"No further action" on claims Moss was verbally abused0 by lcfc officials

[Ian S]

Why people are going on about the pens is beyond me.

The game should never have been allowed to get in the state it was.

It was obvious at ht someone was going to get sent off.

That ref is either the poorest ref going or he wanted to de rail our season.

Players were getting away with murder that then in sighted other players to carry out retribution.

It was piss poor from start to finish and no not sour grapes everyone in the pub said the same.

Spot on,I said at half time that someone was going to be sent off.You could see the frustration from both teams with the ref not just ourselves,then enter Mr Carroll who never stopped getting in the refs ear and things degenerated further.

What's done is done though and we are still in a great position,although reading many posts you would not think so.

[Fox92]

Tbh I'm starting to think this whole Moss hatred is going a bit too far now.

90% of people are in agreement that Vardy dived. Vardy got away with a bookable offence prior to the challenge he got booked for (was warned). West ham got dodgy penalty but then so did we (evened up)

 

Vardy's first booking wasn't even a foul, let alone a booking. 

[ARM1968]

Indeed this is true and a very valid point. The first yellow was not even a foul following the letter of the law. The West Ham player ran on to Vardy's leg and basically tripped himself over.

The argument from some seems to be that his previous tackle was worthy of a yellow. That is however irrelevant and has no bearing on awarding a yellow for an innocuous challenge a few moments later. What it does do is suggest that the Ref thought he was wrong not to award the yellow for Jamie's previous tackle.

Take that and the rest of Moss's on field performance, add that to the FA taking no further action for the reported off field events and you have a Ref who is incompetent, inconsistent and actually not trusted by his bosses. All very interesting

[Weller in Tights]

Give me £80k a year & you can call me a cheating cvnt as often as you like.

If someone had slapped him then fair enough, but a bit of name calling is to be expected surely? Man up you big girl's blouse.

This, most definitely this.

I got called a cheating cvnt when running the line for an under 14 Sunday game, by the opposing manager.

I didn't get paid a penny and I didn't have a big strop. And the laugh of it all is that I really don't cheat, I'm very honorouble and will not be biased towards my own team when officiating.

[notnow john]

Wether you like it or not the players have a responsibility to the game,kids copy what they see and even when

the ref is wrong,useless or a cheat players should be seen to respect his decision.

It amuses me that they scream abuse into the refs face but put their hands over their mouths when talking to

each other or even opponents.

This is not a dig at Vardy,in last nights game Colback shouted" fvck off"into the refs face and he was ignored..

What we need is respect from players and consistency from officials.

[Fox 4 Life]

I hate this thread title, every time I come on to the forum for a split second I think it's to do with Vardy!

[leicsmac]

This, most definitely this.

I got called a cheating cvnt when running the line for an under 14 Sunday game, by the opposing manager.

I didn't get paid a penny and I didn't have a big strop. And the laugh of it all is that I really don't cheat, I'm very honorouble and will not be biased towards my own team when officiating.

 

Just because you have thick enough skin to deal with the verbals being thrown around doesn't mean that people should do it or that it should be encouraged.

 

And in any case I thought we were past the whole "sticks and stones break your bones but names never hurt me" fallacy?

 

Berating the ref isn't going to make the decision change (99.99% of the time anyway) so why do it, other than to make yourself feel better when shit hasn't gone your way, possibly at the expense of your team? Seems pointless as well as counterproductive to me.

 

Wether you like it or not the players have a responsibility to the game,kids copy what they see and even when

the ref is wrong,useless or a cheat players should be seen to respect his decision.

It amuses me that they scream abuse into the refs face but put their hands over their mouths when talking to

each other or even opponents.

This is not a dig at Vardy,in last nights game Colback shouted" fvck off"into the refs face and he was ignored..

What we need is respect from players and consistency from officials.

 

This.

 

As I have said before, mic refs up, that way they have to justify their decisions to the public as they're speaking with players (which helps consistency and accountability) and any player who swears at the ref within mic shot walks and/or gets a 3 match ban when mic footage is checked after the match. You'd probably get a lot of suspensions to begin with but people would get the idea fast.

