Freeman's Wharfer

How many of these young players get poached and then never go on to make a mark as well? Chelsea used to do it a lot and a few who probably would have eased into a ‘smaller’ club’s first team and then gone on to have a decent career at the top level got lost amongst the masses. Take the case of someone like Harvey Barnes. Good youth prospect, couple of successful loans, eased into our first team and eventually got an England cap. If he’d gone to a Man City or Liverpool at 15 would he be a Premier League player? We can’t know for certain but I actually think it was beneficial to him and England for him to come through here rather than be poached. This is an area where I think our club is falling short at the minute unfortunately. We struggle to get players successful loan moves and we’re not savy enough. I’m convinced we’ve had a couple here (Casadei and Kane) where it’s been written into the loan that they have to play a part in every fixture. Yet we’re sending Braybrooke up to Dundee with nothing similar? And if you have the likes of Andy King around the club, use him. Get him talking to the kid and his parents every week. Connect Monga’s parents with the likes of Chilwell and Barnes’ parents to hear their views. Get Vardy putting an arm round him. Go find the kids that went to big clubs and never made it and ask them to be a case study. A bit of initiative here could be worth millions later down the line.

I would assume this isn’t a one and done kind of thing. The first one might get 50 people, the next 100 etc. If people want change then they should be less preoccupied with picking holes in what @ProjectReset or any of the fan groups have/haven’t done and more so with just turning up and showing their support if they care enough to do so. The first one doesn’t have to be anything fancy to get the clubs attention: be at a place on a date and time and vocalise your discontent.

We were growing into the premier league in that season, much in the way El Khannouss has this season. Unfortunately that’s about the only instance in which that scenario applies, as this time round we’ve clogged our team with declining premier league plodders like Ayew, Decordova-Reid, Vestergaard and Coady.

Good to see this is still going ahead so that those who wish to express their dissatisfaction have a peaceful way to do so. All talk and no walk would be disastrous for our fan base right now. There’s already large scale apathy and the club has taken many decisions that show disregard for the fan base. The club need to see there is desire for change strong enough for people to join something like this.

Leicester fans didn’t have a special relationship with Vichai. The tragic circumstances of his death triggered grief buried within people for people they actually knew and it took on a Princess Diana esque spectacle where it was, quite frankly, ridiculous to see people crying in public over someone they never knew. Leicester fans couldn’t recognise his voice, tell you his birthday (despite the free doughnuts) or anything else significant about him as a man. He was as private and shady as a man gifted a monopoly by the king of Thailand should be. The co-ordinated grief and brain-washy type slogans like ‘Always In Our Hearts’ and ‘The Boss’ pushed by the club are superb examples of how you can manipulate the majority of people into thinking a certain way. This is now actually harming the club as accountability for the current owner is lacking due to association with the former one.

Ain’t no stoppin Bilal He’s El-Khannouss Ain’t no stoppin Bilal He plays in blue (McFadden & Whitehead - Ain’t No Stoppin Us Now) https://youtu.be/i2FW1WJc0lg?si=3ISmsZFR2zXe7JJa

You’re missing everything. 1) ‘Just participate like the rest of the fan base’ - they quite clearly can’t when they’re getting called out asking if they’re getting actively involved. They’re a collective not individuals as well so amongst the group there will be varying views on the protest. 2) I think the point here is that they want the individuals within UFS who are keen to join to do so without it being ‘in partnership with’. 3) See points 1 and 2 I think you’ve provided a great illustration of what they’re up against at times. They get called out to ask what they’re doing, they provide perfectly reasoned explanation of their stance, people pick holes in said stance!

All of the “where do you expect us to be in the league table?” merchants, we’re not playing that game about league position. Because we played that game a couple of years ago when we were somehow finishing 8th under Rodgers but looking appalling. Many of us were calling out the rot that what setting in but we were getting “What more do you want? We’re in 8th!”. So we should have already learnt that position in a table does not tell the full story. People might not have expected us to be sitting pretty in the upper parts of the table, but they can still see when things are happening that will eventually catch up with us.

The thing with PSR is that, to a large extent, when it comes to what you can spend on players, you’re in charge of your own destiny. People can lambast the club for not spending because it’s also down to the club to get itself in a position to be able to spend. Unfortunately, there’s one person tasked with that: the DOF. If the DOF cannot sell players because he lacks the experience, the contacts or the skills to do so at the top level of the game, then you’re always going to be hamstrung by a lack of income from player sales. Rudkin has overseen multiple million pound players who play at international level walking out of the door for nothing. We have failed for the past several years to sell players we don’t want for any money. A good DOF would have been able to shift the likes of Danny Ward, Hamza Choudhury and Luke Thomas for money in the last couple of years. That’s without even mentioning how not allowing wages to get absurd is also on the DOF. Unfortunately, all roads lead back to Rudkin. It’s fair to criticise the lack of spending this window. Doing so is criticising those who have put us in this position as much as the lack of spending itself.

Agree with the sentiment but it’s not just on the footballing side the club needs a reset. The way the club operates in terms of fan communication, appreciation and engagement is wildly off at the moment as well.

Just to let you know, you’re part of the problem now.

By the end of his time here, Mahrez was probably the only player I’ve seen at Leicester single-handedly winning games or turning a tight game in our favour with individual brilliance at the top level. He’d be worth an additional 6-8 points between now and the end of the season playing for us in his prime IMO.

