GOALS

[Rincewind]

Went on a course yesterday and it continues today. It is called GOALS Gain Opportunities And Living Skills.

It is a course that helps positive thinking about yourself. Don't have time to go through everything but for those that are feeling down and having a shit time try this exercise.

Shut yourself in a room alone with a mirror. Look at yourself straight in the eyes. Then say aloud some positive thoughts about yourself. Think of the achievements you have gained and the achievements you have gained. Do this for up to 30 days. You should according to the book in front of me see a difference.

Negativity is like dragging an anchor around with you. Throw those thoughts into a bin bag. You are better and more worthy than you think.

Now I'm off to the job centre. That could be depressing thought but then again it is one more visit nearer to July when I can take pension credit and say to them stuff your JSA up your backside.

[Alf Bentley]

Went on a course yesterday and it continues today. It is called GOALS Gain Opportunities And Living Skills.

It is a course that helps positive thinking about yourself. Don't have time to go through everything but for those that are feeling down and having a shit time try this exercise.

Shut yourself in a room alone with a mirror. Look at yourself straight in the eyes. Then say aloud some positive thoughts about yourself. Think of the achievements you have gained and the achievements you have gained. Do this for up to 30 days. You should according to the book in front of me see a difference.

Negativity is like dragging an anchor around with you. Throw those thoughts into a bin bag. You are better and more worthy than you think.

Now I'm off to the job centre. That could be depressing thought but then again it is one more visit nearer to July when I can take pension credit and say to them stuff your JSA up your backside.

What if the metaphorical referee wrongly disallows your GOAL or a clumping great metaphorical centre-half hoofs you in the shins or you get arrogant, anticipating your Gained Opportunities and Living Skills, take your eye off the ball and welly it over the crossbar of the metaphorical GOAL....or what if you spend the whole match passing the ball sideways in midfield, congratulating yourself on metaphorical great goals you once scored, as this philosophy seems to suggest... just saying, like....

Positive thinking is good, but needs to be tempered by a little awareness of reality....as I'm sure you're well aware, even if the purveyors of junk psychology are not.

"Work positively from where you are, not where you might have been" is the one that works for me. Pointless thinking about where someone else is or where you might have been if you'd done things differently. "This is where I am....how am I going to either enjoy it or make it better?"

[MooseBreath]

Tried the locked room mirror thing, was ok for a while but there's no way I could have done it for 30 days. I only lasted a few hours before I got too hungry to carry on.

[21st Century Fox]

Tried the locked room mirror thing, was ok for a while but there's no way I could have done it for 30 days. I only lasted a few hours before I got too hungry to carry on.

He forgot to mention you're supposed to brick up the doorway behind you... give it another go.

[Finnegan]

He forgot to mention you're supposed to brick up the doorway behind you... give it another go.

lol

[Rincewind]

What if the metaphorical referee wrongly disallows your GOAL or a clumping great metaphorical centre-half hoofs you in the shins or you get arrogant, anticipating your Gained Opportunities and Living Skills, take your eye off the ball and welly it over the crossbar of the metaphorical GOAL....or what if you spend the whole match passing the ball sideways in midfield, congratulating yourself on metaphorical great goals you once scored, as this philosophy seems to suggest... just saying, like....

Positive thinking is good, but needs to be tempered by a little awareness of reality....as I'm sure you're well aware, even if the purveyors of junk psychology are not.

"Work positively from where you are, not where you might have been" is the one that works for me. Pointless thinking about where someone else is or where you might have been if you'd done things differently. "This is where I am....how am I going to either enjoy it or make it better?"

I think you misunderstood. The point of the course was to set goals and be positive about yourself.

Take Lamby for instance. He wants top work in an office but refuses to take a job 'In the meantime' until he reaches what he wants to do.

85% of job opportunities arise from not advertising. That is word of mouth, friends relations and knocking or phoning up places. It costs £800 plus to put job adverts in papers.

They told the story of a bloke who wanted to own a garage/repairshop but never had the money so he took a job in a warehouse progressed to a job in the yard with the lorries and eventually got his garage. It's all down to perseverance.

