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How about "Rotten From TOP through Rudkin and Whelan to the bottom"

But you have to remember.. I cant really offer a name, but it's the owners who are continuing to employ people at the club who aren't fit for purpose and have caused and continuing to cause the damage.. Top won't do the right thing, but new owners just might. Top is part of the overall problem

I believe its only access to public stuff like schools and stuff. Not private companies like the club.

Because unlike Soumare he may actually do may do more than jog around the pitch, and unlike Soumare he may not slow down play. I'm not saying Skip is the answer, but I'm not a a fan of Soumare in the slightest.

Because he's talking out of his Ar$3. If we are really truthful with ourselves we were no better, and still didn't created chances or realisticly look like scoring. Chelsea's Enzoball (as we all.know from being subjected to the god allful plage that it is on the 'beautiful game' while he was here) contributed to help keeping the scoreline respectable. If we were up against any other mid level or top 6 team, I fear the outcome would have been much different and we would have witnessed much the same as the past 10 or 11 matched... a 3 or 4 nil scoreline.

I can't believe I'm actually having to say this but.... I totally agree. We have on this forum debated the problems, reasons why etc. and regardless of the divison we play in next season, the same old sH1t will just keep.on happening until the cause of the problem is removed. IMO we need new ownership to kick start the healing process, (as Top is clueless, brainwashed by Rudkin and Co. or god knows what, but he is clearly incapable of doing what needed) New owners hopefully will bring in their own people, who we hope are more competent to run the club. Only then will we move forward. However the first task regardless of ownership is for RvN to be moved on. He's not a good manager at any level and I truly believe that he would still struggle in the Championship.

I've not submitted a vote as I didn't watch or listen to the match, instead I was enjoying seeing England beat Italy in the 6 nations. Only one vote I would submit would be RvN to leave. Just seeing the team selection before kick off was enough to put me off

OK, Valid point... their results obviously don't lie. However we need a change as "all things RvN" are just not working. I must reiterate I'm not advocating we go for Dyche, just that IMO, regardless of his track record at Everton, he would be an improvement, and on that basis I'm just echoing my previous comment that I wouldn't be totally against it.

I don't think I would scoff at Dyche at the moment either. The football wouldn't be pretty but if it meant winning I'd take it. We need experience at the moment, and Dyche love him.or hate him does have it. It's just a case of is 10 games left enough.. Anyhow its all academic as RvN is going nowhere it seems even with his appalling record that would have gotten most if not all other managers the sack by now.

Totally agree. But you do know that once fired in the direction, he'll find a way of just jogging there.

If this is RvN design. OMFG. Thomas over Stephy? Clueless. It's as if he chose players for a position by picking out of a bag...

Which is exactly why I'm watching England vs Italy in the six nations. I appreciate his' trying something different, and welcome a set up that keeps JA and BDCR out of the starting lineup, but his selection for defence his shocking by still utilising weaker performing or liability (Faes) players. I ask how does Thomas fit in the setup and offer anything with Kristiansen on the pitch? Soumare and Ndidi= zero creativity Also, I'm disappointed to not see Monga on the bench. Please RvN just fvck off...anywhere I don't really care, just not anywhere near our club. I've nothing against him personally, but he's hideously out of his depth and not what we need in a manager for our current situation

I agree, But now details of the sorry mess are starting to bubble to the surfacewith the media, would you think a second 'Reset part 2' be of a benefit, just to keep, or even build the momentum and also hi-light to the club that "we are here and still Pi$$ed off with you" ?

I think we all would my friend...but if R L get a bit too robust with their questions it would jeopardise their access and relationship with the club I think.

So, what should he do then, continue to start 2/3rd's of Dads Army in attack and continue as is. You truly think that when swapped we don't look or perform better? I'm not having a pop mate, but just surprised with your reply.. but hey, its all down to options

I agree, but somebody with a bit of influence needs to tell Ruud that then. What baffels me is, once the two above are replaced, say with Fucandu and Stephy we do see in most cases and improvement. Surely RvN can see this also on each occasion the swaps are made?

How much is that doggy in the window? I'll fetch my coat..

Sorry bud, but I'm polar opposite in my views. He not a good manager and I feel he comes up way short in all the requirements in your points. I don't think the club is seeing enough behind the scenes to see future success, and its down to financial constraints that's he's still here. I also appreciate you said only if he's a good manager and maybe the club is seeing enough. His out of his depth big time, and is seriously lacking in the manageral experience needed to navigate our current situation, and is devoid of the tactical nouns to get the results needed , hilighted by his clueless team selections, baffling substitutions, omitting our better and more effective players from the start of matches in favour of playing "Dads Army" as our attacking options, etc etc .. we as a forum have debated these points until the 'cow's have well and truly come home' Unless he is sacked or he walks and "all things Ruud" are actually removed from the team, then we will be relegated. But I'm also mindful of the bigger picture behind the scenes of Top, Rudkin, Whelan and all the other hangers on at board level that have killed this club from the inside. But canning Ruud and not inflicting his failings and shortcomings on the starting11 is a start...

I agree, Posted something similar in the match thread. He showed nothing at all from the dugout, No real encouragement, and his subs were baffling and a waste of time if I'm being honest

I have a no reason behind what I'm about to post but.... I have this strange gut feeling that due to his lack of...well any animation in the dug out, I think RvN has finally come to peace with it all and is going to walk. Purely for his own brand preservation more than anything else. He has the lack of backing in the transfer window as a ready made excuse.

No... that's an insult to dogshite

OK... this is the clean version of my intened post. RvN please just 'Fook off' now you completely clueless, weapons grade. B3llend. Your team selection and subs bench tonight just proves that you honestly lack any capacity to learn from the countless mistakes you have made. and continue to make. What you've being doing JUST DOESN'T WORK (sorry for shouting) surely you can see that?, we can, and have seen it so for a number of weeks. Our current league position and horrendously low points tally speaks volumes and proves it to be the case. So as of tonight my patience has run out, and you can do one' and I eagerly await the day you leave this club by whatever means. I just pray its soon.

Errrrr not.a fvcking snowball in hell's chance thank you very much.. Couldn't stand god awful Enzoball the first time we were subjected to it, so I definitely don't want a second dose, (anyway with the team we have it wouldn't work) its slowly being worked out at Chelsea (much the same as it did with us) and It wouldn't surprise me if its effectiveness dropped off now for them. Even Pep's possession based sore-fest tactics have finally been sussed and Man City's dominance is waining somewhat. When we have our own mini spells in matches PI$$ing around with it at the back we just invite pressure. So to do that as our main tactics just would be suicide.. It's a hideous, turgid brand/style of football that I never want associated with our club again. OK rant over.....

I think that's the same for most of our current players to on match days TBH

You never know. Maybe we'll get lucky, get another stuffing next match and he'll have the integrity and walk... well a man can dream .