Dan

I really can see us losing again. They're dire but we've been even worse for the last few months tbh and they're going to be more motivated than us - not hard admittedly. 1-2.

Taylorban

Once again tells you absolutely everything you need to know about our board that they didn't put a relegation clause in there. They really were delusional enough to think that we were going to just rise from 16th. Imagine having them as your accountant. You'd be dead within two years.

Yeah our 'banter' songs are generally terrible to be honest. In fairness I don't think many are great for it but we're extremely drab. Pretty witless.

It has genuinely got to a point where any punishments we're dealt cannot be worse than putting out this sort of team. I'm hands down taking a Reading scenario over this.

Come on Southampton.

Can only conclude he is sabotaging us on purpose. Nobody can be this stupid.

I'm so pissed off at him. He was about 95% sure to get almost a free pass from me given how little I think of those above him and he's somehow managed to be that bad that it's enough to take some of the heat off them. That being said we shouldn't forget that this was Aiyawatt, and specifically Aiyawatt's choice.

I'm really fed up of reading how we can't afford X and Y. We always manage to find the money to squander on shite players but as soon as it comes to biting the bullet to save some face and some pride, there's no desire. This club is blatantly riddled in corruption.

People actually shill for this lot. I'll be able gladly to say that I didn't actively cheer on the demise of this club like many have done, but it won't make it any more tolerable. Sometimes I wish I was as dim as these people.

It just doesn't get more embarrassing than this does it.

He's been dealt a terrible hand by the most clueless board there's been at this level in as long as I can really remember - but his performance has been so unforgivably bad there just cannot be any possible circumstance he starts next season. I think it's frankly disgraceful he even had today. He has been that bad that I genuinely don't think I could have done any worse - I'm being deadly serious. He's been 'that' bad.

It is sadly just not a realistic proposition. If I was offered a few dreadful years to 'fix' the club I would take it, but I don't think it really works like that. In reality all we become is Stoke - bottom half in the Championship year in, year out. Circling the drain, crowds dwindling, utterly miserable, unenjoyable experience for literally everybody. Very, very bleak few years ahead for this club. We're on an absolutely terrifying trajectory.

Some entertainment for those there at least.

We won't go back up.

Failure of promoted clubs is nothing to worry about (yet) The link to that Martin Samuel article above - ended up down a rabbit hole of reading stuff from him (he's great I think). Would be interested to hear his views after what's played out this season.

In all seriousness, yes those two are worse. I'd throw Blackburn Rovers and Cardiff City into this as well. I thought their grounds when I visited last season were staggeringly quiet, just totally on the floor clubs. There was a thread on Twitter from a Cardiff an the other day - eerie similarities to us. The caveat for me is how much stronger a position we were in than any of those to begin with. Now we are still stronger than all of them, but we really could become a part of that group. I went to a Stoke game around 2019 time and it was depressingly bad. Ground about 40% full, just a really miserable chore of an experience. Since that day I've been worried that we could become this if we're not careful, and we really are going that way. I'd actually find supporting Reading less frustrating than this. Reading's fans have really mobilised against their issues and they have a team that are fighting and punching above their weight. Would be a genuinely incredible achievement if they got promoted. Although they are in a worse state than us, and weaker than us, I'd find being a fan in that scenario not even close to as frustrating as this.

Triple post here but I know a Newcastle fan who says these things to me in that a lot of their fans became incredibly apathetic about things as well. As low as I feel on us it isn't just us. Though it does feel unique to this country.

I thought this as well. Quite comparable in a few ways. You could tell he could relate to our frustration having likely gone through very similar.

Came in here to say the same - thought he was really, really good.

Come on Como.

It could be argued that their incompetence is why it happened now rather than a year ago which would've been more suitable. I'll save it for if he joins somebody like Aston Villa and has the sort of impact that could've been had on this season. I'm saying this as somebody who is probably club critical in about 80% of my posts these days.

Completely agree the more I think about it - really hope they don't do it, even though he is almost certainly not going to be beaten.

West Brom should rename their away end.

I'm hoping he gets to this so we don't have to have him go out at Bournemouth. Couldn't have had a much more miserable way to go out than already relegated in front of 10,000 fans.