Anyway I now have a certificate to say I completed the course and at the moment feel more confident and better about myself.

The point about the mirror is that it can spur you on to reach a goal that you set yourself instead of complaining that you cannot do something because its someones else fault.

[Rincewind]

The Guy in the Glass

by Dale Wimbrow, © 1934

When you get what you want in your struggle for pelf,

And the world makes you King for a day,

Then go to the mirror and look at yourself,

And see what that guy has to say.

For it isn't your Father, or Mother, or Wife,

Who judgement upon you must pass.

The feller whose verdict counts most in your life

Is the guy staring back from the glass.

He's the feller to please, never mind all the rest,

For he's with you clear up to the end,

And you've passed your most dangerous, difficult test

If the guy in the glass is your friend.

You may be like Jack Horner and "chisel" a plum,

And think you're a wonderful guy,

But the man in the glass says you're only a bum

If you can't look him straight in the eye.

You can fool the whole world down the pathway of years,

And get pats on the back as you pass,

But your final reward will be heartaches and tears

If you've cheated the guy in the glass.

Autobiography in Five Short Chapters

By Portia Nelson

I

I walk down the street.

There is a deep hole in the sidewalk

I fall in.

I am lost ... I am helpless.

It isn't my fault.

It takes me forever to find a way out.

II

I walk down the same street.

There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.

I pretend I don't see it.

I fall in again.

I can't believe I am in the same place

but, it isn't my fault.

It still takes a long time to get out.

III

I walk down the same street.

There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.

I see it is there.

I still fall in ... it's a habit.

my eyes are open

I know where I am.

It is my fault.

I get out immediately.

IV

I walk down the same street.

There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.

I walk around it.

V

I walk down another street.

[Jon the Hat]

Goals? Go Out And Live Sometimes.

[Rincewind]

Yes. That is what it tells you to do amongst other things.

[Guest MattP]

Yes. That is what it tells you to do amongst other things.

Do some people really need to be told that?!

[Rincewind]

Just trying to give help.

[Captain...]

I've been a practitioner of this technique for years now, I have even progressed to an advance level. I don't just look myself in the eye, I kiss my reflection and masturbate furiously. It really works, although at a cost, I am no longer permitted in any fun fair with a house of mirrors.

[Rincewind]

I've been a practitioner of this technique for years now, I have even progressed to an advance level. I don't just look myself in the eye, I kiss my reflection and masturbate furiously. It really works, although at a cost, I am no longer permitted in any fun fair with a house of mirrors.

very funny. Seriously there have been posters on here that have said they have acheived their dreams but had to take a roundabout route and worked hard to get there. The bottom line is if you do not like yourself you could be stuck in a rut for a long time. Also compliments help a lot too.

One exercise we did was to write a list of good things that we notice about the person sitting next to us. The bloke next to me has also been set on at DNO so I know him but what we put down about each other was similar and complimentary.

Another exercise was to write your strengths inside an inner circle then pass the book around the group who wrote their impressions of you in an outer circle. My confidence was boosted by the comments. I feel better about mysel.If you do not have self belief, confidence and like yourself you will not do well at job interviews. That is where a lot of people fail.f

[Captain...]

very funny. Seriously there have been posters on here that have said they have acheived their dreams but had to take a roundabout route and worked hard to get there. The bottom line is if you do not like yourself you could be stuck in a rut for a long time. Also compliments help a lot too.

One exercise we did was to write a list of good things that we notice about the person sitting next to us. The bloke next to me has also been set on at DNO so I know him but what we put down about each other was similar and complimentary.

Another exercise was to write your strengths inside an inner circle then pass the book around the group who wrote their impressions of you in an outer circle. My confidence was boosted by the comments. I feel better about mysel.If you do not have self belief, confidence and like yourself you will not do well at job interviews. That is where a lot of people fail.f

To be honest I've learnt more from the criticism I've received in my life than the praise, that just lead to me getting big headed and arrogant and then I fvcked up massively, but everyone is different.

