All Religions' Posts

[Fosse Boy]

What's wrong with Britain being a mainly Christian country?

Erm, it isn't.

When was the last time you went in to a church that was rammed to the rafters?

[Guest]

Erm, it isn't.

When was the last time went in to a church that was rammed to the rafters?

I remember hearing about some church that had been converted into a club (might have been in Leics but can't be sure), that was probably the last time, unless you count the memorial at St Paul's the other week

[Tilley]

I remember hearing about some church that had been converted into a club (might have been in Leics but can't be sure), that was probably the last time, unless you count the memorial at St Paul's the other week

Leeds.

[lavrentis]

Erm, it isn't.

When was the last time went in to a church that was rammed to the rafters?

Churches aren't as full as they used to be, that's fair enough and I don't believe in any God at all but I don't see what your point is? You laughed at the fact that it was suggested that Britain should stay a mainly Christian country but you don't see a problem with it?

[AjcW]

Erm, it isn't.

When was the last time you went in to a church that was rammed to the rafters?

Is the Staples Centre a church

[Budweiser]

Leeds.

Yeh i've seen that pub/church, whatever it is !

They do them all over the country now though so ya know.

[Budweiser]

Churches aren't as full as they used to be, that's fair enough and I don't believe in any God at all but I don't see what your point is? You laughed at the fact that it was suggested that Britain should stay a mainly Christian country but you don't see a problem with it?

Very good point sir.

I don't quite see how that could have you in stitches?

[BoneDog]

When people say 'a Christian country' do they mean white? There are Christians in every country in the world. Arab, African, Chinese, Mexican etc., so does this mean that we can have any Christian here or just English Christians? I don't get it.

And let's not forget, Christianity is from exactly the same place as Judaism and Islam, the Middle East.

Jesus was brown

[Asha]

:laugh:

That one always has me in stitches.

I honestly don't see how that 'has you in stitches'.

Christianity is still a big religion in this country and maybe it's a reasonable point that it should be acknowledged as the main religion of the country.

Erm, it isn't.

When was the last time you went in to a church that was rammed to the rafters?

What a naive comment.

Do you regularly go to church?

[Fosse Boy]

Churches aren't as full as they used to be, that's fair enough and I don't believe in any God at all but I don't see what your point is? You laughed at the fact that it was suggested that Britain should stay a mainly Christian country but you don't see a problem with it?

My point is that it's always argued that Great Britain is a mainly Christian country. Well, where are all these supposed Christians and why should religion even affect how state affairs are conducted in the first place? Our nation should be based on secular values and tolerance for all religions. Just because in the past the majority of people here were practising Christians here doesn't mean it should affect our attitude to government in the 21st century.

Besides, I tend to find that people arguing in favour of Britain being a nation with a Christian majority are usually agnostic or atheist themselves. So why should they peddle this ideal? It's a phallacy.

[AjcW]

Jesus was brown

All Saints have just gone to production on a new range of belts with that now.

[Libertine]

All Saints have just gone to production on a new range of belts with that now.

Insightful addition to the thread there.

[Fosse Boy]

I honestly don't see how that 'has you in stitches'.

Christianity is still a big religion in this country and maybe it's a reasonable point that it should be acknowledged as the main religion of the country.

What a naive comment.

Do you regularly go to church?

It might be a big religion but it's miniscule in a comparison to the secular majority. Just because people put down C of E on their census forms doesn't mean they actually give a shit about religion.

Funnily enough as an agnostic who's out on the piss most Saturday nights I'm never usually up in time for church on a Sunday morning...

[AjcW]

Insightful addition to the thread there.

To be honest mate ive shoved all my feelings on facebook and cant be arsed to rehash it in here.

And the place needed lightening up

[Thracian]

Erm, it isn't.

When was the last time you went in to a church that was rammed to the rafters?

At least four times in the last year. Out of four.

[LCFC-ARAB]

havn't done history for a while

but wasn't christianity only introduced into this country so Henry VIII could divorce his wife?

corect me if i'm wrong

[Asha]

Funnily enough as an agnostic who's out on the piss most Saturday nights I'm never usually up in time for church on a Sunday morning...

Exactly. So what makes you think you can say things like that without anything to really corroborate it?

Rediculous.

