ivarti Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 Sven joined and lifted the club away from the relegation zone, that was great. The fact that Sven thought it was possible to push for promotion with a team in great change was naive and not something you would have thought would come from such an experienced manager. He must have thought that all other managers in this division are "not as good as him", not a very wise thought. He has also shown that he doesn't have the full understanding of the division and that he has a bit to learn as a Championship manager. This is based on his strategies and use of players. Billy Davies (Forest), Neil Warnock (QPR), Dave Jones (Cardiff), Nigel Pearson (Hull), Simon Grayson (Leeds) are younger, but have all been in and around the play-off's before, some of them (Davies, Warnock, Jones) have all promoted teams to the Premier League, something Sven not yet have experienced. Sven has so far not promoted any teams as manager in European football, so that is a totally new challenge for the experienced manager. No one expected a promotion this season and to get into the play-off's would have been a dream, but for Sven, that was his goal. He failed and his strategy never involved building a team around the current group of players and instead using loan signings to get up. He has to start building from scratch this summer and that is really a shame. Hopefully he will be a bit more patient, understand this division better and try to build a team and a squad during the summer that will believe they have a future at the club and that can plan for more than 1 to 6 games. One to three loan signings will not be a problem, but they must never be the backbound of the team, then other clubs in this division will punish City.
Donut Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 POSITIVES 1) We now have an international calibre manager, this cannot be anyting but positive 2) Our style of play has become more progressive, entertaining, and with time i believe we will be succesful 3) Steadied the ship after an extremely poor start and got us to within touching distance of the playoffs 4) Has injected a focus and intensity to training lacking under Sousa 5) Has made our club a much more attractive proposition for potential signings 6) Has built our scouting network on the basis of his contacts NEGATIVES 1) Staunchly loyal to 'his' players to the detriment of players in good form or more 'natural' choices in various positions 2) Tends to fit players into a system rather than picking the best system regardless of individuals 3) Somewhat tactically unadaptable for when games call for a different approach 4) Questionable transfer dealings and strategy for signing players. A high turnover of loans, some successful, some not 5) Has chopped and changed the team more frequently than has been necessary, damaging continuity
acooling08 Posted 22 April 2011 Posted 22 April 2011 ++ From Bottom to play off challengers + Some good signings (Faz, Naughton, Mee) + Got us playing good football + Attracts quality to the club. - Some bad signings (Bednar, Yak, Bruma) - Team selection iffy on occasion as are subs (sometimes). Chopping and changing of defence hasn't helped defensively. - Can he motivate in times of hardship??
Guest parky0607 Posted 23 April 2011 Posted 23 April 2011 I'd just like to see him look further afield, rather than going for the obvious premiership ex-stars or slops. (although naughton and mee were good choices) For example, if you take a look at the last under 20 world cup: Winner: Ghana Runners-Up: Brazil Third: Hungary Fourth: Costa Rica Now there's got to be some young quality out there.
21st Century Fox Posted 23 April 2011 Posted 23 April 2011 I don't think he ever thought that we were going to get promoted because he thought he was the best manager, from what I picked up he didn't say we would get promoted but we were going to make a go of it.
