Oasisedup Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 And not just when it comes to swearing at precocious journalists. For a man who is outwardly straight-laced and sombre (dour, even), Nige seems to have attracted more than his fair share of last-day drama throughout his career. When you consider his CV, it's littered with dramatic, last-day games in which his team pull off the near-impossible and survive against relegation. (Southampton, WBA, Carlisle....) Perhaps, this can give us comfort if (and I know it is a big if) we have a chance of staying up on the final day against QPR. Comfort that big Nige can just about do the job.... For anyone who's interested, there's a new post here: http://inbignigewetrust.blogspot.co.uk/ Glad for anyone's thoughts.
Fox Ulike Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 Yeah good article. I guess you could add Knocky’s late winner at Forest to the list of Pearson’s last-gasp heroics. It makes an interesting point to those calling for a manager with more Premiership ‘experience’. What Manager has more experience of dragging a team to safety by the skin of its bollox? Pearson is an old-fashioned manager who rules through the strength of his personality. His players fight to the last for him, and heads never go down. In the last few games this may well prove more important than having a manager who is more tactically astute at this level. Pearson is our Cloughie. Unfortunately he just hasn’t got a Peter Taylor to back him up. But maybe Pearson is exactly the right man for a team in our current position…?
shailen Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 A lot of people say Pearson is not a good Premier League manager, yet how do you know that when this is the first season he has ever managed in this league. He has proven that he can get the current team we have playing good football and accumulating points. That is why Pearson is best man for the job. We could employ one of these 'so-called' miracle workers like Pulis...etc, but any one new to the job will take a while to get used to things and whilst we are playing well I don't see the point.
Fox Ulike Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 A lot of people say Pearson is not a good Premier League manager, yet how do you know that when this is the first season he has ever managed in this league. He has proven that he can get the current team we have playing good football and accumulating points. That is why Pearson is best man for the job. We could employ one of these 'so-called' miracle workers like Pulis...etc, but any one new to the job will take a while to get used to things and whilst we are playing well I don't see the point. You look at the league table. That's the first clue.
David Hankey Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 2 points here. First, certainly Pearson has not been the "best man for the job" this season, just look at here we are. And if we should escape it certainly won't be down to him. Secondly to put him in the same League as Cloughie just shows how ignorant some folk are.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 2 points here. First, certainly Pearson has not been the "best man for the job" this season, just look at here we are. And if we should escape it certainly won't be down to him. Secondly to put him in the same League as Cloughie just shows how ignorant some folk are. lol lol lol lol Nothing quite like jumping from one extreme to the other. Deary me.
David Hankey Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 Nothing quite like jumping from one extreme to the other. Deary me. And your point is?!!
Gerard Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 Pearson is our Cloughie. Unfortunately he just hasn’t got a Peter Taylor to back him up. Anyone under the age of 30 might be baffled by that statement and think Pearson and our ex "manager" might form some sort of dream team.
SpacedX Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 2 points here. First, certainly Pearson has not been the "best man for the job" this season, just look at here we are. And if we should escape it certainly won't be down to him. Secondly to put him in the same League as Cloughie just shows how ignorant some folk are. Actually I disagree. Although I hold him entirely responsible for our situation, he has at last begun to effect positive decisive action when it matters. He's also made some key substitutions and changed formation to at the very least allow us to go down fighting as opposed to the ignominious capitulation associated with the containment game. Recently he's showed creativity in his selections and the willingness and ability to adapt his strategy during a match which was unheard of a month ago. Next, armband to Cambiasso and banish the ex Forest fool back to Nottingham.
ARTY_FOX Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 How can it possibly be all Pearsons fault should we go down but have nothing to do with him if we survive?
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 And your point is?!! If you can't see the irony in the imbalance of both opinions then you won't get my point, clearly.
Fox Ulike Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 2 points here. First, certainly Pearson has not been the "best man for the job" this season, just look at here we are. And if we should escape it certainly won't be down to him. Secondly to put him in the same League as Cloughie just shows how ignorant some folk are. 2 points here, David Hankey. Point A: surely a better definition of ignorant would be someone who holds Pearson for responsible for our failures,, but not our successes? How does that even work? Point B: A good definition of 'willfully oblivious' would be someone who thinks that making comparisons between Pearson and Clough is the same thing as "putting them in the same league". Also, being pedantic, Pearson and Clough both managed in "the same league" you moron! It's called the Premiership.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 How can it possibly be all Pearsons fault should we go down but have nothing to do with him if we survive? Because, erm, hmmm. I'm sure someone who doesn't like Nige will give you a definitive and outright indisputable answer, just give it a minute.
Fox Ulike Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 Anyone under the age of 30 might be baffled by that statement and think Pearson and our ex "manager" might form some sort of dream team. Shit you're right! I hate it when I show my age. I'm off to listen to Iggy Azalea yo.
EnglishOxide Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 A lot of people say Pearson is not a good Premier League manager, yet how do you know that when this is the first season he has ever managed in this league. The same people who over the last few years were saying we should sack him because he had never been promoted from the championship. Ridiculous.
Haydos Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 You look at the league table. That's the first clue. So if we stay up you'll happily admit he's good enough then? That's a relief.
