dmayne7

Because as with everything is football now, you must try to outsmart the opposition rather than outskill them.

You want to watch England women's v Sweden in this year's Euro's. Not an exaggeration to say that some of those looked worse than Sunday League

Jesus. Calm down . Think you'll find the official line is that they can't reach an agreement so whilst you assume that's on Donnarumma more than PSG, it's still both parties. Then they have said that he won't be number 1 because they want a different profile of keeper. So if he was just being overlooked because he wouldn't sign a contract, you'd just come out and say that. Looks much better on you as a club as you're placing the blame at the player's feet, because of their actions. Instead, they are saying they want something different in goal which then looks stupid.

But most contracts stipulate that you will be required to work away from your main place of work from time to time at the company's discretion. More importantly, footballers do not have the same work life as normal people. So trying to say Winks should or shouldn't do something because 'we' would or wouldn't, isn't really relevant. Still think he's good enough for the PL but needed a different type of player alongside him. Shame he's a bit of a knob though.

Not it's not. It's the only way you can have a 100% factually correct view. Everyone knows that

And that is one of the biggest failings of our academy. How many players are ever given that many games? Almost none but when they are they stick

And still he got 4 goal contributions in just 669 minutes. Pretty good return. Who's the first player a manager is going to haul off? The young winger. Wouldn't read much into that

No he wasn't

Did well for a dreadful Cardiff team in this league though. He's got to at least be given a chance. Compare him to lads like Hamza and Kasey who are crap but got loads of opportunities. He's got way more talent so should be afforded the same.

Not sure about that. Page had a bit more support around him especially when Winks came on. Alves didn't really do anything well but also didn't do much badly. Had some good showings in pre season too. Should be way ahead of somebody like McAteer

Such a weird stance. Half this forum is shocking at giving young players a chance and actually seems to enjoy them doing badly, which then causes the other half to defend them. In Kasey's case, he jumped up a couple of levels after a pretty poor loan in League 2 and has somehow leapfrogged other players who are better than him. Nice lad but just doesn't the the quality needed

Mental that we turned that down even if it just was an option. Said in the match thread that he's absolutely crap yet he'll probably still somehow bag 10 goals this season.

Awful night. Going out means less chances for the youngsters, the individual performances were shocking, Nelson had a stinker first half, Alves hooked early and collectively not a real plan. Not panicking like some will but very poor

No he wasn't. He has a very good season but the second our form dipped or he got slightly exposed, he was poor. Not to mention his role was so ridiculously easy in that team. People sat off him and just let him pass it

Were we?

So he was quality in this league last year but a crap 45 mins (way better in this half), and now Faes and Vestergaard are miles better?

Which made him one of the star performers in the first half

Technically he was way better, just lacked any real composure. Started to get a lot more consistent before that awful challenge from Morgan

Hume was way better

He was crap but completely isolated as per usual

Kasey has been pitiful. Genuinely gives me hope of becoming a pro footballer

Quality from Hamza and Soumare

What? If a non penalty taker gets the follow up that's a massive red flag against the defenders

He's absolutely crap but he'll probably still score 10 this season

That's more like it Hamza