Guest Col city fan Posted 23 April 2011 Posted 23 April 2011 Sven joined and lifted the club away from the relegation zone, that was great. The fact that Sven thought it was possible to push for promotion with a team in great change was naive and not something you would have thought would come from such an experienced manager. He must have thought that all other managers in this division are "not as good as him", not a very wise thought. He has also shown that he doesn't have the full understanding of the division and that he has a bit to learn as a Championship manager. This is based on his strategies and use of players. Billy Davies (Forest), Neil Warnock (QPR), Dave Jones (Cardiff), Nigel Pearson (Hull), Simon Grayson (Leeds) are younger, but have all been in and around the play-off's before, some of them (Davies, Warnock, Jones) have all promoted teams to the Premier League, something Sven not yet have experienced. Sven has so far not promoted any teams as manager in European football, so that is a totally new challenge for the experienced manager. No one expected a promotion this season and to get into the play-off's would have been a dream, but for Sven, that was his goal. He failed and his strategy never involved building a team around the current group of players and instead using loan signings to get up. He has to start building from scratch this summer and that is really a shame. Hopefully he will be a bit more patient, understand this division better and try to build a team and a squad during the summer that will believe they have a future at the club and that can plan for more than 1 to 6 games. One to three loan signings will not be a problem, but they must never be the backbound of the team, then other clubs in this division will punish City. Objective opinions (as usual): Positive: * for a bloke of his age Sven seems to have done very well for totty.. fair play to him for that * Mee, Naughton and especially Cunningham are good young players * He gets on well with the Thais * We had a very good run mid-season * When its good its VERY good eg. Burnley * He appears to have got Oakley playing well Negative: * when we are losing we don't usually look like we can come back and win * I don't want him to sign older journeymen, unless they are of the right mentality * Defensively we have gone to pieces * Our current form represents the worst in the division * I don't get Bruma and I'm not sure on Bamba * I question his motivational skills, IF his interviews are like his team-talks There, 6 a piece... objective and more importantly, balanced
marbelladave Posted 23 April 2011 Posted 23 April 2011 Sven joined and lifted the club away from the relegation zone, that was great. The fact that Sven thought it was possible to push for promotion with a team in great change was naive and not something you would have thought would come from such an experienced manager. He must have thought that all other managers in this division are "not as good as him", not a very wise thought. He has also shown that he doesn't have the full understanding of the division and that he has a bit to learn as a Championship manager. This is based on his strategies and use of players. Billy Davies (Forest), Neil Warnock (QPR), Dave Jones (Cardiff), Nigel Pearson (Hull), Simon Grayson (Leeds) are younger, but have all been in and around the play-off's before, some of them (Davies, Warnock, Jones) have all promoted teams to the Premier League, something Sven not yet have experienced. Sven has so far not promoted any teams as manager in European football, so that is a totally new challenge for the experienced manager. No one expected a promotion this season and to get into the play-off's would have been a dream, but for Sven, that was his goal. He failed and his strategy never involved building a team around the current group of players and instead using loan signings to get up. He has to start building from scratch this summer and that is really a shame. Hopefully he will be a bit more patient, understand this division better and try to build a team and a squad during the summer that will believe they have a future at the club and that can plan for more than 1 to 6 games. One to three loan signings will not be a problem, but they must never be the backbound of the team, then other clubs in this division will punish City. You see what happened clearly enough but simply do not understand what you have seen. Coming in when he did he had to deal with the wreckage of the Sousa era, unfit players, team spirit destroyed and a very fed up team. Any kind of serious rebuilding would have to wait, the january window is not the time for serious signings so the season would have to be either a holding operation or an ambitious gamble. Sven (and Top) took the second option and fell short, not by that much really, had we continued into March as we started the year a playoff spot would have been ours. Yes, we used mainly loan players but this was implicit in the decisions made by Sven and Top, to criticise this is to miss the point. This was a short term gamble that failed, it gave us some great football to enjoy and was so successful that in February even normally sensible posters thought we had the playoff spot in the bag. The slump in form was pretty spectacular and Sven could do little about it, he could not 'go back to basics' or change the way we play because there was no basic struture to go back to, the players would either be good enough or they would not.
