JamesLCFC Posted 22 January 2011 Posted 22 January 2011 Do we need more transfers now? i know we have the money but in reality we have a team thats unbeaten at home under sven, and finally picking up the points away. Looking at our next few games having sheffield united,derby,barnsley in next 3 fixtures are all WINNABLE games, by winnable i mean there not norwich,forest,qpr for example. We now have what everyone moaned about- A goalscorer- Yakubu has scored 2 goals in the 2 games hes played, if he ccan score every game like he has done so far this has been sorted. We also have improved our defense, apart from mee's penatlys today i think naughton,hobbs,bamba and berner is a very solid defense. I also think we have one of the best midfields in the championship. Andy king,richie wellens and yuki abe! So my question is, do we really need new signings, cause i think if we keep this squad now instead of it being unsettled, then it can become, a play off squad! Weale Naughton Bamba Hobbs Berner Wellens King Abe Vassell yakubu gallagher/dyer
Leicester_Loyal Posted 22 January 2011 Posted 22 January 2011 We need more width in midfield and also to give us the option of a 4-4-2. And I think those midfielders will give us a stronger bench.
dbtcity Posted 22 January 2011 Posted 22 January 2011 Look at are bench today... If we get a couple of injuries to key players we would be totally screwed...logan,moreno,oakley,howard,waghorn,moussa,hobbs, we need more quality in the team just incase injures happen. Sounds like waghorn wants to go out on loan for guaranteed 1st team football, so if you take him of are bench it is a really poor bench bar Hobbs who will hopefully be starting over Mee
Cropwellfox Posted 22 January 2011 Posted 22 January 2011 Left back definately required now Kennedy has gone to Peterboro - he won't be back Centre half also - (Vitor will never stay beyond the end of the season, and we can't rely on Tunch ever playing again) Wouldn't be averse to an out and out right winger to give us a credible 442 option. Keeper - not essential, but if there was any chance of Westwood coming here we should grab it
OmnipresentSam Posted 22 January 2011 Posted 22 January 2011 I'm still unsure about our keeper position, not a huge fan of Chris Weale.
B52 Posted 22 January 2011 Posted 22 January 2011 This is the "big" problem. Players need to be first team or else they behave badly..... We need quality, nearly two full teams. This has nothing to do with our next five or ten games. It's about 1,2,3 years. If we buy a busload of players it doesn't matter. A proffessional player knows that he plays when the manager wants. Those don't liking it will leave. This is a teamwork and not what a few sulking players want.
One Arm Babba Posted 22 January 2011 Posted 22 January 2011 If Waghorn goes out on loan, we need another forward. Howard is a one dimensional backup....albeit an effective one for free-kicks and corners. I think we need another "vassell/Yakubu" type
ajthefox Posted 22 January 2011 Posted 22 January 2011 Our starting 11 is without doubt one of the best in the league so in that respect we don't need anything but a good consistent run to get us further up the table. Having said that, in terms of depth we are lacking a little, for example Logan, Oakley, Moreno, Neilson, Lamey etc who are nothing on who they are back up for. Generally speaking, but with the pulling power sven has particularly, it seems a bit odd to sign someone purely as backup if you can get someone better, but then you risk unsettling the team and upsetting one player in particular if you buy someone to start. I think we could do with a right winger as well. I like N'guessan from what I've seen and Moussa has been alright a couple times, but I suppose they are too of several Sven doesn't rate.
JamesLCFC Posted 23 January 2011 Author Posted 23 January 2011 I think this season, were allright, we'd have to spend alot of money to do well in the prem if we were promoted next season!
ajthefox Posted 23 January 2011 Posted 23 January 2011 I think this season, were allright, we'd have to spend alot of money to do well in the prem if we were promoted next season! Not at all, it can be done without. I'd rather not have to say this but Holloway is proving it's possible on a shoe string.
