How can the slimani-vardy partnership work

[Guest the fox]

  .Because we can't build up the play from behind (1- we don't have a CB that can pass,2- we don't have a box to box CM to take the ball up). we would play long balls to the midfield.  slimani would  make the other teams CBs come closer to him in the midfield (he is baiting them) and then he picks and chooses his battles, So if he thinks that he could get it down to the ground he would offloads it to the wingers and run to the box. And by that he would get the CB out of position. But if he thinks that he can't get it he would let the CB hit it. But he will force him to get it to our midfielders, and then it all comes to how can our CM get the right play. if the ball get to amartey/king then they will give it to mahrez/Fuchs to get a proper cross, but if it gets to Drinkwater it will be played as a long ball to vardy. Now vardy is drifting a little to the left or the right. Which mean he is only getting guarded by 1 CB. And he will have all the time and space to run. And if the other teams fullback thinks on doubling on vardy they will have to deal with Marc's and Fuchs's cross (if he is the RB), or mahrez ( if it's the LB). The second CB and CM can't double on vardy or help the  fullback because slimani is forcing them to guard him. Which leads to a 3v2 with Fuchs,Marc and Drinkwater vs their fullback and winger. If only we had a RB that can attack, and that will help mahrez get to a 1v1 with the fullback ( mahrez will eat him alive if he is alone), and that would at least lead to a proper chance if not a goal.  I think this is what Claudio was trying to do, and it showed some promise in the CL. the thing is,  While it is looking good on paper, it is yet to be 100℅ translated to the pitch

[Slim Dog]

Just kick it at Slimani's head and it goes in.

[AmarteyAndChill]

6 minutes ago, the fox said:

  .Because we can't build up the play from behind (1- we don't have a CB that can pass,2- we don't have a box to box CM to take the ball up). we would play long balls to the midfield.  slimani would  make the other teams CBs come closer to him in the midfield (he is baiting them) and then he picks and chooses his battles, So if he thinks that he could get it down to the ground he would offloads it to the wingers and run to the box. And by that he would get the CB out of position. But if he thinks that he can't get it he would let the CB hit it. But he will force him to get it to our midfielders, and then it all comes to how can our CM get the right play. if the ball get to amartey/king then they will give it to mahrez/Fuchs to get a proper cross, but if it gets to Drinkwater it will be played as a long ball to vardy. Now vardy is drifting a little to the left or the right. Which mean he is only getting guarded by 1 CB. And he will have all the time and space to run. And if the other teams fullback thinks on doubling on vardy they will have to deal with Marc's and Fuchs's cross (if he is the RB), or mahrez ( if it's the LB). The second CB and CM can't double on vardy or help the  fullback because slimani is forcing them to guard him. Which leads to a 3v2 with Fuchs,Marc and Drinkwater vs their fullback and winger. If only we had a RB that can attack, and that will help mahrez get to a 1v1 with the fullback ( mahrez will eat him alive if he is alone), and that would at least lead to a proper chance if not a goal.  I think this is what Claudio was trying to do, and it showed some promise in the CL. the thing is,  While it is looking good on paper, it is yet to be 100℅ translated to the pitch

Vardy would have to play behind slimani, because otherwise we'd just be limping balls up to no one.

[Guest the fox]

1 minute ago, AmarteyAndChill said:

Vardy would have to play behind slimani, because otherwise we'd just be limping balls up to no one.

I would rather oka playing behind slimani, he can link the play, but vardy is not the type of player that can play the second striker. And that's why I said the slimani-vardy partnership could work. Because we can work our why around the issue of playing with 2 strikers that are  leading the line by nature

[Slim Dog]

We can't play 4-4-2 with Slim, Vards and Okazaki. What are you thinking, 3-5-2? It could work with Albrighton and Fuchs as the wingbacks but then where do the wingers fit in?

I'd rather we played 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. Vardy and Slimani worked fairly well against Burnley, don't know where it went wrong.

[Guest the fox]

14 minutes ago, Slim Dog said:

We can't play 4-4-2 with Slim, Vards and Okazaki. What are you thinking, 3-5-2? It could work with Albrighton and Fuchs as the wingbacks but then where do the wingers fit in?

I'd rather we played 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. Vardy and Slimani worked fairly well against Burnley, don't know where it went wrong.

Who said any thing about playing okazaki. All I said is. If we are gonna play slim as the main striker, I would rather okazaki behind him not vardy

[Slim Dog]

I wasn't being aggressive with the "What are you thinking" btw, it was a genuine question whether you would like 3-5-2. Sorry if it seemed that way. What I'm saying is, Okazaki is first on the team sheet, so to play both Slimani and Vardy at the same time with Okazaki you would need a different formation.