ivarti Posted 23 April 2011 Author Posted 23 April 2011 You see what happened clearly enough but simply do not understand what you have seen. Coming in when he did he had to deal with the wreckage of the Sousa era, unfit players, team spirit destroyed and a very fed up team. Any kind of serious rebuilding would have to wait, the january window is not the time for serious signings so the season would have to be either a holding operation or an ambitious gamble. Sven (and Top) took the second option and fell short, not by that much really, had we continued into March as we started the year a playoff spot would have been ours. Yes, we used mainly loan players but this was implicit in the decisions made by Sven and Top, to criticise this is to miss the point. This was a short term gamble that failed, it gave us some great football to enjoy and was so successful that in February even normally sensible posters thought we had the playoff spot in the bag. The slump in form was pretty spectacular and Sven could do little about it, he could not 'go back to basics' or change the way we play because there was no basic struture to go back to, the players would either be good enough or they would not. You must be joking, saying Sven has nothing to do with the slump in form, who is in charge, who is responsible. You should first look at this, http://foxblogger.wordpress.com/2011/03/24/why-sven-is-learning-quickly-but-not-quickly-enough/? when you have looked at this then please have a new idea. You can look at what Neil Warnock did at QPR, what Martin O'Neill did at Leicester when he took over and what path you need to follow to get good results. Sven made changes, and he will have to make many more to get a good squad going next season, and he must find talent other places than the obvious choices in the Premier League. Nigel Pearson started something at City that was worth working on, and football is about players who progress. Look at Leeds, Cardiff and Norwich, who are slowly buiding a team for the future, a solid foundation for a promotion push. Paul Lambert and Simon Grayson (now in charge of Norwich and Leeds) both played under a man we all know well at Leicester, and they are getting results with the same formula. Martin O'Neill was manager for Lambert at Celtic and Grayson at Leicester. Reserve team players in the Premier League is no gods, and they have a learning curve as well. When Martin O'Neill started his Leicester career he added Claridge, Izzet and Lennon. All players who where not the best stars. One from the Chelsea reserves (on loan), one from Crewe and one strange carachter from Birmingham City. He later found great talent in Elliott (Oxford), Guppy (Port Vale) and turned them into proven internationals. Robbie Savage was signed from Crewe and Gilchrist was another signing from Oxford, all of them coped well in the Premier League fitting in well. Top might have great financial strength, but Sven knows better than any other, that this push for promotion will put him back on square one. He will not be able to sign players this summer for £ 10 to £ 20 million, and he needs to build a team on his current group of players. Weale, Ricardo, Logan Neilson, O'Neill, Tunchev, Samba, Berner, Kennedy, Parkes, Hobbs Wellens, King, Dyer, N'Guessan, Moussa, Oakley, Verma, Abe Vassell, Howard, Chambers, Gallagher, Waghorn Hopefully Sven can show his players that he believes in them, footballers are human, and so far Mr Sven has shown very few of this crop that they have a future at the club. King, Bamba and Wellens are the only three that Sven has given his full backing, the rest can be uncertain about their future at the club. I am not against loan signigns and they should be part of a Championship squad, but can not be the backbound of the team and will never be. Sven is known for building football teams, and bringing results with players that he gives full backing. This season has shown a change in his way of work and he has shown that he doesn't believe in the players he send out on loan and the once that have been left out. So far nothing has happened at Leicester under Sven, and no one can see a long term team plan. I believe the real picture is like this, and Sven is thinking The current crop of players are not good enough, I must get them out, maybe one or two can stay but the rest is not good enough He said that he wanted to build on what was at the club, so far he has shown the total opposite, only two (King and Wellens) are good enough to be certain in the team Let players go out on loan to save wages Fryatt was sold to get more money to pay wages for loan stars We need stars for the sake of names and not for the sake of football, why on earth was Beckham, Owen and Henry linked, because they were contacted. Naivity to believe that the name of Sven was enough to lure players of that calibre to join Leicester City. Top wants a quick fix to get into the Premier League, remember a certain Mandaric that also wanted a quick fix and we all know what happened Ian