The problem with KPFC fans is that they constantly kick the can down the road and then move the goal posts. It’ll be all “now’s not the right time” because of a relegation battle and needing to “get behind the lads”, an anniversary of a tragedy making scrutiny supposedly inappropriate, an external mitigating factor being used (like Covid or PSR or something else)… Then you get to the summer after things have predictably gone to pot and it’s “it’s done now, we have to be positive and look forward - this negativity won’t help us bounce back” or it’s “let’s wait and see how the season starts” or it’s “Trust in Top to learn the lesson and sort this”. Then the problems with how the club is run persist into the new season and it’s “you won’t be saying that if we have a good transfer window, give him time”. Then when we rush to do some poor overly priced business it’s “see, what were you all moaning about?”. Then those players turn out to be duds and the cost of rushing to get them on poor deals impacts our next window where we’re needing to undo some damage. But it’s a new window in their mind so it’s a new dawn and there cannot possibly be a chain of events in the past that are impacting upon the present. It’s actually quite nauseating telling them time and again that they’re wrong, and then being proved right by objective and reasonable measure, but having to try and meet some new threshold to try and get them to realise that they are wrong again. You eventually realise that there’s a huge problem in this country with critical thinking/reasoning skills and it might be beyond some to spot the patterns.

Best thing about it was that it looked like one the club’s stupid ‘honesty flags’.

It’s genuinely a bewildering argument with multiple billionaires out in the world to say “I don’t think there’s anyone else better out there than King Power”. You’d never heard of King Power before they bought Leicester. You probably hadn’t heard of half of the owners of current Premier League clubs before they got involved. Your lack of knowledge of options is no reason to accept the current shambles in the belief we cannot do better and there are no more viable options out there.

Great comms, Lynn! When the Trust has posted on here in a way that people feel misses the mark there are often a flurry of replies so I think it’s important to acknowledge progress when we see it. Setting the right expectations with club staff this year, welcoming participation and feedback, and providing absolute clarity on process. It’s a great example of steps in the right direction.

Forest away Jon Moss special. A nothing penalty against Mills for handball and then sending Schmeichel off for throwing the ball back to the halfway line.

Wrote this for The Fosse Way: https://www.thefosseway.net/viewpoint/leicester-city-ruud-rudkin-january-2025 For those who think Rudkin is doing a good enough job, it would be interesting to hear what a minimum acceptable January would look like? How many players in/out? By when?! Then we can all look back on 1st February and determine if he’s done enough…

A few people need to separate head and heart in this thread. He’s only ever been a standout player in a side far too good for The Championship. If you think that is the answer to our problems then you’re wrong.

I know there have been some people that didn’t receive the AGM notice despite being members (for whatever reason). Just to mention, if you want to join online you need to email [email protected] before 10th January. Hopefully @Foxes_Trust might also be able to provide some clarity here for people on the resolution and proxy voting process in case people have missed.

I think he’s so far up Top’s rear end that he daren’t sit on the front row when Top’s not there. Like some weird kind of deference.

Genuinely amazed there’s seemingly more or less a 50/50 split on RVN. Our season will not be defined on games like Newcastle away, Liverpool away and Man City at home. He’s had an absolute stinker of a fixture list to walk into as a new manager with no transfer window so, for me, I’ll place more emphasis on performances right now. Wolves and second half at Newcastle aside - which as I’ve said further up this thread are anomalies due to Danny Ward - we’ve performed pretty well. He’s doing things tactically that Steve Cooper could not even begin to comprehend and I think a large chunk of our fan base, particularly those not watching inside a stadium where you get an appreciation for these things, cannot either. We have a good manager here, we just need to help him in the January window They deserved the support they got at full time today with being clapped off. To quote James Maddison…

I don’t think it’s necessarily incompetence. I actually think it’s negligence. His attendance at games in recent years is patchy at best. When he is here it’s a vanity project and he has one hundred Thai hangers on with him. He enjoys the attention that comes so easily thanks to a gullible fan base associating him with his father’s success. Him turning up to the Forest home game in the relegation season for the first time that season and later shooting disapproving looks at Union FS urging the board to act before it was too late were were prime examples of him being so far out of touch that he can’t possibly be in it day to day. Now I don’t doubt that, were he properly involved, he’d still be incompetent. As others have said, this is just a rich kid that has inherited a play thing and never had to learn the unteachable lessons that a founder learns on the way up in building a huge business. But fortunately I don’t think he’s even that ‘in it‘ to be able to make things even worse (I dread to think). If the night that helicopter went down we’d have been sold to ABC Corporation, and you were judging their record since then, you’d be attributing the FA Cup win to a hangover from the previous ownership and absolutely livid at the demise that had followed under the new ownership thereafter. There’d be an overwhelming majority wanting them gone and pining for King Power back. Unfortunately 90% of our fan base can’t detach themselves from the emotion around Vichai to view things as rationally as seeing that Top-owned LCFC and this new era is ABC Corporation.

He’s made one mistake: 135 minutes of Danny Ward. Take that out of the equation and it’s a win against a decent calibre West Ham team, a spirited draw against a strong Brighton side, 1-0 down to a strong Newcastle side and still in it at half time and giving top of the table Liverpool a decent run for their money. Now that error is pretty huge. You’d hope any Leicester manager had done his due diligence to know that Ward is miles off it at this level. But I think he had a decision to make on his principles (the risk of Ward, and stay true to what he’s trying to get his players to buy into, or Iversen and abandon playing out from the back) and he paid a price. The good thing is that he learned that lesson sharpish and has bombed Ward completely out of the squad at the next possible opportunity. He’s working with a horrendous squad, thanks to injuries to some of our best and poor recruitment, and probably needs 3 in January to stand a chance. Would you trust our DOF to get those 3 over the line and to do so quickly to give RVN the best chance of success?

“Support for away ticket collections to be reconsidered (similar to season 2022/23) – support agency staff to be used.” Sorry, what? Support for this from whom? And for what reason when there have been no major incidents in the season and a half since they stopped this nonsense?