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Wonder how our average possession compares to 2023

Not sure about the veracity of that video Mac - those fishermen looked to be wearing clothes that didn’t reflect temps in the upper twenties the official x account of the flotilla tweeted yesterday that it wasn’t about the volume of aid on the boats - take from that what you wish to.

For final clarity on the flotilla - aid across all the boats totalled 2 tonnes. That’s like 2 ford transits. And yet hundreds of thousands across Europe are protesting (in at least one case violently) that this hasn’t been allowed to arrive in Gza. some positive news is that someone has been arrested for the peacehaven mosque fire attack at the weekend

Lineker just interviewed on sky mentioned that he was v unhappy to see Susan pushed out. Said rudders is ‘man marking’ the owner ! pretty clear what he thinks and we should realise that he will know plenty that he can’t speak about

Not much head protection when he played the game. Very sad.

not really I think 99% of people just want to live their lives

we can win without it no thanks

It’s an accepted fact in football that the ball is quicker than the man - hence passing it around will open gaps in th3 opposition set up clearly this fact was decided without watching us playing it around where the covering players move faster than our passes …..

People have no idea what the politics of individual Jews are what they think about events elsewhere in the world is anyone asking the British Muslim community to condemn that tens of thousands of Christian’s have been slaughtered in Nigeria by those who claim to act in the name of Islam? Of course not - it’s nothing to do with them. So why ask the British Jewish community to condemn the actions of the Israeli govt ? FWIW, I would say that support for the Israeli govt amongst British Jews is around 50/50 whereas support for the state is more than 90%. However, any heinous action of a british Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh or Jew (especially so within this country) is absolutely to be condemned by community/faith leaders within Britain. It is their responsibility to comment upon domestic matters like that.

I haven’t been keen to slag off the board whilst she was in place because I know some of the things she’s done over the years and what a capable person she is. we won’t find out the reasons that she’s now left. it’s possible that top wants to do some things that she wouldn’t countenance- we’ll find out over the next year or two.

I have to tell you that much of what the club did which was good was nearly always down to her. She has an instinct of what is the right thing to do (especially in the community). However bad you think we are in this respect atm, prepare yourselves !

Sadly Mac, too many people in our society can’t be trusted to keep their debates peaceful. (Someone already replied about this )

It’s nuts how politics has moved in some areas the current isr govt are happy to have TR as a guest but the next one likely wouldn’t. the idea that the Jews are allies of those towards the extreme right just doesn’t compute. The far right may appear to have their minds set on the most recent immigrants to our country but history tells us that whilst it starts somewhere, it never finishes there.

Shouldn’t events in the U.K. be separate.? This is about a domestic terror attack. it’s not complicated af all - many Muslim leaders have condemned it as they should. We should try not to conflate events here with those around the world - that way, deep complexity lies and it’s tough enough as it is. that approach could be used or justify attacks like Thursday.

Has been mooted - might be the price of peace but if trump is going to do what it looks like he’s doing then the isr govt cannot survive that agreement either BN goes it alone or his coalition falls. It might not happen in the short term as opposition will support any ceasefire/deal vote but beyond that he’ll not have a majority

I think netenyhu is in big political trouble now

Following this up, the flotilla x account has now commented that the flotilla wasn’t just about aid but about ‘breaking the siege’. so we have mass protests all over Europe because this aid wasn’t allowed to get to Gza and it seems there may not have been much aid at all across the 40 odd boats ….. I mean the whole scenario of a truck or two of aid arriving by boat compared to the several hundred trucks being sent in each day was ludicrous anyway. Seems it was perhaps a publicity stunt all along …….

A day later and some things are beginning to dawn on people regarding ms whelan But it could be that we’re such a sh1t show now that it won’t make a lot of difference

I saw that the father of the attacker yesterday posted on social media that this is not what the family are. That this was a heinous act……. the same man who posted on Oct 7 glorifying the attack ……clearly the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree …….. (mr al Shamie jnr was also on bail for a rape charge btw)

Nottingham ………

I thought it meant ‘struggle’. It doesn’t have to mean violence. not sure why you’d call your kid ‘struggle’ though

The Finsbury Park mosque attack was indeed on a par although the perpetrator seems to not have the mindset to leave his vehicle and try to kill people one to one. I haven’t read up on the motivation for that attack - was it specifically aimed at that mosque because of the negative publicity that had been attached to it over the years? I don’t believe that religion on its own is a problem. It’s the extremist interpretations on the margins that lead to problems. Those religions that seek to convert and expand will generally find themselves more at odds with societies where they seek to become established because of those margins. Will birth rates within the muslim community continue to be significantly higher than other groups? If so, it is inevitable that Islam will become the largest religion in Western Europe within 100 years. Within the democratic structures, if constitutions allow, that means many large changes could occur. Surely it is ok for countries to change with their populations ? Would it be an issue for Britain to be an Islamic state in 2150 if 65% of the population were muslim? Either you embrace change or you take steps to prevent it. At the moment we seem to be trying to be all things to all people. of course, as the Muslim demographic increases in its wealth, its birth rate may well begin to drop and that would change this timescale. Do we need to have this debate? the division that now exists means that it can’t happen in a constructive/ grown up manner. the basic problem is a lack of respect for others, and this is getting worse, not better.

Sheep are useful

Apparently one of the dead and one of the injured seem to have been hit by police gunshots tragic

Can those who attend mosques advise if they have security guards on duty when they have prayers or events there ? Are the doors to the mosque locked shut during services with someone having to guard the door and unlock to allow people in ? this has been the case at synagogues and community centres for decades. also, do Islamic schools have security guards on duty rather than teachers making sure all is in order. I understand that many mosques are attacked but I believe that it’s the buildings that are targeted away from busy times rather than the people attending. I think there is a lot of ignorance out there about how Jews have to go about their business - this is not just the uk. Most of Europe is the same. And fundamentally, this feeds into the vast majority isr support that exists within the community. it’s the only country that they know will be a place of safety for them.