Holloway took us down, was terrified and under pressure he couldn't handle, he got a job at Blackpool, and promoted a team no one believed would ever be playing in the Premier League Sven is under pressure, he has not managed to reach his goal, and what he will do next season to get us up in the Premier League is not easy to see, but I still believe that Sven is the right man and that he can take us up, but he must believe in what is available and not just hunt for those who everyone knows are good footballers. The poster players, are not what City needs at this moment. No one can be disapointed with the fact that City still are in the Championship, and no one believed Sven when he said it was possible to reach a promotion spot, but still he said that was his goal when he was appointed, judge me by Christmas he said. I feel that Sven has done what he could, but I am a bit worried about next season and the fact that he loaned out so many of the players he had and that he has not given one thought about building a team, but just worked under one main goal to reach the play off's and get us promoted. i hope that he will succeed and manage to get us up, but I am a bit uncertain with the strategy used so far. I am also a bit riddled that this strategy is used by Sven, since he has been a manager, who I believed would do things different. But he might have understood that getting stars to play in the Championship is difficult. He managed to sign Davies and Yakubu, Davies left and Yakubu has not managed to bring us the goals needed to be a team fighting for a play-off push. I certainly hope that what we saw under Pearson, a build of a team, also can be seen under Sven, and hopefully two or three top loan signings can peak this, then we are on to something we all believe will be working for us. Mee, Naughton, Yakubu, Bruma, Van Aanholt, Kamara and Vitor are all loan signings. Moreno and Lamey looks totally out of the picture, Waghorn has not been first choice this season, Fryatt and Morrison are gone, Hobbs is loaned out. Tunchev is far from fully match fit. Weale was first left out, gloves given to Ricardo, then Weale returned and has not been able to show steady form. This is not the kind of office I would describe as steady, under controll, bringing forward continuity, it looks more like a total mess, without no real strategy at all. So Sven has a job to do and the summer is short, very short. Football is more than just filling a team with players, signing them on loan for a month or two, it's more to team building than that. Sven has used so many players that you wonder what is going on, and what he is up to. Sven has fielded more than 35 players this season, and I can't see the reason for that. I just hope that we will get everything on track from next season and still believe that Sven is the man to carry this out, but owners, money and other ideas could spoil everything again, why on earth should I be a Leicester City fan and experience all this when I first became one in the 1972-73 season and experienced the thrill of watching the team build by Jimmy Bloomfield. I still believe that this the way forward in football and if you are where Leicester are today, don't have patience and gambles with long term thoughts, you will get punished hard, as we have seen since a certain Martin O'Neill left the building.
Haydos Posted 23 April 2011 Posted 23 April 2011 For all that writing, you've not actually said much. Most will admit Sven made mistakes with regards to the defence and it could be argue that this lead to our downfall. I think Dave has overlooked something for once and been a bit lenient on Sven. He messed with the defence and the results are for all to see but apart from that Dave has generally hit the nail on the head, there wasn't much he could do once he started fiddling with it and he couldn't fix it. And ivarti, our centre back is called Bamba not 'Samba'
Corky Posted 23 April 2011 Posted 23 April 2011 Positives- We are passing the ball well. Oakley and Gallagher seem to have improved rapidly. Home form is solid. Negatives- Soft centre away from home. Constant changing of defence. Concede far too many.
ivarti Posted 23 April 2011 Author Posted 23 April 2011 For all that writing, you've not actually said much. Most will admit Sven made mistakes with regards to the defence and it could be argue that this lead to our downfall. I think Dave has overlooked something for once and been a bit lenient on Sven. He messed with the defence and the results are for all to see but apart from that Dave has generally hit the nail on the head, there wasn't much he could do once he started fiddling with it and he couldn't fix it. And ivarti, our centre back is called Bamba not 'Samba' If you believe using 35 players or more every season will give City success, then you don't know what this game is all about. Sven is under pressure and he is acting like it. The squad is in a mess and Sven has messed around with more than the defence. Let's hope he will find a solution fast.
