interesting stats

[Guest]

According to ESPN

 

Goals scored

 

Cambiasso 4

Vardy 3

Schlupp 3

 

Shots/Shots on target

 

Schlupp 37/7

Vardy 32/16

Cambiasso 18/5

 

Surprisingly Mahrez has most shots 52/19

 

Assists

 

Vardy 6

Cambiasso 1

Schlupp 1

 

Fouls suffered/Fouls committed

 

Schlupp 43/26

Vardy 21/31

Cambiasso 10/12

 

I think these stats reflect that Vardy and Schlupp have been far more beneficial to us than most people say.

 

Vardy is shooting 1 out of every 2 on target, Has by far the highest assists and it is Schlupp who teams are most worried about fouling him far more than any other player and far more than he fouls (James is the only other player to have a positive statistic in the fouls table).

 

Thoughts?

[Guest]

Whoscored.com are another stats site.

 

Pass success percentage 

 

Cambiasso 75.4 (and think how many are 3 yds backwards)

Schlupp 74

Vardy 63.7

[Munshi]

Sure cambiasso has more than one assist this season?

[Guest]

Sure cambiasso has more than one assist this season?

 

Well on the 3 respected sites I've visited that's what it says. Perhaps the appearance isn't the fact but if he has I'm sure someone will direct us to the site.

[Guest Col city fan]

Well on the 3 respected sites I've visited that's what it says. Perhaps the appearance isn't the fact but if he has I'm sure someone will direct us to the site.

There's no point putting up stats like these. I think Lee put up a set of stats a few weeks ago. Largely ignored.

People have already made up their minds who is 'class' and who is 'shite' already.

In fact, did so before the season started probably.

[teblin]

There's no point putting up stats like these. I think Lee put up a set of stats a few weeks ago. Largely ignored.

People have already made up their minds who is 'class' and who is 'shite' already.

In fact, did so before the season started probably.

 

Would you like some fish for your other shoulder?

 

Sorry!

Edited 14 April 2015 by teblin

[Guest Col city fan]

Would you like some fish for your other shoulder?

Sorry!

Is the typical response....

Comment on the stats.

Edited 14 April 2015 by Col city fan

[ScouseFox]

There's no point putting up stats like these. I think Lee put up a set of stats a few weeks ago. Largely ignored.

People have already made up their minds who is 'class' and who is 'shite' already.

In fact, did so before the season started probably.

 

i'd say there was a point, but you can bend stats to suit any argument. from the off the point of these "interesting" stats seems pretty irrelevant, as they are comparing a central midfielder, a striker and a left winger/wing back. there is literally no stat that could fairly compare those three positions. 

 

and then there's comments like "think of how many are three yards backwards". well i'd argue that not many of cambiasso's passes are as such. in fact i'd say he was comfortably the most "ambitious" passer on our team. and as such you're once again skewing the stat of pass completion by seemingly trying to discount simple passes. 

 

 

and as with lee's thread earlier in the season, i could easily again go through a list of some of the best players in the world who you can use stats to make them look like sunday league players. iniesta the main example. playing pretty much every game with a front three of messi, suarez and neymar in front of him, one of the best players of all time went over a year without a goal or an assist. doesn't mean he's "shite", does it? 

[Guest]

I certainly don't think Cambiasso is "shite" ludicrous comment. Just hope people will realise that Schlupp and Vardy are not "shite" either.

 

btw on the website mentioned it looks just at passing, including long balls which Cambiasso is obviously the highest in ( passes in general of course), I think the fact that Schlupp's passing percentage is about the same though is ignored by many.

 

And the fact that he is fouled 4 times as often in less minutes than Cambiasso shows what a threat the guy is. However people just like to class him as "shite". 

 

The site looks at defending and attacking stats as well and then overall.

 

Schlupp (both as a defender and midfielder and overall) has a much higher rating overall than Camby who is very slightly higher than Vardy.

 

Don't take this as a knock on Cambiclasso but as an eye opener on how important Jeff and Vards are for us.

[ScouseFox]

As a left back he is abhorrent. Saturday was just another example of that it seems. And I agree with fez's thread from the weekend in which someone described Schlupp as "as good as he is bad" when he plays as a winger.

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

Well the assist stat is such a joke, only highlighted by the fact that Cambiasso should get an assist stat for Vardys Goal this weekend, where as Maherz will not get one for one of the most sumptuous passes seen down the KP this season when one of our strikers ballses up a simple chance.

 

In short, shove the stats, my eyes don't need stats to tell me what's good and what's not and as is often repeated, all too easy to make stats suit your argument in any walk of life.

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

There's no point putting up stats like these. I think Lee put up a set of stats a few weeks ago. Largely ignored.

People have already made up their minds who is 'class' and who is 'shite' already.

In fact, did so before the season started probably.

 

comments like this that make people have digs at you in the Cambiasso thread Col, you decided Cambi was 'shite' before the season started and every comment you've made since has highlighted this, your 'balanced' view of giving him faint praise with some caveats when he's been exceptional just highlights this.

