Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo Posted 21 December 2015 Posted 21 December 2015 So if there was a sportsman with the name Jock McTavish you'd pronounce his name in a broad Scottish accent? I'd go Bangladeshi accent, mix it up a bit
Itsthejoeker Posted 21 December 2015 Posted 21 December 2015 It's the countless different pronounciations that bother me, if they could work out which one is right and stick to it that'd be great. But every commentator seems to decide how they think it should sound
stripeyfox Posted 21 December 2015 Posted 21 December 2015 David Pleat used to have at least 17 different ways of saying "Joachim" in the same game.
Jordan Posted 21 December 2015 Posted 21 December 2015 In your attempt to 'get it straight' you've wildly missed my point. It pisses me off when, and I quote, 'commentators add [accents] in on a whim'. If you are going to try and pick holes in my post and criticise me the very least you can do is read it properly instead of being a **** and leaping to a snap decision without bothering to pay any attention to what was actually said. ****ing arse hole. The two examples you cited are examples of commentators at least doing a half-decent job pronouncing the players' names correctly, for the most part.Do help me understand if your point is really a completely subjective insistence that most commentators are not simply trying to do what's part of their job, but rather, are being pretentious twats. The league and clubs often provide pronunciation guides to broadcasters, and the BBC have a unit in their Information & Archives Department whose role is to research correct pronunciation of non-English names (or at least provide an approximate pronunciation using British English phonemes). Commentators aren't just producing moments of flair out of thin air to try and sound cultured. I'm certainly not being lazy, but are you sure you're not angry? Because you seem rather angry...
iamafox Posted 21 December 2015 Posted 21 December 2015 Not one person I've heard has complained about Thierry Henry's last name being pronounced 'Onree'.
shen Posted 21 December 2015 Posted 21 December 2015 ... Get fed up with commentators' tendency to add stupid accents and pronunciations to foreign players names? I realise that some are pronounced in a way which isn't exactly obvious but it really gets my goat when commentators add them in on a whim. Good examples include Emre 'Chan' Can and 'aydin azzah' Eden Hazard. I know it might seem negligible but it really ****s me off. Yeah, bloody foreign-sounding tossers coming over here, taking our land and jobs and.. oh wait.. Excusez-moi I must have landed in the wrong fred.
fuchsntf Posted 21 December 2015 Posted 21 December 2015 In someways the guy has a point. The sports commentators job is to present himself well, and their proffession. They travel the world for their sport, talking for hours over the sport, and names in the sport . Panelists, pundits exactly the same. Making the odd mistake or slip up is human, its when they continuously get various TOP regularly mentioned sports people names totally wrong. Pronunciation, accents is not the problem so much, that comes with commentators mother tongue, and stress on individual letters, and sounding of diphthongs and monopthongs. One would think, if you are regular on radio, or tv media with a mic around you , you would take pride in your work and not be lazy and unproffessional. All foreigners to all languages tend to get the exact pronunciation right, its the attempt to be near to it thats appreciated. Getting letter placings totally and continously wrong is the the incompetence. My wife who is german gets 'TH' spot on .She was a dolmetcher so that made it easy, though when she was studying English, I did keep asking her what she had said, when she put 'z' in the, this, that..etc until she got it spot on. Thankfully she hasnt picked up the Leicester accent or New Parks ditties or slang. Foreigners more than the English, are usually quicker at learning and using grammer correctly. But make mistakes believing that they dont make pronunciation errors, because we english dont really care, so long as they understand the sin of the conversation, though we will correct sometimes. There are the countries folk, like Spanish, Italians, southern french, who will laugh WITH YOU, on your mistakes, there are some areas, in Germany, and central France who laugh against and begrudgingly help. That said some English can sometimes be arrogant and not be bothered to give the same understanding, to what they expect when they themselves leave their own county let alone their own country. I have had German/French/dutch colleagues, who have spoken excellent English, who couldnt understand other accents from other English speaking countries, asking me to translate.
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