Haydos Posted 23 April 2011 Posted 23 April 2011 If you believe using 35 players or more every season will give City success, then you don't know what this game is all about. Sven is under pressure and he is acting like it. The squad is in a mess, it's a vulture culture, and Sven has messed around with more than the defence. Let's hope he will find a solution fast. I don't think that's the way forward, no. But I do think it was the best option this season (apart from re-shuffling a performing back line). I understand what you're saying but I just wish people would wait until the summer before dismissing all hope of this club ever moving forward. Fair enough if that's what you predict for the immediate future of this club and I'll be the first to question what has gone wrong if what we want doesn't happen in the summer but I'm not going to start hate campaigns for someone who hasn't had a chance to make their own mark on the club.
cc_star Posted 24 April 2011 Posted 24 April 2011 I don't think that's the way forward, no. But I do think it was the best option this season (apart from re-shuffling a performing back line). I understand what you're saying but I just wish people would wait until the summer before dismissing all hope of this club ever moving forward. Fair enough if that's what you predict for the immediate future of this club and I'll be the first to question what has gone wrong if what we want doesn't happen in the summer but I'm not going to start hate campaigns for someone who hasn't had a chance to make their own mark on the club. wah? He's been here 6 or so months, shipped a few players out and brought in more than anyone else in the division (12 I think!!!) Greg Cunningham, Kyle Naughton, Curtis Davies, Ben Mee, Darius Vassell, Chris Kirkland, Roman Bednar, Yakubu, Patrick Van Aanholt, Ricardo Pereira, Jeffrey Bruma and Diomansy Kamara If that's not making a mark I don't know what is and for what? as like I've said elsewhere if the season started the day Sven came in, (discounting the Sousa nightmare) we'd still be a few places outside the playoffs. He certainly needs a summer, but if the past half a year is anything to go by success is far from a cert, but one things for sure it will be exciting and for my money will result in promotion-in-style or bankruptcy I can't see anything in-between ----------------------- For me: Positives: Is a big name to attract bigger name players, which is exciting For me, surprisingly interested in flair football A big improvement on Sousa If no one tackles or presses us, we look like the best team in the world (Derby 1st half) Negatives: Adding some organisation could have seen us rise to our current mid-table position, without signing too many players, which unhinged us Thinks the best individuals make the best team & apart from an 8 game run out of his 33 the mix never looked right Signed too many players in a hap-hazzard fashion Shows zero coaching ability, game after game the same collective errors are being made Clueless at defending Our 'shape' (which is a management/coaching issue) is utter crap when the opponents have the ball, a fact unchanged in 6 months & 12 signings Picks his faves, regardless of their atrocious form (Bruma, Yak & for a long time Vassell) Dropped players at the height of their form (Weale, Vitor & Mee) Naive. Thought a collection of teenagers would provide a formidable Championship defence. Naive. Thought Premier league benchwarmers & inexperienced teenagers would make a better team than a highly motivated, well coached, enthusiastic one Unwilling to change his system even though its not worked for over 2 months! As many misses as hits from his many, many signings Is himself very expensive for this level of football
eaststandtom Posted 24 April 2011 Posted 24 April 2011 in reality, when new managers come to clubs, things are going to take time. it used to be 2,3 years before the groundwork they'd have been doing would come to the forefront (alex ferguson?). so, sven is, relatively speaking, 5 minutes in the job. however, it is the modern age in football and less than 6 months, as we know, is all a football manager needs one way or another before he is judged. however, when sven started and we were bottom if someone would've said we'd be within touching distance of the play offs even with sven at the helm i wouldve doubted it seriously. I think sven has taken a disjointed team that was struggling badly and made them a good outfit albeit still a disjointed one. i am looking forward to seeing sven get a good team together but a settled one and hope that that'll be the difference next season. i'm not gonna blame loanees for us faultering. i think svens defensive changes have cost us but guys like ben mee and miguel vitor i feel are quality players (would think a fit miguel vitor wouldve picked himself this season) and guys like that can only improve the team. just keep it settled sven!
