MrsJohnMurphy Posted 2 February 2017 Posted 2 February 2017 8 hours ago, Abrasive fox said: Deal or not, none of the backroom staff got them, I don't think the money is important. They just want a new car. Rudkin got one, its parked outside his house in Whetstone
foxfan92 Posted 2 February 2017 Posted 2 February 2017 11 hours ago, Col city fan said: Sam Allardyce saved Sunderland by wheeling and dealing in January. His signings were the right ones and very shrewd. He'll probably do the same thing this time. Didnt we sign Huth under Pearson, in January? ....the signing that effectively saved our season too. Very true. Hope Wague can improve our defence this time (although I'm less convinced than when we signed Huth). I just pray we stay up with the lot we have.
foxfan92 Posted 2 February 2017 Posted 2 February 2017 10 hours ago, norwichfox said: Way off the mark with this.......although I wouldn't blame them if they decided to move their money into something other than football following what we've produced so far. Tey're a bit too honourable, and as such will not sack Ranieri before the seasons done. They're smart businessmen. They'd have researched the club thoroughly before they invested. They should therefore know they need to expect the highs of one season to be quickly followed by the lows of next. We're Leicester City after all!
ZeGuy Posted 2 February 2017 Posted 2 February 2017 18 hours ago, bpfox said: have we all been taken for a ride by the owners, maybe the promise of money for new players was all bullshit and they never had any intention of spending there money. It's not their fault. No quality player would come to this mess. People who thought January would solve even partly our problems were deluded. Be happy we quickly signed Ndidi. 2 weeks more and he'd never had come.
crazyleicester Posted 2 February 2017 Posted 2 February 2017 Yeah I agree with the OP The owners have fooked things up big time and are now saving their cash to go and buy Derby the cheating bastards. Gerrrrrrrrimout.
Milo Posted 2 February 2017 Posted 2 February 2017 9 hours ago, winchesterton said: What is everyone's relentless fascination with the bmws? They're cursed, that's what. Downturn in form coincided with the beemers arrival. Fact
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 2 February 2017 Posted 2 February 2017 10 hours ago, Col city fan said: As I said, tell that to Allardyce. And we signed Huth in January didn't we? And then stayed up. Of course deals can be done in January. Last year, under Ranieri, we signed Gray and Amartey. Not too bad. But, of course, at that time we were at the top of the table. I guess, that helped a lot. Huth was willing to join rock-bottom LCFC, because his situation at Stoke was even worse, than that of Kapustka and Ulloa here. Far worse. LCFC was his only option at that time, if he wanted to continue his career in the PL. Therefore, I think , is he a bad example. None of our targets in this window was in such a desperate situation. They all had the option to stay put.
Guest Col city fan Posted 2 February 2017 Posted 2 February 2017 29 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: Last year, under Ranieri, we signed Gray and Amartey. Not too bad. But, of course, at that time we were at the top of the table. I guess, that helped a lot. Huth was willing to join rock-bottom LCFC, because his situation at Stoke was even worse, than that of Kapustka and Ulloa here. Far worse. LCFC was his only option at that time, if he wanted to continue his career in the PL. Therefore, I think , is he a bad example. None of our targets in this window was in such a desperate situation. They all had the option to stay put. Who were the Targets in this window just gone?
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 2 February 2017 Posted 2 February 2017 20 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Who were the Targets in this window just gone? As far as I know: Acerbi, Ramirez, Hoedt , Kara.
Guest Col city fan Posted 2 February 2017 Posted 2 February 2017 2 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: As far as I know: Acerbi, Ramirez, Hoedt , Kara. Why couldn't we get them when other clubs got theirs?
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 2 February 2017 Posted 2 February 2017 Just now, Col city fan said: Why couldn't we get them when other clubs got theirs? That Col is a real good question. According to Karanka, we didn't even make a second, improved offer for Ramirez. We didn't offer more than 12m for Acerbi. I think, we could have hauled them in, if we had been prepared to pay 15-18 m for each of them. It makes me wonder, what plans our owners have for the future of LCFC.
stevebrock Posted 2 February 2017 Posted 2 February 2017 18 minutes ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: That Col is a real good question. According to Karanka, we didn't even make a second, improved offer for Ramirez. We didn't offer more than 12m for Acerbi. I think, we could have hauled them in, if we had been prepared to pay 15-18 m for each of them. It makes me wonder, what plans our owners have for the future of LCFC. They are reigning it in....... either they are happy to accept rejegation or........ don't trust Ranieri or Rudkin going forward
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 41 minutes ago, stevebrock said: They are reigning it in....... either they are happy to accept rejegation or........ don't trust Ranieri or Rudkin going forward Doesn't make much sense. They could fire both tomorrow, if they don't trust them to get us going again.
Guest Col city fan Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 3 hours ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: That Col is a real good question. According to Karanka, we didn't even make a second, improved offer for Ramirez. We didn't offer more than 12m for Acerbi. I think, we could have hauled them in, if we had been prepared to pay 15-18 m for each of them. It makes me wonder, what plans our owners have for the future of LCFC. So by definition, new signings CAN be made in January. And some important ones. We've simply not made many. End of debate really?
TheLittleBigMan Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 We should have got Fatima Whitbread. I keep saying this.
