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A thought on Starmer. He's not much of a politician! Some of Labour's choices in power leave a lot to be desired. That said, his decision to stay clear of the war is to be applauded. I reckon *any* of his predecessors as PM in memory (maybe back as far as Harold Wilson!) would have joined in with this s**tshow. It's the biggest decision a PM has to make, and I for one am glad he's got it 100 % correct. Credit where it's due (Hilariously, if Starmer could find a way of getting us back into lockstep with our European friends, he could go down as an all-time great! Crikey our country needs it. Go for it Keir)

Don't think Vance has principles

You used to be in the police, no?

Hmm, reading some posts made me wonder why the Tories are asking questions about Mandelson instead of Iran/US/Israel if they're really concerned about the "national interest"...

The far right are poison - always have been, always will be. Their popularity goes up and down, but the need to push back against their ideology never goes away. FWIW I've been just as concerned about the drift towards extremity the 'mainstream' Right. For example, many positions taken by the current Conservative party are hard to tell apart from NF of the 80's. (That the catalyst appears to have been alignment with cranks of dubious intellect in the US is...alarming and astounding in equal measures. It never ceases to amaze me about the lack of intellectual rigour behind RW positions. Nearly everyone on the current political hard right across the globe seems to be completely thick! But it's certainly possible to be thick and cunning! Fascinating.)

All of this is to laboriously note that the populations of Israel and Iran shouldn't be blamed for the actions of their evil leaders, unless of course they are active supporters or participants

You're tying yourself in knots here. The actions of Iran and Israel have been vile, and that's really all that needs to be said. Both are truly evil regimes on a historic scale. The above said, I really appreciate that you provide an Israel-aligned perspective on current affairs. I share your hopes that the forthcoming election can lead to positive change in Israel, but I'd simply note that (i) a population gets the government that it votes for (ii) recent actions in Gaza and the wider Middle East cast a long shadow. Pandora's box is well and truly open.

Made my day this haha

If you are talking about being in the police, that's not quite what I had in mind by 'serving' in that context. But respect where it's due - policing is tough. Still think your points about "SNOWFLAKES"(!) in the armed forces are way, way wide of the mark. It just isn't as simple as you made out... I guess you know that

"Inaccurate": yeah, some of them can unscrew a thermos

Well, with the honourable exception of UFS the matchday-going folks are utterly passive Anecdotal, but *every* supporter I know wants KP out. However, they're almost all prepared to do the square root of f**k all about it. Does that compute?

Official attendance 31K

Personally think Trump would get behind that chainsaw-wielding idiot if he decided to go for it. Luckily Argentina are more skint than we are On the hyperbole about the Navy, it seems that we were not consulted on the Israeli/US decision to go to war. Not sure how we'd be ready to sail on day one. When lives are at stake it's a little bit more complicated than shouting "SNOWFLAKES" Have you served, filthyfox?

Personally concerned the political Right's current alignment with Judaism/Israel is insincere and transactional. There are currently more votes (and more money) in demonising other minorities. History shows it can flip on a sixpence

If nothing else, this evil* situation makes it impossible to argue against the transition to renewable energy. Well, at least for anyone sane and/or not a paid-up fossil fuel lobbyist (*And it is *evil* in the truest sense of the word. You'd think the zealots lobbing bombs around would think twice about it, but they never do.)

Nobody defending the Iranian regime. Just as nobody defends the Israeli regime. If this war continues, that's how the US government will be viewed - a pariah

A lot of words amounting to a pathetic apology for the incompetent KP regime, I'm afraid - coupled with the usual ageism

Taking the game in isolation that's a really good point

It's a nasty kit, but that's nothing to do with being effeminate

Really really need something here

Ah, a KPFC

They'll put us away comfortably

There's next-to-nothing left to support

Taking a step back, what do you think of what Israel and US are doing?

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