BoneDog

Haha, no I've changed my mind on that. You see, I'd not known about the phone call before, but once I saw this I knew I was wrong and that they did go to the moon.

The suspects or perpetrators involved in the first two in that list were well known to intelligence way before and up to the terrorist attacks. I honestly thought everyone knew that. Some were even in contact with one service or another. I don't know anything about the other two, but if it was Al Q then that is all you need to know, because I know for a fact that anybody who watches the news has been told of their top mens (men who give orders to terrorists) involvement with security services. I think it's quite shameful for an adult in this day and age not to have some knowledge of how state's are involved in these activities. There we go again with the nonsense. For a start, the anti-semite thing is just untrue and totally meaningless, but keep throwing the accusation around if you wish. Secondly, no I don't blame one security service more than another. They all probably have many people working against terrorism, but without doubt they all have rogue elements, which has been well documented throughout recent history. Why not just concentrate on what I'm saying in the present instead of some crap I might have said in the past. Why would you await such a thing from me? You must be confusing me with someone else.

I'd buy Grant a pint but only had £3 on it so he can swivvle.

I blamed both. Only cognitive dissonance or ignorance could cause someone to not realise that security services from France, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Nigeria, the USA, the UK and countless more places are involved in terrorism and also in recruiting terrorists. A small group of people in security services are without doubt involved. It's not like there's a lack of evidence of that. I'm sure you could find documents for every year since WW2 that show this. It helps to start new wars, which economies like the US's depend on, it helps to creep in new laws and it helps secure constant and larger budgets for the security services. Instead of showing slight ridicule towards my comments why not explain why you know that security services aren't involved? Maybe you could convince me.

Probably. Weapons are so readily available that terrorists have no shortage of opportunity. Anybody with a container can buy as much petrol as they so desire, without security checks. You can read how to make home-made bombs using household goods in newspaper internet archives. You can get hold of grenades and guns almost anywhere in the country if you really want them. And so on. If there were terrorist cells all over the place then I think that attacks would be happening every week and everywjere, purely because of the availability of equipment, and the abundance of misguided goons. All terrorist cells I know of also have suspicious relationships with security services, which makes it seem to me that they follow orders otherwise I believe we'd see attacks more often.

Of the scores of terrorist attacks I've ever read of I can't remember one case where the attackers were not known to security services. In many cases they had actually had contact with security services. So maybe if we spent less time and money spying on every single citizen in the country and concentrated the efforts on actual suspicious individuals and groups the country would be much safer.

Gone for Adam McGurk anytime scorer 3/1 Go on the McGurk

Nearly had enough gold coins to buy a new fridge tonight if these two came in. Was just starting to get upset and was talking in a high pitched voice about Brentford not scoring and Burnley not helping at Vale when Burton nicked a late winner and made this one come in around 33/1 Doubled the online stack tonight. Gonna lose half again on Saturday. COME ON!

12/1 BTTS @ 16/1 over 2.5 @ Brentford Swindon Carlisle Sheff Wed Huddersfield Port Vale Millwall Forest Rochdale Charlton

What happened to The Bumming Thread?

On the dog walk half an hour ago I stopped at this farmers field lane entrance to see if Virgo wanted to do a number two (poo) when I heard a lady having sex in the house next to the lane. Would have liked to hang around in a way to enjoy the show, but got away sharpish as it felt a bit wrong to listen in. Sex noises are pretty good fun. Never heard a bloke, but if he's anything like me he's a quiet assassin. I'd like to think it was two lesbo's but it's not that exotic around here. Weird thing is I heard another woman about three weeks ago 75 metres down the road at another house. She was really giving it some aswell. Didn't give a f*&k who heard. Never heard this kind of thing on a dog walk before and then I hear it twice in a month. Actually, I'm starting to wonder if they see me on the dog walk every night and they're pretending to have sex to try and turn me on because they want me.

That's harsh. Your best mate sounds like a son of a bitch. Needs getting in a headlock and giving a severe talking to.

Fine job.

Had £1 on both of these pot luckers. More bets going on after 2pm. COME ON 18/1 Over 2.5 @ Bolton Shrewsbury Cambridge Mansfield 17/1 Over 2.5 @ Bournemouth Charlton Sheff Wed Doncaster

On Paddy Power bet £20 win or £10 each way on top Prem scorer and get a free £2 bet every time he scores this season. Max £10 free bets per week. I rarely bet a big purple note but will be having a crack on that tonight. Should be easy to get at least 20 back with a fair few free £2's over the season.

Haha that's pretty epic!

Not from there but thinking of moving there. It was a home made ghetto swimming pool with an inflated lorry inner tube floating on top for luxury relaxing.

I don't know how they can do it. I murdered a robin red breast on my back garden with a skilled pellet gun 10-20 metre shot when I was about 10 and felt enormous guilt straight away. Buried it next to my swimming pool and asked The Lord to forgive me. The only thing I ever shot after that was my mates even though I always had a weapon and all my mates used to go hunting. In a dangerous situation I'd have no qualms about blowing a mothachoka's head off if I had a Beretta handy, and I'd defo punch Jaws in the face and try to poke it's eyes out or AK a lion if I had to, but I could never just walk up to a giraffe and go "SURPRISE MOTHERF*&KER" and shotgun him in the throat before high-fiving the lads and posing for facebook photos. It's bloody outrageous!

We've had both in the last 10 months and the wedding cost at least 3 times as much as the funeral. Funeral cost £4k, not sure on the wedding but was more than £12k. Outrageous prices.

Was chillin with a flat spliff and remembered this

I shake my head in disbelief especially when they are the first to reply in a thread.

Why can't somebody invent an invisible forcefield motorbike helmet? The earth is flying at 60,000mph through empty space and my hair never gets messed up because of the invisible forcefield thingy, yet when I do 60 down the train tracks on the bike my hair is all over the place. Surely it just takes a bit of wizardry and harnessing of a couple of forces of nature to create.

Has the private jet got a jacuzzi and pool table?