[Alf Bentley]

I think you misunderstood. The point of the course was to set goals and be positive about yourself.

They told the story of a bloke who wanted to own a garage/repairshop but never had the money so he took a job in a warehouse progressed to a job in the yard with the lorries and eventually got his garage. It's all down to perseverance.

Anyway I now have a certificate to say I completed the course and at the moment feel more confident and better about myself.

The point about the mirror is that it can spur you on to reach a goal that you set yourself instead of complaining that you cannot do something because its someones else fault.

On one level, I feel that I owe you an apology. I am lucky enough to have mainly been a person who didn't need a course in order to feel positive about himself or to set goals for himself, though my record is better on the former than the latter, to be fair! However, it was extremely arrogant and insensitive of me to forget that people do not always feel secure about themselves; indeed I was in that position as a teenager 30-35 years ago. I am lucky not to have undergone insecurity or depression in the intervening period and overlooked the fact that people with such problems might benefit from morale-boosting courses. I apologise for my insensitivity and complacency.

On the other hand, much as it pains me to promote an insensitive reactionary, I've just given Jon the Hat a "+1" for his comment ("Goals: Go Out And Live Sometimes"). For those people who are not suffering from depression or debilitating insecurity, this is extremely good advice...which most people shouldn't need.

I'm sorry, Rincewind, but I can just imagine the professional purveyors of this psycho-guff sitting down to find words beginning G-O-A-L-S to fit their slogan, with no attention to substance or what it might mean to people genuinely in need of help. Were such concepts really invented by people who cared about others? I doubt it.

Your closing quote is excellent though ("complaining that you cannot do something because it's someone else's fault")... you've met my brother, haven't you?! Admit it!

[Rincewind]

On one level, I feel that I owe you an apology. I am lucky enough to have mainly been a person who didn't need a course in order to feel positive about himself or to set goals for himself, though my record is better on the former than the latter, to be fair! However, it was extremely arrogant and insensitive of me to forget that people do not always feel secure about themselves; indeed I was in that position as a teenager 30-35 years ago. I am lucky not to have undergone insecurity or depression in the intervening period and overlooked the fact that people with such problems might benefit from morale-boosting courses. I apologise for my insensitivity and complacency.

On the other hand, much as it pains me to promote an insensitive reactionary, I've just given Jon the Hat a "+1" for his comment ("Goals: Go Out And Live Sometimes"). For those people who are not suffering from depression or debilitating insecurity, this is extremely good advice...which most people shouldn't need.

I'm sorry, Rincewind, but I can just imagine the professional purveyors of this psycho-guff sitting down to find words beginning G-O-A-L-S to fit their slogan, with no attention to substance or what it might mean to people genuinely in need of help. Were such concepts really invented by people who cared about others? I doubt it.

Your closing quote is excellent though ("complaining that you cannot do something because it's someone else's fault")... you've met my brother, haven't you?! Admit it!

Apology accepted but the fact is that this 'psycho-guff' has been proven to work. Not just for the insecure either. Almost everyone needs a little boost at some point in some way. I just thought that for myself and others that were on the course I noticed a difference at the end. We all set a target to achieve something. Whether it will be seen to work for all of us remains to be seen.

[Guest nathan.]

Thinking negative only rots you from within lowering the bodys vibration . No doctor or pharmacy would ever suggest Dimethlytriptamine (DMT) for people going threw a rough patch of life even if it naturally occurs in our bodys and in thousands of plants. People will strongly dissagree but for me and many others was truly amazing.

[Captain...]

Thinking negative only rots you from within lowering the bodys vibration . No doctor or pharmacy would ever suggest Dimethlytriptamine (DMT) for people going threw a rough patch of life even if it naturally occurs in our bodys and in thousands of plants. People will strongly dissagree but for me and many others was truly amazing.

Personally I would never agree with drugs, even naturally occurring ones, because it develops a dependency. Especially so in cases linked to happiness. Learning how to motivate yourself and think positively is much more beneficial than taking a pill.