[BoneDog]

My point is that it's always argued that Great Britain is a mainly Christian country. Well, where are all these supposed Christians and why should religion even affect how state affairs are conducted in the first place? Our nation should be based on secular values and tolerance for all religions. Just because in the past the majority of people here were practising Christians here doesn't mean it should affect our attitude to government in the 21st century.

Besides, I tend to find that people arguing in favour of Britain being a nation with a Christian majority are usually agnostic or atheist themselves. So why should they peddle this ideal? It's a phallacy.

I knew what you meant when you said that statement has you in stitches. It normally comes from people who have no interest in religion whatsoever, but every now and then when it suits, they say 'we are a Christian country'. I don't think even 1 in 100 people go to church in England or believe in Jesus. I hope more do, but I doubt it.

[Thracian]

havn't done history for a while

but wasn't christianity only introduced into this country so Henry VIII could divorce his wife?

corect me if i'm wrong

You are.

http://www.localhistories.org/christian.html

[Asha]

I knew what you meant when you said that statement has you in stitches. It normally comes from people who have no interest in religion whatsoever, but every now and then when it suits, they say 'we are a Christian country'. I don't think even 1 in 100 people go to church in England or believe in Jesus. I hope more do, but I doubt it.

Albeit 8 years ago, the 2001 census showed that over 70% of the population identified themselves as Christians. Fair enough, a decent number of them might not be truthful in saying that, but it's a lot more than '1 in 100' people that go to church in England, I can assure you.

[Fosse Boy]

Exactly. So what makes you think you can say things like that without anything to really corroborate it?

Rediculous.

As the son of a practicing Christian I have a little experience with churches in the past, and the only time I've ever seen them anywhere over half full is for weddings or funerals.

I think you're missing the thrust of my argument. What I'm saying is that despite 41 odd million people at the last census claiming to be Christian, in reality only a tiny minority are actual practicing Christians. Therefore, this is not a Christian country.

And in any case no country should define itself by the religion the majority of its citizens claims to practice, and it certainly shouldn't be allowed to affect how a country is governed in the way our current constitution does.

I knew what you meant when you said that statement has you in stitches. It normally comes from people who have no interest in religion whatsoever, but every now and then when it suits, they say 'we are a Christian country'. I don't think even 1 in 100 people go to church in England or believe in Jesus. I hope more do, but I doubt it.

You're on the ball.

[BoneDog]

Albeit 8 years ago, the 2001 census showed that over 70% of the population identified themselves as Christians. Fair enough, a decent number of them might not be truthful in saying that, but it's a lot more than '1 in 100' people that go to church in England, I can assure you.

I hope it is. I'm just going on people I know. I honestly can think of hardly anyone who goes to church apart from some old dears I know.

I love Jesus as much as the Brazil national football team, so I'm with the Christians on that one!

I just reckon that most of the folk who claim to be Christians in England nowadays would not be able to answer two questions about the Bible.

[Tilley]

I honestly can think of hardly anyone who goes to church apart from some old dears I know.

:laugh:

[Thracian]

I knew what you meant when you said that statement has you in stitches. It normally comes from people who have no interest in religion whatsoever, but every now and then when it suits, they say 'we are a Christian country'. I don't think even 1 in 100 people go to church in England or believe in Jesus. I hope more do, but I doubt it.

You don't have to go to Church to be a Christian or to believe in following a Christian way of life. In fact I've never much understood the value of worshipping in churches under the guidance of sometimes debatable individuals especially given the historical background of the Church in times past.

Far more important to me is trying to set your own example based on, say, the Commandments but, in any case, a set of values you believe in and are willing to make genuine effort to abide by.

What point is there really in a Catholic going to Confession, seeking forgiveness for getting pissed out of his brain, and then doing it again within the week? It's a piss-take really.

But if a Christian upbringing with things like Sunday school or daily prayer, develops the sort of kids who treat people with kindness and respect, who care for others, who don't steal or bully folk and are generally constructive members of society, is there so much harm done?

And, for me there are many in this country like that, whether they go to church or not.

[LCFC-ARAB]

I hate religion with a passion

if i had the choice of going to hell and getting pissed, doing drugs and getting hookers with Hitler, Stalin and Saddam Hussein

or going to heaven and sitting around all day drinking tea and playing gin rummy with a bunch of boring old people,

i know which one i'd choose