be forced to stand up, so I don't know why it has been suggested so...
Maybes Posted 21 January 2011 Posted 21 January 2011 Bilo's hit the nail on the head. Move to the back or get involved in an aisle if you want to stand.
Dickie Greenleaf Posted 21 January 2011 Posted 21 January 2011 What a stupid post this is, piss off telling me I should`nt go to away games, I have not missed a game, home or away, for 26 years, how`s YOUR record looking ?? in my younger day`s standing up for 90 mins was fine, now various bits of me bluddy ache when I stand for too long, I pay for a SEAT and prefer to sit in it, I still sing etc but enjoy sitting to watch my footie now, I`m looking forward to the day you stand in front of me because I will moan and if you nicely, or otherwise tell me to fcuk off, well, we`ll see what happens !!!!
marbelladave Posted 21 January 2011 Posted 21 January 2011 I've not read anyone on here saying everyone should be forced to stand up, so I don't know why it has been suggested so... I don't feel that the real issue is about standing or sitting.... It is, in my view, about freedom of movement. All my early years as a City supporter was spent in Filbert St when it was easily possible to enter the Kop in the corner next to the popular stand and walk through the kop and into the enclosure in front of the (old) west stand, right up to the wall of the tunnel should you so wish. The great advantage was that you could stand where you liked, if it was too rowdy, you could easily move to a quieter area and of course vice versa. If you wanted to be in the Kop, soak up the atmosphere but be clear of the noise and boisterous section at the back behind the goal, it was easy to do so, just move a little to the sides, brilliant. Filbert St was like this right up to the introduction of the 'pens' (early 80's?) which were designed to control the fans by breaking them up, this destroyed the atmosphere and made it too easy for people to get into the wrong pens and was the start of the devisiveness that is wrecking the football experince. Simply put, if you want to move to areas where like minded fans are, then the situation is sorted, but modern methods of crowd control love to have fans tied to a specific seat so that any 'trouble makers' can be readily identified.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 21 January 2011 Posted 21 January 2011 ".....there is undoubtedly a correlation between standing and singing......." I'm being curious rather than difficult, but why do you think this is? The two clearly go hand in hand in the minds of a lot of supporters but I'm really not sure how the link between the two became as strong as it is
Trav Le Bleu Posted 21 January 2011 Posted 21 January 2011 I'm being curious rather than difficult, but why do you think this is? The two clearly go hand in hand in the minds of a lot of supporters but I'm really not sure how the link between the two became as strong as it is Physiological fact - it's easier to sing when standing due to increased lung capacity (when you sit the body compresses down on your backside basically) You won't find many performance singers, whether Pop, Rock, Choral, et al, sitting. Come to think of it, when I think of songs sung by people sitting, they always mellow and gentle songs. You just can't get the power when sat down.
Guest Bilo Posted 21 January 2011 Posted 21 January 2011 I'm being curious rather than difficult, but why do you think this is? The two clearly go hand in hand in the minds of a lot of supporters but I'm really not sure how the link between the two became as strong as it is What Trav said. Beat me to the punch. It's also a lot about tradition, the loudest areas of the ground for any club be it the Stretford End, the Kop at Anfield or our very own Kop at Filbo have always been standing areas. Standing and singing as a combination is one that has been long-ingrained into the national football psyche.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 21 January 2011 Posted 21 January 2011 Physiological fact - it's easier to sing when standing due to increased lung capacity (when you sit the body compresses down on your backside basically) You won't find many performance singers, whether Pop, Rock, Choral, et al, sitting. Come to think of it, when I think of songs sung by people sitting, they always mellow and gentle songs. You just can't get the power when sat down. Like this, you mean? I'm not sure that you find many performance singers at a football game, to be honest. Although I did used to enjoy pretend George Michael
The Year Of The Fox Posted 21 January 2011 Posted 21 January 2011 Someone said that Man City the other night was a sell out and therfore there was nowhere else to go. I know for a fact we didn't sell out. On the OS on Monday it claimed that as of Friday evening there were 200 tickets available. I had to go to the TO on Tuesday morning after losing my ticket. The bird there told me there were 400 left. In the ground, on the second tier front row to possibly 15 rows back were empty seats.
Leicester_Loyal Posted 22 January 2011 Posted 22 January 2011 If you want to stand, go to the back seats, if you want sit, try to get as near to the front as possible. One thing that pisses me off is lads standing when theres young kids behind, they obviously can't see.
Fosse Boy Posted 22 January 2011 Posted 22 January 2011 If you want to stand, go to the back seats, if you want sit, try to get as near to the front as possible. One thing that pisses me off is lads standing when theres young kids behind, they obviously can't see. Apart from the kids who were dead excited about standing on their seats behind me at QPR away last year.
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