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If it had been him from day 1 that would be ok, but to take this long is mental

Do you think he could find Wally? Quite tricky.

Not suggesting he was an angel or that some of these issues doing stem from his ownership, but I think with Vichai, people were actually proud of their owner. And to be fair, he did a lot of things that earned that reputation whether that be on the pitch, or off it. But even then it still went a little too far. However, Top is a completely different kettle of fish. Even if people are still on the idea of him staying and earning the right to turn it around, you cannot be a genuine supporter if you are not furious with him for the state of the club. It isn't just the performances on the pitch or even the financial mess, but the smaller things (groupies on the title parade, the banning of that sick person's season ticket etc). At this point, he is attacking what is your first love, something that's been an ever present in your life (at least for most), and sadly for some, the one constant. You're basically choosing KP/Top over your own life. Mental

For all the doom and gloom, he's providing the tiniest chink of light. Not like he's absolutely tearing up but more and more impressed with his maturity on the pitch. Physically, he's a completely different beast from the start of the season. We certainly had less control of the game when he went off yesterday. Look forward to us having to sell him for £200k in League 1

He had a couple of nice passes and little breaks but otherwise he was cack. He's so half arsed into challenges and our game completely dropped off when Page went off

He cares too much and given he's probably the nicest bloke to play for us, certainly of those in the legends category, it's crap to see. There was a spell in the first half where it was the best we've retained and moved the ball all season. Unfortunately, given how fragile we are, losing in extra time is another hammer blow for the confidence.

Because you hate Skipp To be clear, I was saying that in jest Love you really

@moore_94 You'll be crying about that one

Mavididi should be dropped off that alone. Had a great game generally speaking but he's done that multiple times in the past few games

Hopefully more people donate. Problem is, for some of us donating £20 is nothing especially in the context of what's a stake (putting more pressure on this awful ownership), whereas as many others are nowhere near that fortunate and simply can't afford it. And worse is that the club's extortion of one of the their passions/loves contributes to it

This sounds like absolute shite to me

No way he'd tolerate Ayew's work rate

He might not be the answer but is laughable to suggest him as a sideways move. Calibre wise, he's way beyond what we'll be able to get

And kill all the players? A little extreme but one way to get rid of these dossers

And to make you feel better, Dyche is very unrealistic

The question is why would he come here? Ultimately, he's still done a decent job at Forest in the circumstances so you can guarantee a PL team would be after him at some point. To drop to a club on the verge of L1 when your stock is so much higher makes no sense at all

The point is there was still a good amount of players that were here when we were good in the PL, so if you could have relied on the same attitude/confidence being there, you had the foundations for a good team. Obviously that didn't happen and the second we lost our manager at the start of the season and KDH, that was it really.

Should have been in a position to stay up comfortably last year with the right additions. Instead our transfer business was awful, manager choices awful and that all reinforced the negative traits of this group of players.

Sadly he wasn't doing that last year. And if he's not, what hope is there for most of these clowns

Dyche isn't much more realistic than Frank. Considering where Forest were when he took over, he's done a really good job so his stock will still be plenty high enough for another PL job

Just as much as yours did

Given some of the words and grammar in your reply, you'd be perfect together

I was just about to post similar but that they said hos work rate was immense. Every now and then you see it but even with the benefit given for how he moves on the pitch (laid back let's say), his work rate is pathetic

You're entitled to your opinion but to state that you don't understand why people want a change of ownership, shows a staggering lack of empathy, and really, a complete show of ignorance for what is happening. I understand if you want to cling on to the hope that the ownership can turn it round and that we've had our best times under KP, even that we're a traditional yo-yo club (though the circumstances of this current situation is unprecedented in the PL era for any team). Unfortunately for you, the sheer weight of evidence pointing to why we need new ownership and the mess they have caused is irrefutable. I won't attack you if you won't to support KP and hope it gets better, even if I completely disagree with it. But if you do not acknowledge the state the club is in entirely because of them, then 'supporters' (as you put it) like you are so far detached from reality, your opinions should be completely disregarded.

Would he? Based on what? He let a team ship 9 goals twice which shows you how fragile the mentality is under his teams. That's the absolute last thing we need. And I'm saying that as somebody who doesn't mind him. The only way we stay up, is if the players take some responsibility. Maybe an outside voice helps them do that but it's still going to be down to them for the next few months