[Guest]

By dropping Vardy

[st albans fox]

Won't work in the prem unless 3-5-2

 

and even then, both of them want to push onto the defence so both will likely make the same runs 

 

would like to see it tried though and maybe allows Riyad to float behind them though again playing an attacking midfielder leaves a central two which is our big problem. 

 

with slim being more mobile than Leo was, might work with vards and slim

 

i think Jeff may be a better bet on the left than fuchs

 

Note that we tried the three with Fuchs at Copenhagen and it wasn't good but was 3-4-3 so imo, it didn't help the two in the middle issue. It may convince Claudio not to try it again though 

 

 

[Slim Dog]

9 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Won't work in the prem unless 3-5-2

 

and even then, both of them want to push onto the defence so both will likely make the same runs 

 

would like to see it tried though and maybe allows Riyad to float behind them though again playing an attacking midfielder leaves a central two which is our big problem. 

 

with slim being more mobile than Leo was, might work with vards and slim

 

i think Jeff may be a better bet on the left than fuchs

 

Note that we tried the three with Fuchs at Copenhagen and it wasn't good but was 3-4-3 so imo, it didn't help the two in the middle issue. It may convince Claudio not to try it again though 

 

 

In a 3-5-2 Fuchs would be on the left of the bank of 5, not on the left of the 3 like in the 3-4-3. He's our best crosser and if he was given the freedom to get forward more then Slim would get some nice service.

[Guest the fox]

54 minutes ago, Slim Dog said:

I wasn't being aggressive with the "What are you thinking" btw, it was a genuine question whether you would like 3-5-2. Sorry if it seemed that way. What I'm saying is, Okazaki is first on the team sheet, so to play both Slimani and Vardy at the same time with Okazaki you would need a different formation.

. Hahahaha. Did you really think that I was mad. How can I be mad about a guy that has slimani as his avatar. Srsly tho. You will find a lot of "short fuse" mentally here. So if you think that my response to you was "aggressive". I have to tell you something, you are is for a Field trip. So buckle up 

[AmarteyAndChill]

2 hours ago, the fox said:

I would rather oka playing behind slimani, he can link the play, but vardy is not the type of player that can play the second striker. And that's why I said the slimani-vardy partnership could work. Because we can work our why around the issue of playing with 2 strikers that are  leading the line by nature

100% agree

[Slim Dog]

2 minutes ago, the fox said:

. Hahahaha. Did you really think that I was mad. How can I be mad about a guy that has slimani as his avatar. Srsly tho. You will find a lot of "short fuse" mentally here. So if you think that my response to you "aggressive". I have to tell you something, you are is for a Field trip. So buckle up 

Ah ok, no problem. 

[foxy boxing]

Slimani should be the focal point of the attack and either Okazaki or Vardy maybe both sometimes linking up with him. Slimani needs to be given the service, so we need to find the best formation and solutions that will get our forward players the service as well as them being able to contribute more in matches

[HighPeakFox]

I'd like to see 352 again. And for Vardy to get past whatever it is that is affecting him. 

[Will1981]

Schmeichel

 

Hernandez -- Morgan -- Fuchs

 

Albrighton -- Amartey -- Drinky -- Schlupp

 

Mahrez -- Slimani -- Vardy

[Detroit Blues]

Vardy worked well in a 3-5-2 (or 3-4-1-2) with Ulloa during the great escape. Slimani is just a better version of Ulloa IMO. He can help press at the top to create defensive miscues, and he can also win aerial battles to flick the ball into Vardy's path. 

 

 

Schmeichel

 

Hernandez -- Huth -- Morgan

 

Albrighton -- Amartey -- Drinky -- Fuchs
 

Mahrez
 

   Slimani -- Vardy
 

Drinkwater and Amartey carry the brunt of the defensive responsibility, and Mahrez can help us retain possession once we win it. 

Fuchs and Albrighton are also the best crossers of the ball, which will give Slimani the chances he needs to head one into the back of the net.

 

The biggest liability i can see is whether or not Morgan can play at LCB. But he did it before, so I don't see why he can't do it now. 

 

 

[FoxInTheBirstallBox]

It won't work while vardy keeps Bitching about slim behind his back, there is bad blood there behind the scenes.... and yes I am in the know

[AmarteyAndChill]

3 minutes ago, FoxInTheBirstallBox said:

It won't work while vardy keeps Bitching about slim behind his back, there is bad blood there behind the scenes.... and yes I am in the know

Slimani is the only one who seems like he wants it, Vardy dosent look bothered.