Roll on January

[cityfanlee23]

2 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

So you're compiling a list of players not good enough and Amartey doesn't make it? . Close thread.

 

Amartey is 21. 

[lgfualol]

42 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

Sell (not good enough) - 

Hernandez

Harsh on Hernandez, he hasn't had a chance other than being played out of position and against Hull in his first proper game for us. 

 

Wont be selling King or Albrighton, they're probably being paid 5 times what they're worth a week. 

[Fox in the North]

4 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

We have zero consistency as it is, actually, we are consistently poor. 

Of the players I have mentioned, none are top half prem standard.

So are we just going to ignore the season before for half of the players you've mentioned as rubbish? Some like King, Huth and Ulloa put in huge shifts last year. Yes they have not performed so far but I don't believe that means they are all of a sudden obselete and woeful. Its not half a team that's pulling it down, it's a collective issue. There has never been a case where a mass sale of players in January has done any team any good whatsoever. Just think when we got relegated to league 1 and how many players we used then.

[cityfanlee23]

3 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

Did you know prior to this season that all this would happen?

 

And do we not need squad players?

I've been saying since before the season started we needed atleast 4 more players. 

I said we needed a RB, 2x CB, CAM minimum, anyone could see we are one dimensional.

I didn't expect we would be this bad. 

 

1 minute ago, bennytwohats said:

 

Get a grip.

 

What we need in January is to make a couple of key signings in CM and defence. Not to sell of a huge chunk of our squad, which is already lightweight.

lol, Key signings being we need a RB to compete with simpson, 2x CB as Huth and Morgan are suspect without Kante and we are woefully weak in that department, and a CM who can actually attack and take the pressure off drinkwater, which none of our CM's can currently do.

 

That's 4 signings already.  We have far too much dead wood, Bar gray we have nobody on the bench who we can rely on to change the game. 

It's the same tactic, same 442, different players doing the same role as we are too one dimensional. 

[Monsell1976]

40 minutes ago, cc_star said:

Jaunary???? That's papering over the cracks

 

Who'll come

 

We're worse than a our dismal promotion season

 

Barring Huth, the players are good enough, the same formation & tactics every single week isn't

This is 100% Ranieri

 

He is now the Ranieri we though we'd signed after his Greek sacking

We're going down because him, the legend!

A while ago I would say that was harsh, but after hearing him say he's happy with today's performance, I can't or won't defend him anymore.

[dmayne7]

2 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

 

Amartey is 21. 

Oh sorry I forgot that means he's good enough. So if we play a bunch of 12 year olds they'll be better by default because of their age?

 

No. Completely irrelevant point. At the moment he is a million miles away from being good enough. King is hardly Pele but he's streets ahead of Amartey. The problem is the manager and the attitude of the players.

[cityfanlee23]

2 minutes ago, HathernFox said:

So are we just going to ignore the season before for half of the players you've mentioned as rubbish? Some like King, Huth and Ulloa put in huge shifts last year. Yes they have not performed so far but I don't believe that means they are all of a sudden obselete and woeful. Its not half a team that's pulling it down, it's a collective issue. There has never been a case where a mass sale of players in January has done any team any good whatsoever. Just think when we got relegated to league 1 and how many players we used then.

When did I ignore them? are you ignoring the fact last year was a woeful premier league? where anyone could take points from the top teams?

They contributed massively. Does not mean they are now good enough to build on. 

[HighPeakFox]

I don't think anyone would disagree we need to sign new players.

[cityfanlee23]

Just now, dmayne7 said:

Oh sorry I forgot that means he's good enough. So if we play a bunch of 12 year olds they'll be better by default because of their age?

 

No. Completely irrelevant point. At the moment he is a million miles away from being good enough. King is hardly Pele but he's streets ahead of Amartey. The problem is the manager and the attitude of the players.

When did i say that was good enough? it means he has masses of potential, he's been thrown in because mendy is injured and is not ready. 

[midland_red]

3 minutes ago, HathernFox said:

So are we just going to ignore the season before for half of the players you've mentioned as rubbish? Some like King, Huth and Ulloa put in huge shifts last year. Yes they have not performed so far but I don't believe that means they are all of a sudden obselete and woeful. Its not half a team that's pulling it down, it's a collective issue. There has never been a case where a mass sale of players in January has done any team any good whatsoever. Just think when we got relegated to league 1 and how many players we used then.

Ulloa has hardly had a chance this season.....

[midland_red]

2 minutes ago, Monsell1976 said:

A while ago I would say that was harsh, but after hearing him say he's happy with today's performance, I can't or won't defend him anymore.

question is - does he really believe it? If so, then that should about be the end. If it is doing it to keep up appearances and does the slagging off in private (the professional way) - then fair enough. But he still has an obligation to come up with a plan, and that means pinpointing what is going wrong

[brucey]

January is also when AFCON happens. Slimani, Mahrez, Amartey, Schlupp gone.

[brucey]

Ranieri acknowledged a relegation battle in his post match comments today. I don't think he's ripped into the players prior to today. 

[Monsell1976]

3 minutes ago, brucey said:

January is also when AFCON happens. Slimani, Mahrez, Amartey, Schlupp gone.

Please don't, I'm depressed enough

[Fox in the North]

11 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

When did I ignore them? are you ignoring the fact last year was a woeful premier league? where anyone could take points from the top teams?

They contributed massively. Does not mean they are now good enough to build on. 