[Guest]

Well the assist stat is such a joke, only highlighted by the fact that Cambiasso should get an assist stat for Vardys Goal this weekend, where as Maherz will not get one for one of the most sumptuous passes seen down the KP this season when one of our strikers ballses up a simple chance.

 

In short, shove the stats, my eyes don't need stats to tell me what's good and what's not and as is often repeated, all too easy to make stats suit your argument in any walk of life.

 

Ooookay. Shove stats when they don't suit you.

 

Now all we need is to see every game through your eyes.

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

Nothing to do with suiting me or not, I could just as easily look for stats to combat any stats I don't like, anyone can do this. Not shove the stats I don't like, shove all the stats. The only stat that matters to me is having more points than 3 other teams at the end of the season.

[Ollie93]

Just waiting for this to turn into a Pearson in/Pearson out debate.

[Babylon]

So that's 1 more assist than Lee Cattermole

4 more goals than Lee Cattermole

and 10 yellow cards less than Cattermole

People have already made up their minds who is 'class' and who is 'shite' already.
In fact, did so before the season started probably.

You can't see the irony in this?

[Guest]

So that's 1 more assist than Lee Cattermole

4 more goals than Lee Cattermole

and 10 yellow cards less than Cattermole

You can't see the irony in this?

 

Sorry I don't understand. This is a Leicester thread particularly looking at Vards, Jeff and Cambi. What's the Cattermole derailing?

[Babylon]

Sorry I don't understand. This is a Leicester thread particularly looking at Vards, Jeff and Cambi. What's the Cattermole derailing?

You know very well what it's about.

[David Guiza]

There's no point putting up stats like these. I think Lee put up a set of stats a few weeks ago. Largely ignored.

People have already made up their minds who is 'class' and who is 'shite' already.

In fact, did so before the season started probably.

Said the same thing in one of those threads a month or two ago. Stats can mean everything and nothing, it's always good to know what's going on in the game in terms of stats, but there's far more to it. E.g with the shots cattegory alone, there is so much to take into account, such as the difficulty of the chance, range, narrowly wide or a snail botherer into the keepers' arms etc.

Furthermore, based on stats, Mo Salah was a far better transfer target for Chelsea than Christian Eriksen.

[Soar Fox]

So that's 1 more assist than Lee Cattermole

4 more goals than Lee Cattermole

and 10 yellow cards less than Cattermole

You can't see the irony in this?

This is going to be good...

[Guest]

You know very well what it's about.

Nothing to do with this thread.

 

Some argument you have with Col perhaps!

[Babylon]

Nothing to do with this thread.

We were asked to comment on the stats, I was offering a comparison to a player touted as being wanted instead of him.

[Guest]

Said the same thing in one of those threads a month or two ago. Stats can mean everything and nothing, it's always good to know what's going on in the game in terms of stats, but there's far more to it. E.g with the shots cattegory alone, there is so much to take into account, such as the difficulty of the chance, range, narrowly wide or a snail botherer into the keepers' arms etc.

Furthermore, based on stats, Mo Salah was a far better transfer target for Chelsea than Christian Eriksen.

 

I think that 16 of 32 shots being on target is a pretty convincing statistic. 

 

Look at everyone else's in our team!

 

Cambi isn't a striker but people have been hero worshipping his shots and yet he's hit the target just 5 of 18. If that's decent then Vardy's is exceptional.

 

We've had a big problem scoring from chances this season, perhaps Vardy is the answer.

 

btw narrowly wide is less useful thatn going out for a corner. shots need to be on target.

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

I think that 16 of 32 shots being on target is a pretty convincing statistic. 

 

Look at everyone else's in our team!

 

Cambi isn't a striker but people have been hero worshipping his shots and yet he's hit the target just 5 of 18. If that's decent then Vardy's is exceptional.

 

We've had a big problem scoring from chances this season, perhaps Vardy is the answer.

 

btw narrowly wide is less useful thatn going out for a corner. shots need to be on target.

 

18 shots, 5 on target and 4 goals, dunno how you're trying to dress that up as a bad stat.

[Guest Col city fan]

comments like this that make people have digs at you in the Cambiasso thread Col, you decided Cambi was 'shite' before the season started and every comment you've made since has highlighted this, your 'balanced' view of giving him faint praise with some caveats when he's been exceptional just highlights this.

Typical.

I've not once said Cambiasso is 'shite'. Not once. What I have said is I don't rate him as much as the masses AND he needs support due to his ageing legs.

The 'shite' I referred to was alluding to people's mass criticism, (there's been threads on it) of young Schlupp.

Even though the stats pretty much suggest otherwise?

Cambiasso's thread....amazingly positive.

Schlupp's thread..pretty much the opposite.

When the stats suggest they've been pretty much equally as effective/ineffective.

Ironic? Spot on.

Edited 14 April 2015 by Col city fan