Phube Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 Sorry but it's just sooo irritating!! Their: As in they have/own/are etc. E.g. Their new football boots are cool! Have they got their tickets yet? There: As in a place, or non-possessive statement. E.g. There will be Hell to pay!! Are we there yet? They're: As in 'they are'. E.g. They're so excited about the game tommorow. Do they know they're just plain awful! The Daddy: Have they got their coats, they're due to arrive there at 5 'o'clock!! P.s. I know you'll probably find some SPAG errors in this, but typo's are fine, we all make mistakes! But this is just lazy English!!
davieG Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 Sorry but it's just sooo irritating!!Their: As in they have/own/are etc. E.g. Their new football boots are cool! Have they got their tickets yet? There: As in a place, or non-poessive statement. E.g. There will be Hell to pay!! Are we there yet? They're: As in 'they are'. E.g. They're so excited about the game tommorow. Do they know they're just plain awful! The Daddy: Have they got their coats, they're due to arrive there at 5 'o'clock!! P.s. I know you'll probably find some SPAG errors in this, but typo's are fine, we all make mistakes! But this is just lazy English!! Must of missed it meself
lookwhaticando Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 The Education system is crap when it tries to teach English, innit. Seriously though, English lessons in your later years are essentially useless. They don't worry enough about proper spelling and grammar. They worry about things like 'does the student understand the plot behind a story written 200 years ago?' It's all well and good getting people to read things and try to understand them and think about them critically or what have you - but it should not be at a cost of spelling and grammar. That's why I lost interest in English classes many many years ago - you read, you write, but you're not learning anything practical. You enter secondary schools with the same basic grammar you were taught many years earlier, and it's never reinforced or added to - so you leave secondary school with basically the same basic grammar and spelling ability you started with. Sad state of affairs really.
Smudge Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 Eeeeeeeeeee when I were a lad there were two English classes, English literature where students learned their classics and English grammar within which one learned all about "in anticipation of the anticipatory it" et al. They're both combined as one these days.
Thracian Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 The Education system is crap when it tries to teach English, innit. Seriously though, English lessons in your later years are essentially useless. They don't worry enough about proper spelling and grammar. They worry about things like 'does the student understand the plot behind a story written 200 years ago?' It's all well and good getting people to read things and try to understand them and think about them critically or what have you - but it should not be at a cost of spelling and grammar. That's why I lost interest in English classes many many years ago - you read, you write, but you're not learning anything practical. You enter secondary schools with the same basic grammar you were taught many years earlier, and it's never reinforced or added to - so you leave secondary school with basically the same basic grammar and spelling ability you started with. Sad state of affairs really. Far too many teachers I know cannot spell properly so there's not much hope really.
Smudge Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 I would also like to add that there aint no "A' in definitely as is so often seen these herabouts, :pinch:
cisono Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 Eeeeeeeeeee when I were a lad there were two English classes, English literature where students learned their classics and English grammar within which one learned all about "in anticipation of the anticipatory it" et al. They're both combined as one these days. The result? I complete mess
stez Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 i'm no english professor when it comes to my own spelling, but people putting 'i no' instead of 'i know' really pisses me off!
lookwhaticando Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 Far too many teachers I know cannot spell properly so there's not much hope really. I've come across a fair few hopeless spellers in my time in various educational institutions. In university it's not quite so bad - especially as professors with poor spelling don't bother writing anything. And it's not all that important anyway, by this time you'd hope your students can spell well enough, most of them will be able to understand. In high school, though, where the bulk of education lies, it's shocking when teachers make blatant spelling and grammatical errors. Drives me up the wall. I've noticed that some teachers (and their students) over here, in high school, write comparative statements/questions with the word "then" instead of "than". "What makes [this] more useful then [that]?" "Item X is more useful then item Y because ..." What the hell are you trying to do to us?
Smudge Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 I would also like to add that there aint no "A' in definitely as is so often seen these herabouts, :pinch: I can't stand double negatives either
The People's Hero Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 Far too many teachers I know cannot spell properly so there's not much hope really. My girlfriend wants to be a teacher and she's terrible when it comes to spelling/grammar... I, on the other hand, am extremely good!
lookwhaticando Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 I would also like to add that there aint no "A' in definitely as is so often seen these herabouts, :pinch: I must admit I often make this mistake. It's a sorta reflex - it happens even though I know how to spell the word... god knows how I manage to make the same mistake all the time... I usually catch myself at it tho. Red handed.
lookwhaticando Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 i'm no english professor when it comes to my own spelling, but people putting 'i no' instead of 'i know' really pisses me off! That's txt-spk more than (see what I've done here? ) bad spelling/grammar.
cisono Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 Far too many teachers I know cannot spell properly so there's not much hope really. On this course I am taking (well, perhaps I WAS doing as I really want to drop out!), they had us all take 2 numeracy and 2 literacy tests within the first 2 weeks of starting. Later I found out that our lecturers have trouble spelling rather common words (in fact, I had to shout out the spelling to help one of them out the other day) Perhaps the government would be better advised to test lecturers' basic skills instead?
lookwhaticando Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 Your completely right. It was only a matter of time.
stez Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 That's txt-spk more than (see what I've done here? ) bad spelling/grammar. thnx now i no
cisono Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 My girlfriend wants to be a teacher and she's terrible when it comes to spelling/grammar... I, on the other hand, am extremely good! Hmm strange that, isn't it... PS: I have noticed your irreprehensible spelling
lookwhaticando Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 It's funny that this topic has arisen. Just two days ago, a friend of mine in high school in the US at K-12 level who is disgruntled at the level of English teaching in the system, wrote an email on this very subject. He's planning on waging a war against the (crap) system of English teaching in his local school board. He's threatened not to send his kids to this particular school board unless things improve. The fact that he doesn't have kids yet (he's only 18) is neither here nor there - because by the time he has kids to send to high school, the system will be even worse (judging by trends over the last 20 years) Our English Department is cheating all of us. Being able to communicate intelligently is one of the most important skills we will ever use and it's very sad to know that we are being cheated out of it.[...] It really upsets me that during 10th and 11th grade I was reading books that had no real significance and learning about Greek mythology, which will only matter to one or two kids in the class after the test has been taken. Instead of teaching us something we will actually use, they teach us a bunch of fluff. Yes, books are important, but making sure a student can actually read these books and write coherently is a little more important. I honestly believe they teach literature because it is easier to teach a student to share his ideas than actually use his brain. They never graded my reports on my spelling, grammar, and sentence structure, but on my idea and if I followed the instructions. Which is all well and good, but like I said before, no one in real life cares about your ideas. At least they see if you can follow instructions, but that should have been covered in elementary school when we had to stand in line after recess.
Phube Posted 5 October 2006 Author Posted 5 October 2006 Phube for Education minister. All in good time!!
lookwhaticando Posted 5 October 2006 Posted 5 October 2006 All in good time!! You used two many !'s. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: "Too, Two, To" is another set of words that throw people off.
Phube Posted 5 October 2006 Author Posted 5 October 2006 You used two many !'s. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: "Too, Two, To" is another set of words that throw people off. Perhaps I should start a grammar series: To, too and two. Your, you're and Yore. You should have, not should of!!!
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