JamesLCFC Posted 23 January 2011 Author Posted 23 January 2011 Not at all, it can be done without. I'd rather not have to say this but Holloway is proving it's possible on a shoe string. By alot of money i mean more then 250k (so far)
Kitchandro Posted 23 January 2011 Posted 23 January 2011 I don't think we need to improve the first team at all TBH. Our attacking problems seem to be sorted. We were immense going forward today and we have Gallagher, Waghorn and Howard on the bench (I still think Howard can be useful as an impact sub, but should be below Waghorn in the pecking order anyway) Give the defence a run of games (and stop sticking loanees in there just because a player has a couple of bad games after a run of good ones) and it will develop more understanding and better communication. An unsettled defence will never work. We have Mee and Vitor for back up who are both versatile. The midfield is great. We probably need better options on the bench in central midfield and goalkeeper, but not too many. No one in the starting lineup needs replacing, to attempt to do that would have an adverse affect.
ajthefox Posted 23 January 2011 Posted 23 January 2011 I don't think we need to improve the first team at all TBH. Our attacking problems seem to be sorted. We were immense going forward today and we have Gallagher, Waghorn and Howard on the bench (I still think Howard can be useful as an impact sub, but should be below Waghorn in the pecking order anyway) Give the defence a run of games (and stop sticking loanees in there just because a player has a couple of bad games after a run of good ones) and it will develop more understanding and better communication. An unsettled defence will never work. We have Mee and Vitor for back up who are both versatile. The midfield is great. We probably need better options on the bench in central midfield and goalkeeper, but not too many. No one in the starting lineup needs replacing, to attempt to do that would have an adverse affect. This is what I genuinely don't get. So many people, Sven included, seem to think that we need better defenders and it amazes me. I can't believe how many people don't get it, a team won't win anything if there is no consistency, particularly defence. If you keep changing your defence you are asking for a bumming sooner rather than later, if you give a back 4 time to play together they will get better and mistakes will become fewer and further between. Last season is a perfect illustration. Most of that team are deemed not good enough by Sven, but when the team sheet is consistent and changes are minimal, all it takes is some motivation and some team spirit and you can win a lot of football matches, it might not be pretty but it works.
gibwarrior1988 Posted 23 January 2011 Posted 23 January 2011 This is what I genuinely don't get. So many people, Sven included, seem to think that we need better defenders and it amazes me. I can't believe how many people don't get it, a team won't win anything if there is no consistency, particularly defence. If you keep changing your defence you are asking for a bumming sooner rather than later, if you give a back 4 time to play together they will get better and mistakes will become fewer and further between. Last season is a perfect illustration. Most of that team are deemed not good enough by Sven, but when the team sheet is consistent and changes are minimal, all it takes is some motivation and some team spirit and you can win a lot of football matches, it might not be pretty but it works. Thank God somebody has some sense on here!
Kitchandro Posted 23 January 2011 Posted 23 January 2011 This is what I genuinely don't get. So many people, Sven included, seem to think that we need better defenders and it amazes me. I can't believe how many people don't get it, a team won't win anything if there is no consistency, particularly defence. If you keep changing your defence you are asking for a bumming sooner rather than later, if you give a back 4 time to play together they will get better and mistakes will become fewer and further between. Last season is a perfect illustration. Most of that team are deemed not good enough by Sven, but when the team sheet is consistent and changes are minimal, all it takes is some motivation and some team spirit and you can win a lot of football matches, it might not be pretty but it works. Last season's back four: Neilson-Hobbs-Brown-Berner Neilson is crap. Brown isn't as good as Bamba. But we conceded less goals than we are doing this season. We haven't had a settled side all season, maybe that's why we haven't put a run together? And it's especially important that the back 4 is settled. Give them a run of games. Then, if we are still leaking like a sieve, I'll accept it's the personnel that's the problem. There's a reason Hobbs has been inconsistent this season and it aint because he's turned crap overnight.
gibwarrior1988 Posted 23 January 2011 Posted 23 January 2011 Last season's back four: Neilson-Hobbs-Brown-Berner Neilson is crap. Brown isn't as good as Bamba. But we conceded less goals than we are doing this season. We haven't had a settled side all season, maybe that's why we haven't put a run together? And it's especially important that the back 4 is settled. Give them a run of games. Then, if we are still leaking like a sieve, I'll accept it's the personnel that's the problem. There's a reason Hobbs has been inconsistent this season and it aint because he's turned crap overnight.
Heskey2011 Posted 23 January 2011 Posted 23 January 2011 Agree about the back four but i do think we need some strengthening, i'd like to hold on to Waghorn, if he goes out on loan it's not a great message to the lad, massive transfer cost, he'd be labelled a flop, i'd like to see him rotate with Vassell / Dyer.
