ithuriel Posted 26 August 2012 Share Posted 26 August 2012 Arguing with DT is like having a stand-up row with a 2yr-old in Morrisons. damn, can't win then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He's not bald Posted 26 August 2012 Share Posted 26 August 2012 When you put it like that it does look concerning, however take a look at Reading they had 11 points from 9 league games and were 8 points off the top with ironically Southampton 8 points ahead of them at that stage who they finished ahead of, so it isn't all doom and gloom we can pick up consistency in producing results as we progress through the season, but performances are their so we are half way their only 3 games with another 43 games to go plenty of time. We are not Reading we are Leicester, and this is 2012, all the "got 43 games" wont get the points, if we don't start winning how long will it be before the "got games left" brigade turn into the "mathmatically we still can" or the "if they lose and we win" brigade? trust me we have to start getting 3 points per match on a regular basis or this will be another frustrating season, will probably get slated for saying this (but hey what's new?) Saturday is a must win game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbelladave Posted 27 August 2012 Share Posted 27 August 2012 And this is irrefutably incorrect. If we use Boyles Law, which states then we can see if pressure increases the volume of goals has to decrease. It means that the less pressure we create the number of goals will increase. Whilst Boyle has an excellent grasp of football theory on the macro level, individual games are invariably more easily explained with the application of modern quantum theory...... In reality, the outcome of a game is not determined by the weight of statistical analysis, such as Boyle or even Avagadro's hypothesis, "equal numbers of attempts at goal produce equal numbers of goals", but by careful analysis at the quantum level. At this level, City's attacks were routinely disrupted by a Blackburn side well versed in the application of Heisenberg's Principals as applied to modern defending. In essence, the defenders careful application of these principals resulted in the outcome of the collapsing probability wavefront that represents City's attacks being skewed away from the high probability of a goal being scored to the lower probability of a save being made. Defending in this manner requires a thorough understanding of the Uncertainty Principal and an ability to manipulate quantum probabilities to your own advantage, something our own defence is yet to learn...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozleicester Posted 27 August 2012 Share Posted 27 August 2012 Anybody who chooses to use "Boyles Law, Quantum Theory, or any other mathematical plan " to explain football should first read the following... “It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.†Douglas Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 27 August 2012 Share Posted 27 August 2012 Whilst Boyle has an excellent grasp of football theory on the macro level, individual games are invariably more easily explained with the application of modern quantum theory...... In reality, the outcome of a game is not determined by the weight of statistical analysis, such as Boyle or even Avagadro's hypothesis, "equal numbers of attempts at goal produce equal numbers of goals", but by careful analysis at the quantum level. At this level, City's attacks were routinely disrupted by a Blackburn side well versed in the application of Heisenberg's Principals as applied to modern defending. In essence, the defenders careful application of these principals resulted in the outcome of the collapsing probability wavefront that represents City's attacks being skewed away from the high probability of a goal being scored to the lower probability of a save being made. Defending in this manner requires a thorough understanding of the Uncertainty Principal and an ability to manipulate quantum probabilities to your own advantage, something our own defence is yet to learn...... You always have to over complicate things Dave with your Heisenbergs, 443s and quantum probabilities theories. Listen 442 is not a theory it's been proven to work - FACT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbelladave Posted 27 August 2012 Share Posted 27 August 2012 Anybody who chooses to use "Boyles Law, Quantum Theory, or any other mathematical plan " to explain football should first read the following... “It is known that there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.†Douglas Adams. You always have to over complicate things Dave with your Heisenbergs, 443s and quantum probabilities theories. Listen 442 is not a theory it's been proven to work - FACT! For a non scientist, Douglas Adams has a good sense of the complexity of the Quantum Universe which helped him to make the complete nonsense in the above quote actually sound quite plausible, which of course it is not. In fact reality can be best summed up by the famous quote, "The quantum universe is not only stranger than we think, it is stranger than we can think! (Arther C. Clarke) DavieG's assertion that 4-4-2 has been proven to work is of course quite correct, but the assumption that something that has worked consistently well in past realities will now work in this specific quantum reality is flawed. If his argument was true, ie that football is capable of analysis by any science designed to explain and predict behaviour on the macro level, (physical chemistry or statistics for example) then it would be equally true that the best team on the day will always win. By any normal (macro) measurements of the last two games, possession, territory, attempts on goal, attempts on target, corners etc, etc, City were clearly the 'best' team so should have won, yet we came away with two losses. This proves that conventional (macro) scientific theory simply can not be applied to football matches, so it requires the application of the techniques of Quantum Mechanics to individual (quantum) events to understand what is happening....