By quite happily putting them up for sale? A woeful premier league is stretching it. Look at the quality of the sides that we finished above. Yes the other teams did not play as well as they should have done, but it certainly wasn't a crap premier league. Agreed that we can't build on some of them and that we need to develop, but selling and changing around that much of your squad halfway through a season would be a massive overreaction.

[Fox in the North]

14 minutes ago, midland_red said:

Ulloa has hardly had a chance this season.....

I know, I feel sorry for him. He performed well when he was called last year and scored vital goals. Not sure what the best thing to do with him to be honest, especially when you consider how many strikers we have.

[LAprice_]

Selling half the squad isn't going to make us better.

 

I don't think it's entirely fair to hand-pick individuals for poor performances because it's been such a collective shambles. However, the two players who have disappointed me the most this season are Vardy and Mahrez. They were talked about last year in the same breath as some of the best players in the world - They are our BIG name players and it's about time they started showing it. I'm not talking about goals and world class performances, all I want to see is a little bit of effort.

 

Then again, I can't say I blame them. From their point of view, what's the point? 

[dmayne7]

17 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

When did i say that was good enough? it means he has masses of potential, he's been thrown in because mendy is injured and is not ready. 

 

You put a list of sell players because they're not good enough (he wasn't on it, so that kind of means you think that is good enough). Then you just told me his age when I questioned why he wasn't on said list as though being younger made him a better player?

 

I always give players a chance and I'd loan him out for now but there has been no display of his potential. He just looks awful. He's weak, uncomfortable on the ball, tactically naïve, lethargic and at times looks bloody lazy.

[ImBlue]

18 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

Oh sorry I forgot that means he's good enough. So if we play a bunch of 12 year olds they'll be better by default because of their age?

 

No. Completely irrelevant point. At the moment he is a million miles away from being good enough. King is hardly Pele but he's streets ahead of Amartey. The problem is the manager and the attitude of the players.

I'm sorry?

 

are they not good enough or is an attitude problem? 

[Guest]

We need one or two quality central midfielders and then we'll be fine. our problems are caused by not being able to control the ball so we're not showing ourselves to be creative and get men forward. 

[cityfanlee23]

28 minutes ago, dmayne7 said:

 

You put a list of sell players because they're not good enough (he wasn't on it, so that kind of means you think that is good enough). Then you just told me his age when I questioned why he wasn't on said list as though being younger made him a better player?

 

I always give players a chance and I'd loan him out for now but there has been no display of his potential. He just looks awful. He's weak, uncomfortable on the ball, tactically naïve, lethargic and at times looks bloody lazy.

 

No, you came in and assumed what I thought. 
Kaputska doesnt play, is he not good enough? should we get rid too? No, why? because he is young and has potential, as does Amartey. 

 

[dmayne7]

6 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

 

No, you came in and assumed what I thought. 
Kaputska doesnt play, is he not good enough? should we get rid too? No, why? because he is young and has potential, as does Amartey. 

 

 

Absolutely spot on. I did assume.

 

Kaputska? Sorry, I thought this was a list based on players who have been playing? To sell the ones not good enough (Amartey wasn't on that list so by the power of deduction, you think he is good enough).

[cityfanlee23]

Just now, dmayne7 said:

 

Absolutely spot on. I did assume.

 

Kaputska? Sorry, I thought this was a list based on players who have been playing? To sell the ones not good enough (Amartey wasn't on that list so by the power of deduction, you think he is good enough).

I think he has POTENTIAL to be good enough. 

You assumed I think he is good enough now. 

 

If Kaputska plays bad when he gets a chance should we just sell? Amartey has been thrown into the team when he is not ready, in a 442 aged 21, trying to cover a defence that need babysitting. 

He's 21.

[crazyleicester]

The retardation setting among the faithful is at new levels LOL!

 

Last season we had players playing at their peak, hardly got an injury, hardly played a midweek game and everyone was a year younger. This time around we have had injuries to key players, early season suspensions, our central defenders look like they have aged and hardly anyone is playing at their peak. We also play two games a week and importantly our key players who have never in their careers had two magical seasons on the bounce arent performing that well, notably Mahrez and Vardy. Part of that isnt that they have become shit overnight, but that sides are defending against them far better. Unfortunately, when we pass the ball on to players other than Mahrez or Vardy then we find our shortcomings, they arent good enough to use the ball. 

 

Moving forward, we have Gray, we have Musa, we have Slimani. If we can wheedle out a system that allows us to have more creative players on the field then that would be great. Unfortunately, because our defence (especially central defenders) seem to have lost a yard of place and seemed to have aged a few years overnight we cant trust to leave them more exposed or else we get a bit more of what we got today. Now this isnt CR fault. Who would have thought that only DS would rekindle last seasons form? Unfortunately, as much as all of our players played to their 100% potential last season most are running at 70% at the moment,

 

There is plenty of time for us to turn it around and with key players returning from injury and suspension soon who knows, we may start climbing up that table to put the full blown retards into a new state.

[dmayne7]

23 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

I think he has POTENTIAL to be good enough. 

You assumed I think he is good enough now. 

 

If Kaputska plays bad when he gets a chance should we just sell? Amartey has been thrown into the team when he is not ready, in a 442 aged 21, trying to cover a defence that need babysitting. 

He's 21.

Are you addressing that question at me directly? Because then you are assuming that I have said we should sell Amartey and that might come across as a tad hypocritical...

 

You're getting your panties in a twist because I responded directly to something raised in your thread (a list of players not good enough) and your response to that was to just bring up Amartey's age which in that context had 0 relevance.

 

Would you like a hand or shall I fetch you a step so you can get down from your high horse?