It is likely me, my argument is us saying stuff and not backing it up. So at this point we either go in (we won’t for the reasons you said), or actually push Ukraine to make massive concessions. Because if we don’t do the first, the second will happen anyway but with more deaths. And then to stop villainising the people saying the realist stuff rather than the fake bs fed to Ukrainians. By the way after the war there are going to be a lot Ukrainians angry at our betrayal who will have access to military grade weapons,