Dan

Years of tolerating shit ***** like this. Make it ****ing vile out there anyone who is left.

They made you want Vestergaard and Soumare in the team!!!!

They're taking the piss out of you.

Pretty miserable I'd imagine

Ward starting for us. When is this club going to get some standards?

Genuinely what's the point? We are so so unserious.

Self-fulfilling prophecy. Got to justify their army of stewards at away games somehow. This is a club that bans people for literally nothing nowadays though.

This whole "this is where we are now" is a self-fulfilling prophecy. We are where we are now because of bad business. Don't do any more!

Would be a very typical signing of us in this day - the sort that solidifies our position as a poor team. We can do better.

It wasn't massive money really - in the context of what we've spent on players since. Faes, Okoli and Skipp all cost more! Atalanta are pretty mad in that they seem to have virtually nobody flop. Convinced they could sign Ward and he'd look like Buffon (probably too far)

It's a huge fumble isn't it. Said it before I was very on the fence so I can't sit here and absolutely blast us for it, but then I do look at some of the equivalent money we've wasted and it's pretty mad we never went for it. He's a comfortable £50mil+ player now.

This is about where I stand - jury still out but it's bound to be. I fear it's getting worse before it gets better though and the Ward pick is a massive red flag. He's got to do something about how many shots we're conceding.

Exactly the signing we should've made in that season. It was pretty obvious from that window they were going to pass us. Forest get a lot of stick but they've really gone out and got it. They don't hold onto dross for years. Just ruthlessly keep trying to improve their team. Depressed to say I'm quite envious.

I just cannot believe it's late 2024 and we're still doing this. This whole "Iversen in, he can't be any worse" is such a farcically stupid situation I cannot believe it's resurfaced again. How can this happen? Iversen isn't great but he is still substantially better than Ward. If he starts against Wolves I'll be at least a little relieved. I think we're screwed regardless though - we've allowed an embarrassingly high number of shots and we've only let in 38 in 16 (which is still nearly 2.5 a game) because our goalkeeper has been as good as any in the division. I don't think it's an exaggeration when I say that with Ward as a regular for us we could reach 80, possibly even 90 conceded this season.

I'm unsure how much backing he even gets in January - we didn't enter this season in a good financial state, we did end up spending quite a lot anyway (plenty wasted as usual) and we'll invariably fail to shift what we need to to free up the squad spaces and the money. Given he fell out with the board at PSV my expectation is he loses is pretty quickly with Rudkin.

If Ward starts we will lose. They can score goals for all their issues. I could see 2-3 or something.

I half agree in that if he can stick around here and really make some changes then I will support him even in spite of bad results. It's what the main sell for me was on Maresca - he clearly saw right through them and he wanted to change things. Yesterday was a disgrace though. He's going to lose me quite quickly if he plays Ward. What's the point in all of it when you start every game 2 down.

Ward is a red flag. Lets hope he's realised and it was a one off.

Remember on here when he got that contract extension how it was apparently 4D chess to get more money out of Watford. Turns out we've just spunked a load more money on an inadequate player for a load more years. Again. Life under Top & Rudkin.

Time to go. Another who a serious club would've gotten rid of years ago.

Luck - we're already on more points than we probably deserve to be and this obviously is a benefit. We've had a hell of a lot go our way this season. Southampton - and their persistence with Russell Martin. Possibility that Van Nistelrooy is very good - he might be. Few red flags in that earlier but he's got benefit of the doubt for me at the minute. I'll judge him on how he reacts.

Van Nistelrooy should probably realise now we need quite an overhaul. I'd imagine he'll get fed up when Rudkin serves up his usual in January.

Fallen right into another one haven't we. Was never ever worth what we paid.

Culture of zero accountability breeds bad results. Colour me shocked.

Completely justified anyone leaving early from that. Isn't close to comparable to leave a game when you're chasing an equaliser to today when the club are basically taking the piss out of the fans.