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The table doesnt lie. We're the 18th placed team. Ahead of Ipswich and Southampton. Do we deserve to be ahead of anybody else. We've won 3 games and not sure I see us improving on that. Cooper was an odd appointment and doomed from the start. For all the positivity on here we've absolutely nose dived under Ruud in terms of results. 4 straight defeats now. A crucial game against a relegation rival we lost 3-0. 12 goals conceded. Scored once. We looked good against a thoroughly shaken man city in horrendous form, riddled with injuries on an unprecedented losing run matched only by us for poor form . We should have looked good and we should have won at home but we still lost 2-0. Stealing defeat from the jaws of victory. Ruud I'm not convinced by but he is at least changing in response to mistakess. The Wolves game needs to be made up for. Nice to see a plan and some nice sequences of play against Man City but think people are decieved by how absolutely woeful that man city side were. Expected a new manager bounce instead we're on a 4game losing streak. Playing ward was on him. Newcastle and wolves results on him. Every team has injuries this time of year. Its not realistic to think our first choice starting 11 will turn out each week, no team has that luxury except a couple of the big 6. Even Man city were playing their no2 goalkeeper and second choice cb pairing, rodri out injured. We're not an unlucky exception other teams are managing it and we haven't so far. We're not going to bring in fullbacks, wingers and a new striker on our budget that can slot straight into the starting 11 from day 1 so not that optimistic about the january transfer window turning it around. If Ruud learns from his many mistakes perhaps we knick 17th if wolves or West ham bannana skin. Honestly struggle to see it happening though. We needed Moyes. Except he probably didn't want or turned down the job.

We've conceded 12 goals in 4 games and think we've managed to score once. Given we will let 2-3 in do you think we're bagging a trio at villa park?

The cooper comment came from pure frustration at losing today. Your right it would be a strange universe. Still not convinced by RVN hope your right though and it is green shoots.

It's not the easiest deck of cards but all teams have injuries this time of year. Man city were absolutely riddled with injuries today for example. Its not just us having to improvise. Skipp is a 20million ex Tottenham international not exactly fresh out the academy. He chose to play Danny Ward which was a disaster when we had jacub. Why have we only just seen Facundo back starting and linking in well with bilal which we all knew he would. The subs are odd. These performances haven't been good enough. Apart from maybe Ipswich or southampton just where are we getting a result from? You don't play well and lose 2-0. When it mattered we made mistakes and our finishing was awful. Wolves was an unbelievable performance. Newcastle I wanted to cry. West Ham the first gane in charge with the players wanting to impress has been our only victory. It was ugly to watch but even cooper would have taken more points from the last 5 games. We're not playing well enough to stay up look at the results. Zero points in 4 games. Goal difference - 11

We've conceded 12 goals in 4 games and barely scored. Lost 2-0 to the only team with form as bad as ours who couldn't defend, riddled with injuries and low in confidence. Yes some nice sequences of play but pointless when the opposition are ahead with the pressure off. Hitting the post is just poor finishing. Think he's out his depth and it was completely the wrong situation for us to take a risk on a manager like him. It will be like this having the odd good performance (still losing 0-2) at home untill we are cut adrift and its too late. Our position in the table is dropping like a stone. The goals have dried up and we still cannot defend. This is supposed to be our season saving new manager bounce and we've lost 4 games on the run but its RVN who was a great player so the theory is we just wait because its all goibg to come good? The idea we get some new signings in January and it all clicks is delusional. All 20 teams will be looking to strengthen and our negotiations are from a place of weakness now. If it was a manager with a different name would we think this is going OK orv8s going to be Ok?

Yeah they are on the worst run of form in the league and if we can't do it today or against wolves or even bother to show up against Newcastle when does it happen. 0-2 loss at home. RVN fraud.

It's the hope that kills you. We've absolutely gifted them this win. It was their for the taking. Manure, villa, brighton all managed it.

Yes there have been some good sequences but Man City were 1-0 up they could sick back. Not taking good chances is poor finishing and thats what we've seen. Alan Shearer argued hitting the post is poor finishing and agree with that. We haven't taken chances that a team that a team that stays up would do.

Gutted

Facundo and bilal playing well together hopefully he isn't benched again when ayew returns.

I think the the fact man city are so wide open and we're still 1-0 down says a lot.

Mavi needs to stop playing backwards

Ward would have been nutmegged by the first shot ket alone make it to a follow up. Where was justin for the loose ball

Savinho first ever goal.........

The ever obliging.......

Yeah a full back must be near top of the wish list. Justin and ricardo were quality before their injuries but both looking on the downward curve sadly.

Can't argue the team selection too much other than maybe okoli for one of the sliw coaches. Vardy and Facundo for the Dakadisaster and Ayew is a stellar upgrade.

Daka is about as threatening as a pair of children's safety scissors.

We've let in 10 goals in 3 games. We're not in a position to afford a new inexperienced manager time to bed in to a new a league and have a transfer window. We're in the relegation spots and worst form in the league. Nearly januray. He was a terrible mistake from the board and on this form we wilp be cur adrift soon.

That scuffed shot was so poor. In a game when chances are so few you have to step up in those moments and it was poor and happens again and again with him. Cut our losses.

Danny does a jumping starfish finds himself nutmegged then kicks it in with his own heel. We'd be 6-0 down.

We really are crap. So many other players bury that chance.

Oh daka

Heard we only have ten minutes left on the smoke screen. Lets hope it holds out for another 45

A goal from from the right. Hmmm what an anomaly. Poor from mavs snd justin.