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lol

 

The same people who say if we go down the buck stops with the manager now saying if we stay up it's nothing to do with him. lol

 

Yeah, can't be the players doing either, because he signed the majority of them, or the owners, because they stuck by him through bad times when they should of sacked him, so it's obviously some form of, hmm, magic, maybe? .

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Many of our problems have been self inflicted through the manager and the players- very rarely have we been outclassed or battered, and sometimes decisions have been crucial from the officials.

 

Just need to stick to our guns and keep playing the way we've been in the last few games- if we have to outscore sides in 3-2 and 4-3 wins then so be it. Going forward we look much better than when we set up conservatively. Our tempo, combined with the intensity, could give us an edge in matches against sides with not as much to play for.

 

Pretty much this. Pearson for some bizarre reason tinkered with things to the extent I thought there was absolutely no coming back but the international break came at the right time. Think it's exactly what we needed. A period of time to just sit back and assess where exactly things are going wrong. The results and performances since then have been exactly the kind I knew the entire time we were capable of.

 

It's actually a very encouraging basis to work from because I still think there's a hell of a lot of room for improvement in our side.

 

I just worry a little that Pearson may try to change things again. He changed something that worked last time.

 

He seems to have developed as a manager in a fortnight. I just hope if he does keep us up that he sticks with this kind of philosophy, because I haven't seen many sides in the bottom half (Burnley maybe) come to us and attack away at us like we did at West Brom.

 

We're absolute dross at trying to pinch a result and Stoke/Hull away doesn't change that. Even they were both largely down to terrible finishing rather than good defending. I'm happy to accept we'll concede goals if we're going to try and score them too.

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I personally think if we'd stuck with the game we're most effective at throughout this season we could be above the likes of Newcastle. I said it in pre-season and I stand by it. It really isn't that strong a division and no amount of $ky propaganda can convince me that teams like West Brom, Villa etc... aren't dross.

 

I'm not claiming we haven't been ourselves but I put that more down to our own stupid tinkering rather than the strength of others.

 

I think we are on a par with a lot of teams but at the same time, we are worse than them - glad you recognise this. 

 

My point is more that a lot of the Pearson out brigade seem to think we have a divine right to win with the players we have and are saying that it's because of him that we are crap.  It's a shared thing and he could have strengthened in other areas, and I believe he did with Krama and Huth (and to some extent Schwarzer).  

 

The encouraging thing out of this is that we've at least competed in every game (bar Swansea which was abysmal) and shown that we can at least belong here.  Burnley get a lot of credit for competing and I think we are hard done by in the fact that we don't,

 

We'll keep fighting hopefully...

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Arguing whether Pearson is good enough for this league is totally pointless at this stage in the season. He won't be leaving now till the end of the season and then we'll find out whether he is or not.

We've had some absolutely dire performances but at the same time never suffered a 5 or 4-0 humiliation, in fact the only time we conced four was in a game we scored 3 ourselves and were unlucky to get a point out of.

It's clear we didn't get the right quality necessary in the summer, but after sacking Robinson and bringing in Huth and Kramaric who both look to be good bits of business. Again whether Robinson was a scapegoat or not is also a factor but one we're never likely to know.

For me, and generally for newly promoted teams, survival is the main goal. For some this might not be the case but in the event we stay up I would think next year is the season to judge progress. Hopefully making Huth permanent deal and keeping Kramaric whilst adding a LB, possibly a CB, a LW, a CM and maybe a new striker whilst offloading the deadwood would be good but vitally if by October we're in a similar position I'd look for a new man to take the mantle.

Until and if that happens, Pearson is our man and the best we can do is get behind the team and hope we stay up. Then I can look back at that Man U game with a smile :)

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Are you deliberately being obtuse?

 

You're saying he's not good enough because we're at the bottom of the table. The season isn't over yet and we have a played most of our tough fixtures (which other teams still have to play) already.

 

I don't really see any point in drawing conclusions before you have a result.

I really think posters should be banned from starting their posts with phrases like "You're saying..." as they always then go on to state a view that bears NO resemblance to your own.

What i am saying, with words that have actually left my keyboard is "Pearson has had a piss-poor season so far."

To use your own trick against you: what you're saying is that you like licking monkey's balls when not watching City. :D

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2 points here. First, certainly Pearson has not been the "best man for the job" this season, just look at here we are. And if we should escape it certainly won't be down to him. Secondly to put him in the same League as Cloughie just shows how ignorant some folk are.