sphericalfox Posted 24 April 2011 Posted 24 April 2011 wah? He's been here 6 or so months, shipped a few players out and brought in more than anyone else in the division (12 I think!!!) Greg Cunningham, Kyle Naughton, Curtis Davies, Ben Mee, Darius Vassell, Chris Kirkland, Roman Bednar, Yakubu, Patrick Van Aanholt, Ricardo Pereira, Jeffrey Bruma and Diomansy Kamara If that's not making a mark I don't know what is and for what? as like I've said elsewhere if the season started the day Sven came in, (discounting the Sousa nightmare) we'd still be a few places outside the playoffs. He certainly needs a summer, but if the past half a year is anything to go by success is far from a cert, but one things for sure it will be exciting and for my money will result in promotion-in-style or bankruptcy I can't see anything in-between ----------------------- For me: Positives: Is a big name to attract bigger name players, which is exciting For me, surprisingly interested in flair football A big improvement on Sousa If no one tackles or presses us, we look like the best team in the world (Derby 1st half) Negatives: Adding some organisation could have seen us rise to our current mid-table position, without signing too many players, which unhinged us Thinks the best individuals make the best team & apart from an 8 game run out of his 33 the mix never looked right Signed too many players in a hap-hazzard fashion Shows zero coaching ability, game after game the same collective errors are being made Clueless at defending Our 'shape' (which is a management/coaching issue) is utter crap when the opponents have the ball, a fact unchanged in 6 months & 12 signings Picks his faves, regardless of their atrocious form (Bruma, Yak & for a long time Vassell) Dropped players at the height of their form (Weale, Vitor & Mee) Naive. Thought a collection of teenagers would provide a formidable Championship defence. Naive. Thought Premier league benchwarmers & inexperienced teenagers would make a better team than a highly motivated, well coached, enthusiastic one Unwilling to change his system even though its not worked for over 2 months! As many misses as hits from his many, many signings Is himself very expensive for this level of football SHOCK! HORROR! CC_STAR manages to to come up with some positives, though two of them are blatantly backhanded!
Haydos Posted 24 April 2011 Posted 24 April 2011 wah? He's been here 6 or so months, shipped a few players out and brought in more than anyone else in the division (12 I think!!!) Greg Cunningham, Kyle Naughton, Curtis Davies, Ben Mee, Darius Vassell, Chris Kirkland, Roman Bednar, Yakubu, Patrick Van Aanholt, Ricardo Pereira, Jeffrey Bruma and Diomansy Kamara If that's not making a mark I don't know what is and for what? as like I've said elsewhere if the season started the day Sven came in, (discounting the Sousa nightmare) we'd still be a few places outside the playoffs. He certainly needs a summer, but if the past half a year is anything to go by success is far from a cert, but one things for sure it will be exciting and for my money will result in promotion-in-style or bankruptcy I can't see anything in-between ----------------------- For me: Positives: Is a big name to attract bigger name players, which is exciting For me, surprisingly interested in flair football A big improvement on Sousa If no one tackles or presses us, we look like the best team in the world (Derby 1st half) Negatives: Adding some organisation could have seen us rise to our current mid-table position, without signing too many players, which unhinged us Thinks the best individuals make the best team & apart from an 8 game run out of his 33 the mix never looked right Signed too many players in a hap-hazzard fashion Shows zero coaching ability, game after game the same collective errors are being made Clueless at defending Our 'shape' (which is a management/coaching issue) is utter crap when the opponents have the ball, a fact unchanged in 6 months & 12 signings Picks his faves, regardless of their atrocious form (Bruma, Yak & for a long time Vassell) Dropped players at the height of their form (Weale, Vitor & Mee) Naive. Thought a collection of teenagers would provide a formidable Championship defence. Naive. Thought Premier league benchwarmers & inexperienced teenagers would make a better team than a highly motivated, well coached, enthusiastic one Unwilling to change his system even though its not worked for over 2 months! As many misses as hits from his many, many signings Is himself very expensive for this level of football I don't know how to make this any clearer and I am by no way condoning mistakes he's made. The highlighted in bold again goes back to my main point: Gamled on talent. I'm quite happy to discuss this but half of your negative points are the same things whereas you've clearly skimped on the positives. I also don't think several of them are indicative of his policy, only what he chose to do this season. I think and hope it will be different come August.
