Is Facism and Pro-Brexit/Euro-scepticism one and the same thing

[Guest]

Hating all this now. The divide in the country at the moment is shocking. I don't know what the answer is. We need answers and quick

 

You must be a wum account.

 

If not can I suggest that the answer is for you and JTF to lock yourselves in a small room together until it's sorted.

[Guest]

Having a  "Federal Europe" would be much closer to "Facism".

 

Scaremongering.

 

We were never going to have a federal europe. 

[bovril]

I'm actually starting to think FIF, JTF, apple, Dodgy Bob, Moose, Frank to be, foxxed and Rincewind are all the same person.

 

Fingers of fury!

[Realist Guy In The Room]

Unfortunately the word 'immigrant' just has the sound of a nasty undertone regardless of the context you use it in.

Its amazing the amount of brexiters trying to have rational, normal conversation about immigration, are met with such overreactions from their allegedly more intelligent remain counterparts.

[Webbo]

I'm actually starting to think FIF, JTF, apple, Dodgy Bob, Moose, Frank to be, foxxed and Rincewind are all the same person.

 

Fingers of fury!

He can't be rincewind because that's me.

[Guest]

I'm actually starting to think FIF, JTF, apple, Dodgy Bob, Moose, Frank to be, foxxed and Rincewind are all the same person.

 

Fingers of fury!

 

I am only me. Can't speak for any of the others.

 

If I was any of the others I'd consider comitting suicide.

 

Mods can confirm this 

He can't be rincewind because that's me.

[Strokes]

I'm actually starting to think FIF, JTF, apple, Dodgy Bob, Moose, Frank to be, foxxed and Rincewind are all the same person.

 

Fingers of fury!

Apple seems a bit like that digital Alba fella to me.

[bovril]

Apple seems a bit like that digital Alba fella to me.

 

Oh yeah forgot him.

 

Who are you?

[Jimothy]

Apple seems a bit like that digital Alba fella to me.

I was thinking babylad92.

[GaelicFox]

There have been some pretty wild threads on here over the years, but frankly this one is just ****ing stupid.

I can't believe it hasn't been pulled LOL

Jesus Christ it just goes to show throw a pack of dogs a bone and they will bite and savage each other over it !

[Strokes]

Who are you?

Yeah like you don't know, I'm you.

[Thracian]

I think this is a discussion worth a seperate thread

Mainly because the referendum thread is throwing up a huge amount to quite disturbing and wild points of views and accusations about Leave voters. Today at Mass I heard it suggested that We have now become a county Where "raving fascists are passed off as "euro sceptics" "

That's a discussion tread that seems to be woven into a lot of comments passed by remain voters about leave voters.

There are very few deployed definitions of Facism in existence so I go back to one of the founding fathers of Facism , Benito Mussolini.

mussolini outlined the three principles of a fascist philosophy as :

1."Everything in the state". ( refusing Brussels power could be seen as enthusing "Everythjng in the state"

2."Nothing form outside the state" (anti immigration and a greater sense of superiority, UKIP embody this belief)

3."Nothing against the state". Any type of questioning of the government or the people outside the state will not be tolerated. So EU rules and laws are in effect against the state

It's uncomfortable to comprehend and analyse for many but the debate must be had ! And the question is :

Is Facism and Pro-Brexit/Euro-scepticism one and the same thing ?

 

 

Is this a serious point of view? How does insular suddenly equate with the notion of trading freely with the world and having a sensibly set, points-based, ever adjustable, immigration system that doesn't discriminate against people from any country but does limit numbers to those we can cope with without adversely impacting on those already here?  In other words a system that seems to acknowledge people's clearly expressed concerns.