Atmosphere or success

[funkyrobot]

If ticket prices were cheaper then more people would attend. This in turn would create a better atmosphere. Also if the game say only cost £10 to get in then people wouldn't be quite as pissed off with a bad game. It's when you've splashed out £30+ on a game and they play badly that really annoys and creates a worse atmosphere.

[Les-TA-Jon]

Is there any evidence of a direct correlation between success and atmosphere? In any combination?

Success = Good Atmosphere?

Good Atmosphere = Success?

now would you sacrifice 10,000 people at the walkers next season for a very successful season or would you rather have a stadium pack to the rafters and be mid-table.

Since when are the two mutally exclusive?

[Corky]

Forest don't sell out every week, despite being a FAMOUS TEAM.

[Earlydoorsjones]

I think I know what the chap that started this thread off is trying to conjecture, but I don't think that it is an either or situation - or at least it wasn't in the past.

First and foremost, we don't sing songs like we used to - proper songs, songs with more than 15 different words.

"There's a circus in the town..." and "Hark now hear the Leicester sing..." two of my particular favourites, whereas "...du du du du du Matty Fryatt..." or "Stand up if you love Leicester..." seem to be the type of singing done in football today.

The end of real atmosphere at football matches is directly connected to sitting down - you need to be on your feet, or better still, being carried away with the surge of the crowd in order to feel really excited.

In days past, football was a managed risk assessment. That is why it was fun.

It is too sanitised now - gone too far the other way.

All Clubs have reduced the manageable risk at football matches because, with almost prophetic insight, as Roy Keane realised, the prawn sambo brigade will pay in excess of £25 per ticket - even for second or third tier football.

I went to watch Exeter City with my brother in law recently and could not believe the entrance fee for their Anderson shelter.

Look about you when next down the Walkers, there are far more Double Decker or North Stand type fans than Pen 2 or East Stand fans supporting the club today - no criticism, just an observation.

...We have had relative 'success' and had larger crowds (23 thousand) at the Walkers yet the atmosphere is nothing like Filbert Street with 18 odd thousand - winning or loosing.

I have been to watch the City at all stages of success and atmosphere or attendance have been unaccountable variables at times.

Atmosphere can be improved with the accumulated feeling of the fans over time, but I hate those incentives or strategies that the Club introduces to improve the experience at matches - give us some bloody seats, not a new pop song or sodding drum.

What makes the difference is not success or attendance - what matters is the culture that the Club encourages within the stadium. This is why I have so much hope for the future of our club in supporters like the Fosse Boys.

And I would never choose success over atmosphere - it would be a very short term success if anyone did. Within 50 years, football would be the reserve of television viewers if we ever did compromise on that.

p.s. I have sat in the Double Decker and I have had a prawn sandwich (just not at the football) and I would sing if we had some more decent songs.

[lestajigs]

How many times have the forest wankers sold out this season?????? Not many

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

'a ghost stadium'

!

[lestajigs]

I think I know what the chap that started this thread off is trying to conjecture, but I don't think that it is an either or situation - or at least it wasn't in the past.

First and foremost, we don't sing songs like we used to - proper songs, songs with more than 15 different words.

"There's a circus in the town..." and "Hark now hear the Leicester sing..." two of my particular favourites, whereas "...du du du du du Matty Fryatt..." or "Stand up if you love Leicester..." seem to be the type of singing done in football today.

The end of real atmosphere at football matches is directly connected to sitting down - you need to be on your feet, or better still, being carried away with the surge of the crowd in order to feel really excited.

In days past, football was a managed risk assessment. That is why it was fun.

It is too sanitised now - gone too far the other way.

All Clubs have reduced the manageable risk at football matches because, with almost prophetic insight, as Roy Keane realised, the prawn sambo brigade will pay in excess of £25 per ticket - even for second or third tier football.

I went to watch Exeter City with my brother in law recently and could not believe the entrance fee for their Anderson shelter.

Look about you when next down the Walkers, there are far more Double Decker or North Stand type fans than Pen 2 or East Stand fans supporting the club today - no criticism, just an observation.

...We have had relative 'success' and had larger crowds (23 thousand) at the Walkers yet the atmosphere is nothing like Filbert Street with 18 odd thousand - winning or loosing.

I have been to watch the City at all stages of success and atmosphere or attendance have been unaccountable

variables at times.

Atmosphere can be improved with the accumulated feeling of the fans over time, but I hate those incentives or strategies that the Club introduces to improve the experience at matches - give us some bloody seats, not a new pop song or sodding drum.

What makes the difference is not success or attendance - what matters is the culture that the Club encourages within the stadium. This is why I have so much hope for the future of our club in supporters like the Fosse Boys.

And I would never choose success over atmosphere - it would be a very short term success if anyone did. Within

50 years, football would be the reserve of television viewers if we ever did compromise on that.

p.s. I have sat in the Double Decker and I have had a prawn sandwich (just not at the football) and I would sing if we had some more decent songs.

Great post mate