Corky Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 Pearson ends seasons well with us, often when the pressure is on (even last year when promotion was sealed). Final six matches tends to achieve a double figures points return. I did like Brian Deane's comment yesterday that we need to win every game to give us a chance. If we can't stay up with 46 points we might as well give up
Fox Ulike Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 So if we stay up you'll happily admit he's good enough then? That's a relief. Good enough for what? I don’t really see any point in arguing about futures that haven’t yet happened. This isn’t Terminator V. We’re bottom of the table. Pearson has had a piss-poor season so far. That's the opinion I was expressing. I also said that because of his previous experience that "maybe Pearson is exactly the right man for a team in our current position." So what exactly is your question?
Babylon Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 Good enough for what? I don’t really see any point in arguing about futures that haven’t yet happened. This isn’t Terminator V. We’re bottom of the table. Pearson has had a piss-poor season so far. That's the opinion I was expressing. I also said that because of his previous experience that "maybe Pearson is exactly the right man for a team in our current position." So what exactly is your question? I've seen Dyche touted as "manager of the season" by a few pundits. Yet we're one point behind with a game in hand. Yes we finished what was it 9 points clear of them in the champ, but what doesn't 9 point difference equate to in this league 1 point? If we were to finish one or two points ahead of them, would his season have been that much different to Dyche's?
Haydos Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 Good enough for what? I don’t really see any point in arguing about futures that haven’t yet happened. This isn’t Terminator V. We’re bottom of the table. Pearson has had a piss-poor season so far. That's the opinion I was expressing. I also said that because of his previous experience that "maybe Pearson is exactly the right man for a team in our current position." So what exactly is your question? Are you deliberately being obtuse? You're saying he's not good enough because we're at the bottom of the table. The season isn't over yet and we have a played most of our tough fixtures (which other teams still have to play) already. I don't really see any point in drawing conclusions before you have a result.
HoustonFox Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 What I'd like to know is how many more points do people expect this team to have? Really. I don't have time to go through every fixture so far but I'll generalize. If we are supposedly better than the two teams we came up with, we should have more points than them? Fair? Ok, say we hadn't let in that last minute equalizer against Burnley, we would have. Other than that, do we have a divine right to be better than all the other established teams? No. Please can people who think Pearson and this team point to results we haven't gotten against "WORSE" teams than us? Am I happy that we are bottom? No. Do I think we can get out of it? I'm hopeful Some people think we have a divine right to stay up because of our name, not where we came from. I for one am bored of this in or out debate. He's here, let's back him and unify for the final games of the season. I'm sure we will go down swinging but hopefully we'll have a Rockyesque finale and win the "title" (that means staying up for people who read things literally). Remember Nige, Toppy loves ya
Dan Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 How can it possibly be all Pearsons fault should we go down but have nothing to do with him if we survive? The ones with the agenda show their true colours time and time again. Total opposite for me. He takes a LOT of credit if we stay up from here regardless of how much of it was down to him (and it undoubtedly was). The last two games he's displayed a lot of what's been missing and would you believe it, we were rewarded both times.
Dan Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 What I'd like to know is how many more points do people expect this team to have? Really. I don't have time to go through every fixture so far but I'll generalize. If we are supposedly better than the two teams we came up with, we should have more points than them? Fair? Ok, say we hadn't let in that last minute equalizer against Burnley, we would have. Other than that, do we have a divine right to be better than all the other established teams? No. Please can people who think Pearson and this team point to results we haven't gotten against "WORSE" teams than us? Am I happy that we are bottom? No. Do I think we can get out of it? I'm hopeful Some people think we have a divine right to stay up because of our name, not where we came from. I for one am bored of this in or out debate. He's here, let's back him and unify for the final games of the season. I'm sure we will go down swinging but hopefully we'll have a Rockyesque finale and win the "title" (that means staying up for people who read things literally). Remember Nige, Toppy loves ya I personally think if we'd stuck with the game we're most effective at throughout this season we could be above the likes of Newcastle. I said it in pre-season and I stand by it. It really isn't that strong a division and no amount of $ky propaganda can convince me that teams like West Brom, Villa etc... aren't dross. I'm not claiming we haven't been ourselves but I put that more down to our own stupid tinkering rather than the strength of others.
The Railway Man Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 2 points here. First, certainly Pearson has not been the "best man for the job" this season, just look at here we are. And if we should escape it certainly won't be down to him. Secondly to put him in the same League as Cloughie just shows how ignorant some folk are. The same people who say if we go down the buck stops with the manager now saying if we stay up it's nothing to do with him.
Corky Posted 15 April 2015 Posted 15 April 2015 I personally think if we'd stuck with the game we're most effective at throughout this season we could be above the likes of Newcastle. I said it in pre-season and I stand by it. It really isn't that strong a division and no amount of $ky propaganda can convince me that teams like West Brom, Villa etc... aren't dross. I'm not claiming we haven't been ourselves but I put that more down to our own stupid tinkering rather than the strength of others. Many of our problems have been self inflicted through the manager and the players- very rarely have we been outclassed or battered, and sometimes decisions have been crucial from the officials. Just need to stick to our guns and keep playing the way we've been in the last few games- if we have to outscore sides in 3-2 and 4-3 wins then so be it. Going forward we look much better than when we set up conservatively. Our tempo, combined with the intensity, could give us an edge in matches against sides with not as much to play for.
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