[BoyJones]

Indeed this is true and a very valid point. The first yellow was not even a foul following the letter of the law. The West Ham player ran on to Vardy's leg and basically tripped himself over.

The argument from some seems to be that his previous tackle was worthy of a yellow. That is however irrelevant and has no bearing on awarding a yellow for an innocuous challenge a few moments later. What it does do is suggest that the Ref thought he was wrong not to award the yellow for Jamie's previous tackle.

Take that and the rest of Moss's on field performance, add that to the FA taking no further action for the reported off field events and you have a Ref who is incompetent, inconsistent and actually not trusted by his bosses. All very interesting

If Moss though that Vardy's first yellow was warranted, what about Payet's studs up tackle on Vardy. Watch it in slowmo, potential career ending ankle targeting tackle. Could have easily given a red, but clearly verbal insults are more heinous crime's then causing

potential serious injury.

I am usually pretty ambivalent towards the refs, they are a necessary evil, but Moss was exceptionally poor and hopefully will never ref at the King Power again.

[inckley fox]

Indeed this is true and a very valid point. The first yellow was not even a foul following the letter of the law. The West Ham player ran on to Vardy's leg and basically tripped himself over.

The argument from some seems to be that his previous tackle was worthy of a yellow. That is however irrelevant and has no bearing on awarding a yellow for an innocuous challenge a few moments later. What it does do is suggest that the Ref thought he was wrong not to award the yellow for Jamie's previous tackle.

Take that and the rest of Moss's on field performance, add that to the FA taking no further action for the reported off field events and you have a Ref who is incompetent, inconsistent and actually not trusted by his bosses. All very interesting

 

The ref also failed to indicate that it was for an accumulation of offences at the time (though I don't think we can say the first yellow was even an offence). This was a major error, as even Moss's main defenders have acknowledged. It meant that the crowd felt an early, greater sense of injustice and Vardy may have believed he was receiving unfair treatment. The brutal atmosphere that subsequently developed had its roots in that moment.

 

I'm sure the club can point to a few glaring inconsistencies in the referee's performance: there are several key decisions that directly contradict each other (contact+dive=second yellow/no penalty in one instance, but penalty/no second yellow/equalising goal in the other; shirt-pulling=penalty in one case, but not in several others etc.) and, in the light of the FA taking unprecedented measure to ensure refereeing competency for a Spurs' game, the club could suggest that they shouldn't be too heavily punished for some clear refereeing errors in their game.

 

But Vardy, for his part, should apologise, perhaps play the sob story with some of the recent social media targeting of his daughter, say that the initial contact set him off balance but, yes, he made the most of it and hope the FA senses that they're one questionable move away from being seen - across the world - as having tried to impact on the title race in favour of the bigger club. Hopefully there's something we're unaware of which points towards severe misconduct on Moss's part; either indicating that he gave unbalanced decisions because of individual conversations he was having during the game (as Carragher inadvertently suggested), or some other not-entirely-professional behaviour at some stage in proceedings. Maybe not, though.

[inckley fox]

One more important point goes back to Halsey's and Hackett's comments about game management. Some pundits have indicated that Moss couldn't have avoided being criticised because of the nature of the game, which is clearly nonsense.

 

He could have indicated clearly that Vardy's first booking was for an accumulation, or waited to book him for a clearer offence (or even the previous one). He could have given Vardy the second yellow, then done the same for the Reid penalty dive. Or he could have given both as penalties, and the Huth one, and still be seen as being consistent. Or he could have simply ignored all three. He could even have got away with red carding Vardy, then giving both the Reid and Huth incidents as penalties, and he would have just about got away with it. If you look at the different permutations, Moss was the difference between 1-0, 4-2 and the eventual 2-2. That can't be allowed to happen. 

 

There are many different roads that a competent referee could have gone down. But as it stands, his performance will be used in training courses for officials across the world as a case study of how things can go wrong.