Guest Posted 24 April 2011 Posted 24 April 2011 How can this thread be described as Objective. Surely all the views are subjective.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 24 April 2011 Posted 24 April 2011 POSITIVES 1) We now have an international calibre manager, this cannot be anyting but positive 2) Our style of play has become more progressive, entertaining, and with time i believe we will be succesful 3) Steadied the ship after an extremely poor start and got us to within touching distance of the playoffs 4) Has injected a focus and intensity to training lacking under Sousa 5) Has made our club a much more attractive proposition for potential signings 6) Has built our scouting network on the basis of his contacts NEGATIVES 1) Staunchly loyal to 'his' players to the detriment of players in good form or more 'natural' choices in various positions 2) Tends to fit players into a system rather than picking the best system regardless of individuals 3) Somewhat tactically unadaptable for when games call for a different approach 4) Questionable transfer dealings and strategy for signing players. A high turnover of loans, some successful, some not 5) Has chopped and changed the team more frequently than has been necessary, damaging continuity good post
Brown Fox Posted 24 April 2011 Posted 24 April 2011 Objective opinions (as usual): Positive: * for a bloke of his age Sven seems to have done very well for totty.. fair play to him for that * Mee, Naughton and especially Cunningham are good young players * He gets on well with the Thais * We had a very good run mid-season * When its good its VERY good eg. Burnley * He appears to have got Oakley playing well Negative: * when we are losing we don't usually look like we can come back and win * I don't want him to sign older journeymen, unless they are of the right mentality * Defensively we have gone to pieces * Our current form represents the worst in the division * I don't get Bruma and I'm not sure on Bamba * I question his motivational skills, IF his interviews are like his team-talks There, 6 a piece... objective and more importantly, balanced Wow I actually agree with you mostly!! The motivational skills thing I think we all know he's not great at it so Faz is the man to do it. Also Pearsons interviews were awfully boring but his motivational skills were never questioned. Also the Bamba bit. When he was at RCB in our amazing run along side Mee he was genuinelly unbelievable. And no my view has not been affected by his early goal scoring exploits. He really was solid. Won all his headers and made tackles all over the pitch as well as making runs up and down the pitch. He lived on the edge a bit but I always felt confident with him on the ball. But he's been well below par at LCB I will admit. But I think people are just going over the top on thinking hes awful now that he's been played out of position.
Guest Col city fan Posted 24 April 2011 Posted 24 April 2011 Wow I actually agree with you mostly!! The motivational skills thing I think we all know he's not great at it so Faz is the man to do it. Also Pearsons interviews were awfully boring but his motivational skills were never questioned. Also the Bamba bit. When he was at RCB in our amazing run along side Mee he was genuinelly unbelievable. And no my view has not been affected by his early goal scoring exploits. He really was solid. Won all his headers and made tackles all over the pitch as well as making runs up and down the pitch. He lived on the edge a bit but I always felt confident with him on the ball. But he's been well below par at LCB I will admit. But I think people are just going over the top on thinking hes awful now that he's been played out of position. Don't sound so surprised.. On the Bamba thing I reckon he'll be fine if he's alongside a defensive leader.. I don't think Bamba sorts out the defence but will be good with someone who does that for him.. Unfortunately we don't yet have such a player.. With any luck getting some leaders on the pitch will be priority one in the close season
Haydos Posted 24 April 2011 Posted 24 April 2011 Don't sound so surprised.. On the Bamba thing I reckon he'll be fine if he's alongside a defensive leader.. I don't think Bamba sorts out the defence but will be good with someone who does that for him.. Unfortunately we don't yet have such a player.. With any luck getting some leaders on the pitch will be priority one in the close season I like the prospect of Mee and at first glance he appears to be attainable from Man City but that partnership for next season would still be a bit of a worry for me. I wouldn't mind Mee at left back though if we brought in a more commanding centre half.
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