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 20 hours ago, Moksky said: Ok thats made it clearer. One fact is that any bonuses have to be declared to UEFA before the season starts. This is fact. Obviously when we won the league nothing like a bonus structure were in any players contract for winning the Prem .The BMWs were not paid for as total £110k gitf from the the owners, yes they were gifts but also some of it is BMW backed. Contracts can be negotiated during the course of the season as was Vardys in Jan when he was put up to £70k. I can assure you players were not allowed to be given monetary bonuses just willy nilly. Then this season was different. The Cars came in, and for certain players new contracts. Do you know for a fact the backroom staff got nothing? Why shouldnt Claudio take credit, he is also taking the flack right now. The buck stops with him. If he goes doesnt necessarily mean the the backroom staff all get the sack also. I do know for a fact yeah.
USFox Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 On 2/1/2017 at 21:42, bpfox said: have we all been taken for a ride by the owners, maybe the promise of money for new players was all bullshit and they never had any intention of spending there money. I don't think so. Slimani, Musa, N'didi, Mendy are all players that we brought in and the cost was not cheap. I actually think Ranieri misused his funds. Instead of working on fixing the backline and strengthening the wings he went out and bought new midfielders and new strikers. At the end of the day the team suffers from a lack of cohesion. I would actually still wager we made one of the best signings of the summer with Slimani, he's our top scorer and hasn't played for about a month now maybe more for us. At the end of the day this falls on the coach not the owners.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 3 hours ago, USFox said: I don't think so. Slimani, Musa, N'didi, Mendy are all players that we brought in and the cost was not cheap. I actually think Ranieri misused his funds. Instead of working on fixing the backline and strengthening the wings he went out and bought new midfielders and new strikers. At the end of the day the team suffers from a lack of cohesion. I would actually still wager we made one of the best signings of the summer with Slimani, he's our top scorer and hasn't played for about a month now maybe more for us. At the end of the day this falls on the coach not the owners. 1. Ranieri neither buys, nor signs anyone. That is Rudkin's job. He negotiates with other clubs, players and agents. 2. In what way is Ranieri responsible for Slimani's injury or AFCON? 3. First you are lamenting, that we bought new strikers and 2 sentences later, you write " I would actually still wager we made one of the best signings of the summer with Slimani...". Buying new strikers was bad, but buying Slimani was a great idea. What kind of logic is that?
Chico1958 Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 Perhaps the lack of transfers in Jan was a vote of no confidence by the owners Just a thought, by the way I will shed a tear if Claudio is sacked or walks I would not for some others wearing the shirt at the moment though
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 3 February 2017 Posted 3 February 2017 7 minutes ago, Chico1958 said: Perhaps the lack of transfers in Jan was a vote of no confidence by the owners That would only make sense, if they are planning to relocate their business interests. It's a possibility. China is the future. Otherwise it would be like shooting themselves in the foot.
USFox Posted 5 February 2017 Posted 5 February 2017 On 2/3/2017 at 14:48, Struwwelpeter60 said: 1. Ranieri neither buys, nor signs anyone. That is Rudkin's job. He negotiates with other clubs, players and agents. 2. In what way is Ranieri responsible for Slimani's injury or AFCON? 3. First you are lamenting, that we bought new strikers and 2 sentences later, you write " I would actually still wager we made one of the best signings of the summer with Slimani...". Buying new strikers was bad, but buying Slimani was a great idea. What kind of logic is that? 1. Ranieri very much signs players through Rudkins. Assuming both don't coordinate on signings is straight up idiotic. 2. When did I claim it was Ranieri's fault for Slimani's injury? 3. I don't understand why you believe those two things are mutually exclusive? Signing too many strikers and happening to have had a good signing among them is perfectly logical. That doesn't change any facts on the ground that we should have focused on signing players of other positions. If you're just going to argue for the sake of arguing and make yourself look stupid, might as well keep it to yourself if I may be frank.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 5 February 2017 Posted 5 February 2017 22 minutes ago, USFox said: 1. Ranieri very much signs players through Rudkins. Assuming both don't coordinate on signings is straight up idiotic. 2. When did I claim it was Ranieri's fault for Slimani's injury? 3. I don't understand why you believe those two things are mutually exclusive? Signing too many strikers and happening to have had a good signing among them is perfectly logical. That doesn't change any facts on the ground that we should have focused on signing players of other positions. If you're just going to argue for the sake of arguing and make yourself look stupid, might as well keep it to yourself if I may be frank. Why are you insulting me ( "straight up idiotic", "stupid") ? Is that your usual reaction, if someone doesn't share your opinions?
USFox Posted 5 February 2017 Posted 5 February 2017 2 hours ago, Struwwelpeter60 said: Why are you insulting me ( "straight up idiotic", "stupid") ? Is that your usual reaction, if someone doesn't share your opinions? No that's my reaction when someone tries to call me out in a rude way without reason. Just replying in kind.
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 On 5.2.2017 at 22:24, USFox said: No that's my reaction when someone tries to call me out in a rude way without reason. Just replying in kind. Calling you out? In a rude way? 1. Ranieri neither buys, nor signs anyone. That is Rudkin's job. He negotiates with other clubs, players and agents. 2. In what way is Ranieri responsible for Slimani's injury or AFCON? 3. First you are lamenting, that we bought new strikers and 2 sentences later, you write " I would actually still wager we made one of the best signings of the summer with Slimani...". Buying new strikers was bad, but buying Slimani was a great idea. What kind of logic is that? That was my post, you are referring to. What in this post is "in a rude way" ??? Could it be, that you have a fundamental problem with dissent?
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