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Would you have any level of veto ? say two or three members of the six needing to veto for it to be valid ? If you have no veto system and work on a straight majority of the GA then you effectively have a world parliament and as a western liberal democracy we may not be too happy with what is decided and we have to abide by.

my comment on the UN was that as a body, it’s obviously made up of members who will have political biases and be part of blocs. Self interest will abound. But I also accept your central point.

I think approx 75/80% of world Jewry is Ashkenazi (as you say those who ended up in Eastern Europe on their long journey from the Levant). The balance are Sephardi - those who settled around Mediterranean and Arab countries. In Israel, the split is 50/50 which reflects the large number of Sephardi Jews who were kicked out of/left Arab countries in the late forties and fifties and resettled in Israel. im not educated enough to know the detail of the long journey of the Ashkenazi from Roman expulsion out of Judea and their establishment of large communities in e Europe. Whilst I’m not always keen to accept wiki as fact, I found this link thorough and detailed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ethnic_divisions if anyone is struggling to sleep later then I recommend it 😄

That’s the sad thing Jews and Muslims are indeed brethren. ( of course Ishmael and Isaac not from the same mother). The bible says that ‘god’ tells Ishmael’s mother (Hagar) that he will make a great nation of her son’s offspring.

Apologies shouldn’t have been question marks it was a statement Yes, citizens of Israel are Israelis. Only 77% of which are Jews. All Jews (by birth) consider themselves descendants of Jacob (and therefore Abraham). There aren’t many Jews who aren’t Jewish by birth - it’s not a religion that seeks converts although obviously it happens (nearly always ref marriage). I’d make a guess that less than 10% of Jews are converts. Could even be 5%.

What about Israeli islamists ?

General news thread closed for no apparent reason (other than Tommy thought people were arguing - not from where I was sitting ) Was respectful and informative

citizens of Israel are Israelis ???? not all Israelis follow Judaism because 20% of them are Muslim (plus a few percent others ) I don’t get the analogy with white Europeans and Christianity.

mp’s, judges, military as per all western liberal democracies. whilst people on here are educated and understand that, there is a lot of ignorance in the wider world. The apartheid label applied to the country by many groups is relevant in the occupied West Bank but people believe it’s the entire Israeli country.

Can’t see the security council veto changing any time soon- and if you want the UN to have enforcement teeth then this is even less likely!

Iran is by its very definition ‘the Islamic state of Iran’. Likewise Pakistan The issue is that there won’t be more than one Jewish state in the world cos there are only 15m Jews. The 2 billion Muslims will mean that there are numerous Islamic states

Inshallah!! Tuesday at least an additional hundred trucks of aid each day will enter over the next few days (on top of the 250/300 currently going in). Hopefully this ceasefire means those who are struggling to access this will be able to. two things on the timings Friday this week sees the nobel peace prize decided (I think he should wait till next year) Tuesday morning in the second anniversary of Oct 7 in the Jewish calendar. Those held will not quite see a third year begin in that context. thereafter the difficult stuff begins of negotiations on Hams/PIJ disarmament and technocrat authority establishment over the strip.

It’s a UN body. elected by UN members. It’s not created just for Gaza. It’s ongoing for the world. Just shows the UN for what they are and as a western democracy I think we place too much trust in them and some of their reports/votes. of course western democracies are also responsible for human rights abuses but we have systems in place to call them out and hold people accountable. (If they’re used)

Interesting that players and coaches are now posting on SM looks like they waited to speak with her to find out what happened and the fact she was clearly pushed out seems to have resonated.

Poch wants a word …..

reckon he’ll get back - he’s used to being there. If Hamza escapes into Hong Kong we may not see him for two weeks !

If hamza is in hong kong next Tuesday then I’ll wager he isn’t back in time for the weekend game 😄

most Ukrainians that came (especially early) were women and their kids people seem to have a thing about young men because it’s fits a narrative

Won’t we all be ‘people of colour’ in a couple of hundred years ?

They dropped him last set of fixtures he’s not been recalled (shock )

Maybe we’ve arrived at a place where a mass of society doesn’t actually know what racism is.

Jenrick so too right wing for reform 😄 he’d be apoplectic at Stansted arrivals in August …….

We sold one of our best ever players directly to Everton Our last big sale is now at Everton everton are a big club that’s been run very badly

Directly or indirectly ……….