Kitchandro Posted 7 December 2011 Posted 7 December 2011 It's mental how the Germans can all do it so freely, such envy. And yet if it wasn't for us how ironic
leicesterseddon Posted 7 December 2011 Posted 7 December 2011 That's the other thing, we're not actually that great away. Numbers wise we're very good but the atmosphere is rarely brilliant. We have a song book of about 5-6 songs which we repeat all game and unless the home fans are in good voice and we engage in their 'banter' then it's all a bit dull. A number of things would have to happen at the KP for us to generate a decent atmosphere which most have been mentioned, though I think the main two are: 1. Don't have dance music at full blast right up until Kick Off - you don't get any build up of atmosphere and kills it instantly. 2. Switch the Kop and Family Stand I think the whole 'switch the family stand' argument is a bit redundant to be honest. I mean, if that many people who currently sit in the 'Kop' genuinely wanted to be closer to the away fans for the sake of improving the atmosphere, then they'd just move. I'm not sure what changing the names of the stands would actually achieve, to be honest. The fact is, the overwhelming majority of people who sit down in the Kop and don't sing do so because...erm, they want to sit down during the game and aren't inclined to sing. I'm afraid that's the reality - that relatively few people in the crowd actually do want to make the effort. I agree the club have hardly helped, but comparatively speaking we just have a very apathetic home crowd at the moment - that's the root cause. The names of the stands, the design of the ground and all this sort of stuff don't actually prevent people from singing, at the end of the day.
Dan Posted 7 December 2011 Posted 7 December 2011 If that's their mentality, then why exactly are they in the Kop?
Kitchandro Posted 7 December 2011 Posted 7 December 2011 I think the whole 'switch the family stand' argument is a bit redundant to be honest. I mean, if that many people who currently sit in the 'Kop' genuinely wanted to be closer to the away fans for the sake of improving the atmosphere, then they'd just move. I'm not sure what changing the names of the stands would actually achieve, to be honest. The fact is, the overwhelming majority of people who sit down in the Kop and don't sing do so because...erm, they want to sit down during the game and aren't inclined to sing. I'm afraid that's the reality - that relatively few people in the crowd actually do want to make the effort. I agree the club have hardly helped, but comparatively speaking we just have a very apathetic home crowd at the moment - that's the root cause. The names of the stands, the design of the ground and all this sort of stuff don't actually prevent people from singing, at the end of the day. Agreed. I think a lot of 'singers' are being priced out and put off though tbf. Young people (as in teenage lads) are being ripped off and younger than that they are impressionable and it isn't exactly an irresistable call to go and see Leicester unless they have influence from family members or close friends. Without trying to be stereotypical working class men between the ages of15-45 are the most likely to sing at the football and it's a real shame that we are putting these people off or making it so they can't afford to go. Families and OAPs get a good deal and that's why there is a high proportion of them and that equals a poorer atmosphere.
1964FOX Posted 7 December 2011 Posted 7 December 2011 It is purely about the numbers of people wanting to sing, at present there's not enough anywhere in the stadium other than L block. The only solution, as others suggest, are for like minded people to group together. The club (or a certain person with influence) does everything they can to stifle any attempt to do it though. The Fosse Bos proved that and as soon as the numbers dwindled they had won. We now have two areas of standing fans and this is only allowed due to the fact there are too many doing it to safely manage it and make them sit down. If any future attempt to create atmosphere is to be successful it would require in the region of at least 100 fans to get it going and maintain it. This the greatest problem keeping that kindof number attending long enough to encourage more. I agree the Kop should be next to the away fans but it ain't happening, you can't even get a ticket next to the away fans. I was at the store today and a lady was buying a family discount ticket for Peterborough for two adults and two kids, she asked to be next to the away fans and was told by the assistant that he could not sell spaces in the block immediately next to the away fans, so even families are considered a potential danger to cause unrest.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 7 December 2011 Posted 7 December 2011 Ok, here is how you sing it, well it's the way I remember it in the late 60's and 70's anyway. Remember, do it SLOWLY- IT IS NOT A RACE When you're smiling When you're smiling The whole world smiles with you When you're laughing When you're laughing The sun comes shining through But when you're crying You bring on the rain So stop your sighing Be happy again Cause when you're smiling, when you're smiling The whole world smiles with you, (La la, la la la - this is sung slowly with slow waving of Max Bygraves style hand waving, also known as Jazz hands - ask someone if not sure) The whole world smiles with you, (La la, la la la - as above) The Whole (slight pause while hands go up then down) World (slight pause while hands go up then down) Smiles (slight pause while hands go up then down) With Yooouuu ( both hands up doing Jazz hands) Oh and one last thing, DON'T LET THAT FAT DRUMMER JOIN IN This - brings back some good memories, come on lets get it going again
BrummieFOX Posted 7 December 2011 Posted 7 December 2011 It is purely about the numbers of people wanting to sing, at present there's not enough anywhere in the stadium other than L block. The only solution, as others suggest, are for like minded people to group together. The club (or a certain person with influence) does everything they can to stifle any attempt to do it though. The Fosse Bos proved that and as soon as the numbers dwindled they had won. I really don't think it is. We have without doubt enough people who want to sing to create a good atmosphere, the main problem though as you mentioned laster in your post is that they aren't all sat together and are diluted by those who don't want to sing.
CountesthorpeFox Posted 7 December 2011 Posted 7 December 2011 Absolutely top posts from Manchester Fox and MattP. Can't add anything to MF's, absolutely spot on. MattP, I hate to have to agree there. That's the difference for me, our club you can blame a lot for our lack of atmosphere too. I don't know who's behind it or whatever but your best evidence is the Fosse Boys - love them or hate them, they were treated like absolute cvnts by our club and for what? Trying to create an atmosphere. Whilst they continue to employ the likes of Kevin Barclay, nothing will change in favour of it, I wish we had Palace's club at times where it seems they're allowed to stand in decent numbers and create an atmosphere without any trouble. Seems to have done their support the world of good. I realise we are taking this further off topic but - What did the club say/do to the fosse boys? I remember there being some unhappy noises a while ago now but for the life of me I cant exactly rememeber what happened/what was said? Was it just the club saying they weren't allowed to stand?
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