Kitchandro Posted 17 April 2011 Posted 17 April 2011 Schlupp isn't making the Brentford starting 11 now and Waghorn has just 4 goals to his name and isn't suited to our style of football under Sven. I'm pretty sure Schlupp has scored 3 times for them. Waghorn - 4 goals - Vassell -3 goals. By saying he's not suited to football under Sven I can only assume you mean he's not lazy and isn't being guranteed a place in the team no matter how he plays. He's quick, skilful, and likes run at defenders. He is a quality young player who we should be holding on to. He needs to work on his finishing and be more consintant with his first touch but he's certainly worth a place on our bench. Certainly ahead of Vassell. I wouldn't have either player as a starter yet but they both obviously have potential and we need to make the most of it, not get rid of it so someone else make the most out of it like Gradel.
Kitchandro Posted 17 April 2011 Posted 17 April 2011 You might be joking, but he'd fit into our system so much next season. But he'll never get a chance here cause he'll be booed before he even kicks a ball. And too right. He actually would deserve it. He's struggling at the bottom of the French Division.
Kitchandro Posted 17 April 2011 Posted 17 April 2011 Anyone who thinks we'd be better with Waghorn as our main striker than Yakubu should just fvck off. Maybe you should just fvck off Yeh wanting someone who works hard for the team rather than someone who hinders the team by not trying is really bad. What terrible fans we are. Yakubu shows glimpses of brilliance but so what. We need more than glimpses. We've suffered badly because of players not pulling their weight recently, and Yakubu is the prime culprit. At best I'd say I'm on the fence with him.
ScouseFox Posted 17 April 2011 Posted 17 April 2011 Maybe you should just fvck off Yeh wanting someone who works hard for the team rather than someone who hinders the team by not trying is really bad. What terrible fans we are. Yakubu shows glimpses of brilliance but so what. We need more than glimpses. We've suffered badly because of players not pulling their weight recently, and Yakubu is the prime culprit. At best I'd say I'm on the fence with him. Well this is where the problem lies. We evidently want differnt things from our team. I'd be over the moon for Yakubu to score often and not close down, whereas you'd be happier for Waghorn to close down often and not score. Guess it just depends what you want from a striker, effort (Huuuume, we got relegated) or goals (Yakubu, we're pushing for the play offs).
Kitchandro Posted 18 April 2011 Posted 18 April 2011 Well this is where the problem lies. We evidently want differnt things from our team. I'd be over the moon for Yakubu to score often and not close down, whereas you'd be happier for Waghorn to close down often and not score. Guess it just depends what you want from a striker, effort (Huuuume, we got relegated) or goals (Yakubu, we're pushing for the play offs). Well I'd rather both effort and goals, is that too much to ask? With the money we've got it certainly isn't. Our play-off push has failed for a number of reasons, certain players not willing to work is one of them. Yakubu started off well but he's not done much since the Bristol game - one hat trick (which was a bit flukey) and that's it. And I mean that's it, his contribution has been close to zero when he's not scored. At least with Waghorn you can say that when he's not scoring he'll help the team by chasing balls down, trying to move into space, making himself available etc. Saying you prefer Yakubu is one thing, but I think telling people who don't think he's amazing to fvck off is a bit far. He's not been a clearcut revelation by any means.
Brown Fox Posted 18 April 2011 Posted 18 April 2011 We need to give accessory, col city fan, acooling & company their own football club to run - preferrably somewhere on the outskirts of Leicester. How about you take over Coventry City and start anew? Good shout!
irishfox Posted 18 April 2011 Posted 18 April 2011 I think a season long loan for Schlupp next season would be best, keep Waghorn i know it hasn't worked out this season but I do think he is a good player and over the summer is a fresh start with probably a lot of new players and it could work out but saying that we all know we need a prolific striker something we havent had for a long long time (Matty Fryatt in league1 dosen't count). In my opinion our aims need to be finding a prolific striker, a good commanding Goalkeeper and the defence needs to be a lot tighter a captin like center back would fit the bill, maybe 1 or 2 loanees but nothing like this season im happy for all the loanees to go back except for Naughton!!
Thracian Posted 19 April 2011 Posted 19 April 2011 If Schlupp becomes a regular, I give it 2 or 3 matches before the cynics come in and make him a scapegoat for any losses we encounter <_< You're right. It's slightly better now but too many of our fans don't trust or warm to young players but will worship anyone with a name who turns up, whether they're effective for us or not. Unless Waghorn is going to improve his abilities beyond recognition - including getting a right foot to more than stand on - I don't see him as an answer for all his liveliness that is not really blistering pace over any length of time. Schlupp is different. This lad could be a first team goalscorer given the time and patience that would allow him to adapt. But goalscoring is not just about people who put the ball in the net. It's about support in numbers and thoughtful passes made accurately. We just don't have enough in this department either from central midfield or from the flanks. Right now we're delivering too many of the wrong balls for the players we have. It has to be the other way around.
leicesterseddon Posted 19 April 2011 Posted 19 April 2011 Youth? Are you ****ing joking? The reason we aren't in the POs at the minute is because our back four has an average age of about 21 or something. We need a cruncher in midfield and a centre-half with experience alongside whom Mee or whoever (or Hobbs?, I would argue) can play. Is it any co-incidence that we got the best out of Hobbs when he was alongside the older, more experienced Wayne Brown, and that as soon as he went, his performances started to decline. We need someone with a bit of authority at the back - because there sure as hell isn't anyone there at the minute with that.
The Doctor Posted 19 April 2011 Posted 19 April 2011 Would they have done any worse than Bruma or Yakubu? well given that Fryatt is incapable of playing out wide (witness ipswich away) or as a lone striker (swansea away) and has never really performed without pearson as his manager while the yak has a strike rate of nearly a goal every other game, which would translate to a 20+ goal haul for a full season and is on course to be 2/3rd top scorer for us despite arriving with little match practise and half way through the season would suggest the yak is a better option than fryatt. As for bruma, i'll wait until after this weekend once i've seen him play with someone other than bamba to make my mind up on him (presuming he plays that is).
Jimmy Posted 19 April 2011 Posted 19 April 2011 Youth? Are you ****ing joking? The reason we aren't in the POs at the minute is because our back four has an average age of about 21 or something. We need a cruncher in midfield and a centre-half with experience alongside whom Mee or whoever (or Hobbs?, I would argue) can play. Is it any co-incidence that we got the best out of Hobbs when he was alongside the older, more experienced Wayne Brown, and that as soon as he went, his performances started to decline. We need someone with a bit of authority at the back - because there sure as hell isn't anyone there at the minute with that. it was also a far more restrictive system where the defenders just had to head the ball and lump it forward, where as now we play from the back and Hobbs isn't the greatest in this respect
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