The Class System

[Webbo]

It's often said that the British are obsessed with class but in all the years I've been on here I can't remember a thread about.

What class do you belong to?

How do you define which class you're in, are you born into it or can you change, up or down?

How important is it to you or the country in general?

[MooseBreath]

There might not have been a direct thread on it, but it's woven throughout lots and lots of conversations on here and everywhere in the UK.

I would consider myself upper working with lower middle ambitions. I doubt there are many people on here much higher than that tbh.

[THEFATBASTARD]

I note ,no category for me.. aristocracy, typical, we are always discriminated against. fascist !

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Webbo, as you are from Syston "Birthday Boy" are you in the middle class section?

[I am Rod Hull]

I have no class, so the mrs says.

[1964FOX]

Working class all the way for me although I live in a middle class area and have a middle class job. Can't escape my working class upbringing and would not want to.

I have no issue with people form any class who are comfortable with who they are. The peope who bug me and are, in my experience, the most 'classist' are social climbing types who try to move up the classes and act snobbish/ ignorant to those they percieve to be beneath them.

[Daggers]

People who still think of things in terms of historic class tiers haven't understood the game.

[Webbo]

Webbo, as you are from Syston "Birthday Boy" are you in the middle class section?

You've obviously not visited Syston recently

Although I do a blue collar job and don't earn a great deal of money I've never lived in council/rented accommodation so I suppose that makes me upper working class.

I am proud to be working class although I can't think of a good reason why. It's bragging that your dad had a worse job than somebody else's.It doesn't make you a better, more worthy person than anybody else. I can get a bit chippy about it sometimes though.

Class does still have some effect in this country but it's not a fraction of how it used to be.

[davieG]

What defines you as being in one class rather than another, I don't feel tuned in to any of them.

If you are 'born into' a class are you always in that class until you pass on?

[I am Rod Hull]

People who still think of things in terms of historic class tiers haven't understood the game.

I want to know what distinguishes the upper from the lower working classes, pretentious folly.....

[Webbo]

What defines you as being in one class rather than another, I don't feel tuned in to any of them.

If you are 'born into' a class are you always in that class until you pass on?

I want to know what distinguishes the upper from the lower working classes, pretentious folly or a big screen TV?

That's what I'm asking. One person's definition is as good as another's.

[Daggers]

I want to know what distinguishes the upper from the lower working classes

Size of Xmas decoration electricity bill.

[1964FOX]

I want to know what distinguishes the upper from the lower working classes, pretentious folly or a big screen TV?

I have always seen it as working class, middle class and upper class. That's it.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=the%20frost%20report%20class%20sketch&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CFoQtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DQftCra8q2o4&ei=WFkVUNPSOcjQ0QXhlYDoCw&usg=AFQjCNEAZ_8nxg3qV7fwyXMFpnoXLmBAVA

[Zingari]

Never worked or paid taxes and lived on state handouts and I believe the system owes me the lavish lifestyle I enjoy.

I suppose that makes me upper class

[I am Rod Hull]

Never worked or paid taxes and lived on state handouts and I believe the system owes me the lavish lifestyle I enjoy.

I suppose that makes me upper class

You have to have a double barreled name to be upper class.

[Zingari]

You have to have a double barreled name to be upper class.

Shoot that insolent peasant Creichton !!

[Saxondale]

Well the definitions are totally clear, but about 60 years out of date.

Quite simply, you are working class if you have a manual job and middle class if you have a white collar job. This made sense in the early 20th century and before, when most people worked in manual jobs and lived in terraced houses, while the managers and professional - the middle class - earned more money and lived in detached houses.

The definitions are completely irrelevant nowadays, as many manual workers earn very good salaries while a lot of lowered-paid workers (call centres and all that shite) would be technically categorised as middle class.

[I am Rod Hull]

"But I dont work"

[MooseBreath]

Main differences between the bottom four are employment, level of education and where you live. What your parents did is also important.

Your typical semi-professional white collar or skilled blue collar worker who lives in and around Leicester is going to be upper working to lower middle.

[MooseBreath]

Well the definitions are totally clear, but about 60 years out of date.

Quite simply, you are working class if you have a manual job and middle class if you have a white collar job. This made sense in the early 20th century and before, when most people worked in manual jobs and lived in terraced houses, while the managers and professional - the middle class - earned more money and lived in detached houses.

The definitions are completely irrelevant nowadays, as many manual workers earn very good salaries while a lot of lowered-paid workers (call centres and all that shite) would be technically categorised as middle class.

There are no standard definitions, but informal definitions moved on from what you've described here quite a while ago and are always changing. Call centre workers are considered lower working or upper working dependant on specific role, education, upbringing etc

[ADK]

There is no class system.

[acooling08]

I see me and my family as lower middle class.

[Zingari]

There is no class system.

Don't you believe it , It's real it's alive and very much part of society .

You can of course deny it's existence , or pretend it's not there.

[I am Rod Hull]

What is the well educated son of a doctor that decides to be a road sweeper "tagged" as?

Wayne Rooney, whats he?

Class my arse....

[Saxondale]

Don't you believe it , It's real it's alive and very much part of society .

You can of course deny it's existence , or pretend it's not there.

Horoscopes are there, but they don't mean anything!