Leicester_Loyal Posted 23 January 2011 Posted 23 January 2011 A better GK is a must (on the bench) and a couple of mids as I've already said, just to provide a width and maybe a 4-4-2 option. Depends if we'll need it though? At least it gives us the option I suppose and I don't fancy Howard or Oakley coming off the bench.
ajthefox Posted 23 January 2011 Posted 23 January 2011 A better GK is a must (on the bench) and a couple of mids as I've already said, just to provide a width and maybe a 4-4-2 option. Depends if we'll need it though? At least it gives us the option I suppose and I don't fancy Howard or Oakley coming off the bench. Very fair point mate and although I don't think signing many more players is wise, it does worry what might happen if for example Wellens was injured for a while. Although I think Oakley gets a fair bit of unwarranted stick he certainly isn't cut out for doing what Wellens does for 90 minutes, and we have no-one else who could play that role. But we couldn't revert to a 4-4-2 cause Kingy and Abe wouldn't work as a midfield pairing so then what would we do. Plus we could do with an out and out winger on the right as I don't think Gallagher would be anywhere near as effective as he is now in the midfield 5/front 3 if he were to be part of a midfield 4.
SeattleShane Posted 23 January 2011 Posted 23 January 2011 Its worrying how many goals Weale seems to let in from distance. Oakley and Howard shouldnt play again. A couple more signings needed.
B52 Posted 23 January 2011 Posted 23 January 2011 Not at all, it can be done without. I'd rather not have to say this but Holloway is proving it's possible on a shoe string. Holloway bought a Rangers player for 500K and Sven bought a Hibs player for 250K. I presume Sven can buy at least one more player then?
dpjfox Posted 23 January 2011 Posted 23 January 2011 Svens made it clear he wants another centre back (seems its Davies or Norlandes), he also said no drastic team changes until summer, so maybe 2 more incoming players at the most until summer
marbelladave Posted 23 January 2011 Posted 23 January 2011 Last season's back four: Neilson-Hobbs-Brown-Berner Neilson is crap. Brown isn't as good as Bamba. But we conceded less goals than we are doing this season. We haven't had a settled side all season, maybe that's why we haven't put a run together? And it's especially important that the back 4 is settled. Give them a run of games. Then, if we are still leaking like a sieve, I'll accept it's the personnel that's the problem. There's a reason Hobbs has been inconsistent this season and it aint because he's turned crap overnight. A settled back 4 is important, but having the right players is important too. Personel wise we have been unbalanced all season, the lack of a dependable left sided center back is a huge issue, Berner's early season form was gash, so the left side of our defence has been unbalanced and unsettled all season. This remains the case even now, Hobbs is far from comfortable on the left, Mee a tyro and Berner clearly past his best. Settling for what we have, in whatever combination will not be good enough over the rest of the season. Regarding the comparison with Pearson's defence, I feel a lot of you have very short memories. Under Pearson our back 4 played deep, was covered by 4 sometimes 5 midfielders and was not required to play any footbal, hoof being the order of the day. Do you really think we could set up our passing game with the ball being constantly hoofed upfield by Brown, Hobbs and the rest? No chance! We have radically changed our style of defending and this is now crucial to the way we play, do we need a more settled back 4? Certainly, but do we have the players to give us that stability, that is the question. Another center back, left sided preferably and a left back please!...
Jakemoore Posted 23 January 2011 Posted 23 January 2011 Couldn't agree more with the majority of what has been said here, our first 11 is first class but if we suffer a few injuries then we're stuffed, however, there is a fine line between bringing in players for cover and messing up the team morale by buying and replacing. We can't afford to be sentimental either, for example say Sven does sign Zakora, we can't keep Abe in the first team over Zakora just because that's been his position this season and he's done brilliantly well there. The next 9 days are going to vital to whether we mount a genuine promotion challenge or not. Couldn't agree more with the majority of what has been said here, our first 11 is first class but if we suffer a few injuries then we're stuffed, however, there is a fine line between bringing in players for cover and messing up the team morale by buying and replacing. We can't afford to be sentimental either, for example say Sven does sign Zakora, we can't keep Abe in the first team over Zakora just because that's been his position this season and he's done brilliantly well there. The next 9 days are going to vital to whether we mount a genuine promotion challenge or not.
pete1477 Posted 23 January 2011 Posted 23 January 2011 to say we dont need new players, were you at the game yesterday ,attack us down the left and you have a chance i like Berner but with the pace we are trying to play with i think his time is over,and the same for hobbs ,under NIGEL PEARSON thay were proctected by the midfeild and did not play with such a high line so were not run at with pace , if you saw the game yesterday at half time millwall changed ,and never went at noughton and bambb down the right once ,and this as happend alot since vitor /cunningham got injured so better teams will have seen this to and we could get caught out i think a new left back is vital
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