BenTheFox

It was also in a competition that we realistically had no chance of winning and one that has seen declining attendances across the board in recent years.

Exactly. Generally, we have been far worse than our league position suggests. The underlying data proves this.

He's not been dealt a good hand. He's only been able to bring in 4 players, one being a 38 year-old goalkeeper and the others being loans, one of which was Carranza, who was horrendous and has now left. However, I'd much rather give backing to a manger we can trust. Marti hasn't gotten anywhere enough out of this squad to earn that trust.

Don't even need to use that as an example. If we were playing that exact game but were 4th in the championship, had a group of players that were hardworking, organised and under a manager who you could see a future with, there's no way the non-propaganda attendance would be below 27,000.

Us and Derby 12th and 13th is the biggest headscratcher. Both absolutely abysmal.

Forest will win comfortably. West Ham look genuinely worse than we did last season in the Premier League.

We really need a safe pair of hands. I can't believe in the year of our lord 2026 I've found myself agreeing with suggestions that we should bring Tony Mowbray in.

You take smash and grabs if you are up against clearly superior opposition. Despite how much I loathe this squad, that is clearly not the case here. West Brom have now lost 10 successive away games. Neing 24th in the league for distance covered tells you what you need to know about this squad under this manager.

Across 90 minutes, was it the worst home performance of the season? I think Blackburn was worse, but it's certainly up there.

Chris Wilder interviewed for the job im the summer and apparently really wanted it. Funnily enough, his record in the championship at every club apart from Sheffield United is actually quite bad. Having said that, I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't be getting more put of this squad. He certainly wouldn't tolerate stats like this.

I'm not at all convinced he would have been sacked had we lost.

More boos from the home support

With all the abuse we've been given by the KPFC foot soldiers this week, FoxesTalk has actually provided me some comfort.

One man with a Cambodia flag? What next? Picket lines outsides the turnstiles shouting scabs at anyone going in?

We should have had a boycott party. We really missed a trick!

The logic being good performance = good ownership, but bad performance = not their fault is completely incoherent. You either think that the ownership plays a substantial role in the success or failure of the club or you don't. You can't have it both ways.

He literally got a Leicester shirt with 'Mardy 26' to mock one of our best ever players Riyad Mahrez. OK, the way he tried to force a move left a bad taste at the time but that is very weird behaviour. He also claimed that Claude Puel, who despite being an underwhelming manager but one that had us consistently mid table in the premier league, was 'destroying our club', but now we're in a much worse position puts it down to just 'having a howler'.

The funny thing is, within the context of our history, the mid-2000s wasn't the norm. It was abnormally bad. Of the ten lowest league finishes in our history, five of them occured between 2005 and 2009.

We were still filling the ground when the club was doing well despite these conditions. If the club was doing well, people would overcome those issues and attend. The poster's point is valid.

As has been mentioned countless times in this thread already, if you are not attending the game for those reasons, then that counts part of the boycott because people were not missing games in large numbers for those reasons previously.

Clapping the team off after turning in a truly embarrassing performance is just entirely performative. You don't really appreciate the effort of the players when they've just not so much as laid a finger on Sheffield Utd.

If they try to pass off that the attendance is 28,000 when clearly it's well short of that, then that in itself is embarrassing for the club.

As has been already mentioned, people not attending because it's cold, kids are back at school, games on Sky etc. are contributing to the boycott even without doing so willingly, because they are not making the same effort that they would have in previous seasons to attend the game.

Genuinely can't remember the last time West Brom had the full away end allocation at ours. That's poor given they're only an hour away.

I think this criticism is quite reasonable actually. This is something that's been called on very late and it's not easy to articulate your objectives when you are just trying to promote a simple message to stay away from the game. For me, it's the one very small piece of leverage I have to show my dissatisfaction with the way the club is being run. I do however think that we are heading for dark times as a club. I fully believe we could go the way of Sheffield Wednesday under this ownership.