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seenitall Posted 27 August 2012 Share Posted 27 August 2012 For a non scientist, Douglas Adams has a good sense of the complexity of the Quantum Universe which helped him to make the complete nonsense in the above quote actually sound quite plausible, which of course it is not. In fact reality can be best summed up by the famous quote, "The quantum universe is not only stranger than we think, it is stranger than we can think! (Arther C. Clarke) DavieG's assertion that 4-4-2 has been proven to work is of course quite correct, but the assumption that something that has worked consistently well in past realities will now work in this specific quantum reality is flawed. If his argument was true, ie that football is capable of analysis by any science designed to explain and predict behaviour on the macro level, (physical chemistry or statistics for example) then it would be equally true that the best team on the day will always win. By any normal (macro) measurements of the last two games, possession, territory, attempts on goal, attempts on target, corners etc, etc, City were clearly the 'best' team so should have won, yet we came away with two losses. This proves that conventional (macro) scientific theory simply can not be applied to football matches, so it requires the application of the techniques of Quantum Mechanics to individual (quantum) events to understand what is happening....... Well that was a conversation killer - is this why Dyer is a bit pants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbelladave Posted 27 August 2012 Share Posted 27 August 2012 Well that was a conversation killer - is this why Dyer is a bit pants? Rational argument is often difficult for so many people, it requires a bit of thought and the ability to express views a little more complex than Bxxxxxxd is shit or Nxxxxt is brilliant. Regarding Dyer, the explanation is quite simple and beautifully explained by Quantum mechanics. As we all know, Dyer is a 'high energy' player and like any high energy particle (quanta) his behaviour is very difficult to predict due to his extremely high Heisenberg coeficient. Put simply, this means that when Dyer gains possession the quantum probability wavefront that defines all the possible outcomes is extremely wide with few of the possible outcomes having a high probability of success. This of course is the consequence of the high Heisenberg coefficient which spreads the number of possibilities so that even the most likely (a decent cross for example) is still actually quite a low probability in real terms. Get it....... Sorry, edited for layout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seenitall Posted 27 August 2012 Share Posted 27 August 2012 Rational argument is often difficult for so many people, it requires a bit of thought and the ability to express views a little more complex than Bxxxxxxd is shit or Nxxxxt is brilliant. Regarding Dyer, the explanation is quite simple and beautifully explained by Quantum mechanics. As we all know, Dyer is a 'high energy' player and like any high energy particle (quanta) his behaviour is very difficult to predict due to his extremely high Heisenberg coeficient. Put simply, this means that when Dyer gains possession the quantum probability wavefront that defines all the possible outcomes is extremely wide with few of the possible outcomes having a high probability of success. This of course is the consequence of the high Heisenberg coefficient which spreads the number of possibilities so that even the most likely (a decent cross for example) is still actually quite a low probability in real terms. Get it....... Sorry, edited for layout. So based on Heisenberg, we should get the ball to him as often as possible because he is likely to do something good eventually? No wonder he never managed football teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbelladave Posted 27 August 2012 Share Posted 27 August 2012 So based on Heisenberg, we should get the ball to him as often as possible because he is likely to do something good eventually? No wonder he never managed football teams No, you have it completely arse about face...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockyfox Posted 28 August 2012 Author Share Posted 28 August 2012 Didn't you start a thread some time ago saying we weren't just a good championship team, but a good premiership team? (or words to that effect). Easily carried away aren't you Must say though it's good to see us playing entertaining football, even if results aren't going our way. Hi OzFox I've found the thread. It was entitled 'We are no longer a good Championship team!' and was posted.on 13th Feb 2011 Having read what I said then, I reckon that I made sufficient salient points to justify that view at that particular point in time. There again, you're only as good as your last game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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