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It's this fixation on genitals I don't understand. There can be a 5' nothing trans woman who has been on puberty blockers and hormones for 10 years, but has not been able to get surgery. Or you could have Tyson Fury identifying as a female and using his money to get all the surgery required to fit your previous stated definition of "castrated" but only been on hormones for 6 months. You also have women that were born women but have high testosterone levels and look kinda manly, and there will be some women that look more like a man than some trans women. So how are you going to enforce it? Ask for proof of sex at birth before you are allowed in or a quick peek in their pants. There is no logical application of any rule that could be used that wouldn't risk causing offence and more distress. This is the problem with all of this we have spent centuries creating a binary world, now people are breaking out of these binary definitions and we're just not set up to cope with it. You can't deny a safe space to vulnerable trans woman. You can't create and maintain specific trans safe spaces nationwide when it is such a small minority. You can't deny the feelings of vulnerable cis women. You can't demand proof of sex at birth or presence of genitals in any ethical way. You can't force trans women into male spaces where they might be put at risk. It's an impossible situation which is why it is perfect to stoke up feelings on all sides with a manufactured culture war. It doesn't matter that the number of these theoretical situations that we are talking about is minimal. Trans woman have been using female spaces for decades without issue, but the difference now is there are certain agents on both sides pushing agendas and creating division and distrust.

Yes, and I'm deliberately highlighting the stupidness of making it about genitals. The previous comments are about whether a trans woman has a penis and if they've been "castrated" then it's a different matter. Even if you did judge a trans woman's threat level by the presence or not of a penis how on earth do you enforce it. Safety is a very real concern but how on earth do approve someone, trans or otherwise, of being allowed in a safe space based on potential threat. You just can't.

Again the problem there is males, boys being gross. Female's can and do use urinals at festivals with a bit of help from a She Pee, we could also go down the French hole in the ground squatters. I can think of many times the queue for the ladies is huge and the gents has no queue and free cubicles. Split it out as sitting and standing rather than male and female, more toilets for women to use and more options when it is busy.

So a trans woman without a penis is fine in these spaces? What about a trans man who has had loads of hormone replacement is jacked on testosterone and got a big old beard, but can't afford willy surgery? Who's going to pay for all these extra bouncers on toilets inspecting the contents of everyone's pants? Yes I'm being flippant, the point is it cannot be about genitals, it cannot be the logistical impossibility of providing toilets and changing rooms to cover all possibilities. The actual practicalities of it quite simple. Women's toilets are all cubicles so unless I've misunderstood how women use them I don't see an issue. I assume the genitals stay covered until they have entered the cubicle and locked the door and they don't enter the toilet block take all their clothes off then find a cubicle. Changing rooms for swimming pools will often have private cubicles for changing in for either a trans person to change in or a women that feels threatened to use, I wouldn't be against legislation saying these need to be more common, it benefits a lot of people outside the trans debate. Crisis centres are a different matter but never having been to one I assume it is not a big open space and most people's genitals will stay covered, there will be private spaces and understanding of people's feelings.

We should be focussing on the how and why male behaviour makes women and trans woman and trans men and queer men and even a lot cis males feel threatened. We've allowed a society to develop where toxic aggressive masculinity is encouraged and praised. We see it in sport, in business, in entertainment, in politics everywhere we look there are countless examples of aggressive behaviour unchecked. Work on reducing the threat of men and you never know we might even be able to use the same toilets one day.

Interesting that the solution is more safe spaces and more toilets and not looking at the actual root cause of the issue. Us. Men. We really need to be better.

Read the thread Jon, I have said the exact opposite to that in my first post.

Nuance, I appreciate that word is a tricky one. The identification of sex in the womb is based purely on what they can physically see between their legs on an ultrasound scan. There are chromosomal anomalies such as xxy xyy xxx, there is also hermaphroditism and a reasonable amount of guess work. There is also the matter of self identification, which is what I assume you are glibly referring to. Imagine you are someone struggling with your identity and want to talk to your parents about it. How much harder do you think it will be knowing that a man died so they could celebrate the fact you have their desired set of genitals. https://www.todaysparent.com/blogs/trending/gender-reveal-parties-that-ended-in-tragedy/

There are a number of elements that make them beyond crass not least the fact that gender is rather more nuanced than pink/blue. Ask yourself what are they actually celebrating? The genitals of their unborn child. And if you really do care whether you have a boy or a girl then recording your reaction to your unborn disappointment for them to see when they are old enough to understand is not a good idea. But essentially you are right it's just a reason to celebrate, it just really seems to have captured the imagination of the brain-dead morons. Just Google gender reveal gone wrong for stories of crocodiles, explosives, wildfires and just a catalogue of waste, littering and thoughtlessness.

Whilst I agree that gender reveals are the height of crassness and vanity, I don't think you can blame them for this death. Clearly there was something structurally wrong with the plane and if hadn't been this pilot at this event it would have been the next pilot at the next event. Saying that not one of the guests gave a shit about the plane breaking into pieces and the safety of the pilot inside. Instead celebrating the random outcome of a 50/50 biological chance.

The rise and fall of the influencer will be an interesting case study in years to come. Those that initially rose to fame on social media through being genuinely interesting, engaging and knowledgeable paved the way for the fame hungry desperados. Not a new phenomenon, it's just mirroring the reality TV surge, but one that married to the regulation free world of social media is just a breeding ground for the obsessed and unscrupulous. Only this morning there was an article about a parenting influencer that has been arrested for child abuse, there was the nutrition influencer (raw food diet) that seemingly died due to her poor diet not that long ago. Andrew Tate! The numerous thoughtless, reckless, downright dangerous stunts and crazes that we read about on a weekly basis. At what point do the social media platforms need to take greater responsibility for the content they host?

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I think I read somewhere that we are only the 7th team to win our first 4 games in the championship, this might be since it became the championship or another caveat or I completely misread/misremembered it. It was a surprisingly low number of teams that win their first 4 games. It's an incredibly tough and competitive division.