You're right, Pearson isn't even close to being like Cloughie. The blokes a bloody idiot for trying to compare them.

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You're right, Pearson isn't even close to being like Cloughie. The blokes a bloody idiot for trying to compare them.

 

Well they both like wearing track pants and white trainers...

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I really think posters should be banned from starting their posts with phrases like "You're saying..." as they always then go on to state a view that bears NO resemblance to your own.

What i am saying, with words that have actually left my keyboard is "Pearson has had a piss-poor season so far."

To use your own trick against you: what you're saying is that you like licking monkey's balls when not watching City. :D

 

And now you're back tracking. What's the point? You agreed with someone that said he wasn't a good Premier League manager. When questioned about the reasoning you start throwing in 'bad season so far'. If you're going to have an opinion at least have the balls to discuss it rather than covering your arse whatever happens.

 

I don't have a problem with people thinking he's shit but if you're going to post sarcy comments that you 'don't actually mean' then you should probably expect to be called up on them.

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And now you're back tracking. What's the point? You agreed with someone that said he wasn't a good Premier League manager. When questioned about the reasoning you start throwing in 'bad season so far'. If you're going to have an opinion at least have the balls to discuss it rather than covering your arse whatever happens.

 

I don't have a problem with people thinking he's shit but if you're going to post sarcy comments that you 'don't actually mean' then you should probably expect to be called up on them.

I'm not back-tracking I simply haven't made the comments you are bizarrely trying to attribute to me.

If you're going to use 'quote marks' it's helpful to put them around something that I have actually said. You're just arguing with yourself otherwise.

So, you're saying that you "enjoy licking monkey balls most weekends but not at xmas."

Do you see what I mean?

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Before the season kicked off, I and most other fans (I assume) would've been happy finishing 17th, wouldn't they? Survival on our first time back, and a platform to build on for the future!

Now we have set ourselves up for a grandstand finish with 4 other teams, that could potentially go down to the last kick of the final game. Yes it would be nice to be safe with games to play, but this is football, this is how we seem to do things, and I wouldn't change it for the world. Yes it has been dreadful at times this season watching us concede last minute goals and shooting ourselves in the foot. Much like the Forest game a couple of years back, it's make or break. The highs, the lows, the nervousness of it all, the tension and the moments which couldn't be rivalled any other way in life, it's what it's all about. Or we could be Stoke, that'd be fun wouldn't it!

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Say the remaining fixtures go hugely in our favour.

We finish on 39 points after wins against Swansea, Burnley, Newcastle, QPR and a couple of draws against Soton and Sunderland. We're safe before the last game of the season. Unlikely but not impossible, I think most would agree.

Burnley, meanwhile, attain broadly their season average points per game finish on 32 points and go down on the last day of the season.

Sean Dyche is lauded as an almost miracle worker who has had a sensational season or two.

Down in Leicester, I am absolutely positive that Nigel Pearson would be regarded as 'lucky' by some. Others would still want him sacked because we only stayed up thanks to a late charge apparently 'nothing to do with him'.

Most logical people, of which there are quite a few in this thread to be fair, would and are suggesting that it doesn't matter what order you pick up your points. That should absolutely be the case - let's support the team and manager and see where we are after 38 games before we start judging what is a good or bad season.

After all, why should a manager's future effectively rest on the fixture computer?

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I really think posters should be banned from starting their posts with phrases like "You're saying..." as they always then go on to state a view that bears NO resemblance to your own.

 

So basically you're saying that as a nation we should privatise the NHS, come out of the EU altogether and reduce the foreign aid budget to 0.2%

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I'm not back-tracking I simply haven't made the comments you are bizarrely trying to attribute to me.

If you're going to use 'quote marks' it's helpful to put them around something that I have actually said. You're just arguing with yourself otherwise.

So, you're saying that you "enjoy licking monkey balls most weekends but not at xmas."

Do you see what I mean?

What? You did say "bad season so far". Sorry, that was meant to be in actual quotation marks. As for 'don't actually mean', that was something you did say but I paraphrased..

 

This is futile, like talking to a child.

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What? You did say "bad season so far". Sorry, that was meant to be in actual quotation marks. As for 'don't actually mean', that was something you did say but I paraphrased..

 

This is futile, like talking to a child.

 

Talking to a child would be an improvement.

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