sphericalfox Posted 13 March 2017 Posted 13 March 2017 The reason it's taken so long to sort out his contract is obvious that there's the payoff clause which was the hold up in agreement. if the intention is to bring in a new manager, certainly a higher profile manager, given recent outcomes and the underlining factors that created it, it's plainly clear that a new manager wouldn't keep on the backroom staff and Shakey and Co. would be highly likely to move on. Hopefully the players won't instantly regress should/when this happens. Summer drama to come methinks.
foxy boxing Posted 13 March 2017 Posted 13 March 2017 Keeping us in the Premier league and better performances from the players both home and away and some tactical knowledge that wins games for us like knowing when to bring on substitutes that can turn the game for us and getting the best out of players no matter what formation we play
Guest Bob Hazels shorts Posted 13 March 2017 Posted 13 March 2017 1 hour ago, Thracian said: McLaren is an example of an vastly experienced club and international manager. He's just been sacked yet again and it mirrors the fate of countless "experienced" managers or "names" who probably get more "chances" than they really deserve. I don't pretend to have a crystal ball but managing successfully certainly isn't all about attracting "top names" even if you were right in assuming Shaky couldn't do that, which I doubt. When I started in football coaching/management I didn't recruit a single player yet we won every game but one over two years and broke all sorts of records. What matters for Shaky - and any coach worth the badge - is getting the best out of people, whether he recruits the players or not. Saving us from relegation should give him a good argument for the job and steering us through to the quarter-finals of the Champions League as well, should nail it on, providing he maintains the dressing room comeraderie that seems to have so dramatically improved since he took the reins from Ranieri. Instead of thinking about so called "names" our owners should be giving Shaky their full backing and contemplating the various ways they can properly assist him in being the sort of long-term success we're crying out for. . Not really done that well or taken seriously since leaving his Man Utd coach position
Guest Bob Hazels shorts Posted 13 March 2017 Posted 13 March 2017 Regardless of how he does I think the club will appoint a well known name in some capacity. There's a lot more work to do and redo than just prepare the first team for games. Yes keep Shakey on as head coach but we are on the world stage now The team will need totally rebuilding from the miracle side over the next 3 years and this wont necessarily be with seasoned British based players as our failing (either they are not right or we don't know how to get the best out of them) waiting list in reserve has proved. Really big ask for someone with not that great real sustained experience to break into management and effectively loosing our best full time coach in himself. I may be proved wrong but coaching and managing are worlds apart, ask the brolly man. I'd be a lot happier if he had quality senior support so the buck doesn't stop with just him. He can bounce things off a wise experienced head, at the moment he only has a guy who's sycophant knowledge is greater than his football
fuchsntf Posted 13 March 2017 Posted 13 March 2017 3 hours ago, Thracian said: McLaren is an example of an vastly experienced club and international manager. He's just been sacked yet again and it mirrors the fate of countless "experienced" managers or "names" who probably get more "chances" than they really deserve. I don't pretend to have a crystal ball but managing successfully certainly isn't all about attracting "top names" even if you were right in assuming Shaky couldn't do that, which I doubt. When I started in football coaching/management I didn't recruit a single player yet we won every game but one over two years and broke all sorts of records. What matters for Shaky - and any coach worth the badge - is getting the best out of people, whether he recruits the players or not. Saving us from relegation should give him a good argument for the job and steering us through to the quarter-finals of the Champions League as well, should nail it on, providing he maintains the dressing room comeraderie that seems to have so dramatically improved since he took the reins from Ranieri. Instead of thinking about so called "names" our owners should be giving Shaky their full backing and contemplating the various ways they can properly assist him in being the sort of long-term success we're crying out for. . Good post.. Mourinho started out as a coach, as did many a good manager.... Top or trusred names, dont bring any guarrantees, or promises of consistent performances. IF we even go out of the CL against Sevilla, I see no reason to put Shakespeares potential in doubt. I certainly wont prejudge, or over analyse his run in games, until EOS. There is only one certainty on the cards at present for me..he has Carte Blanche..and time to show His and the Squads Potential Even if we went down, it Might depend on the HOW !!..
Thracian Posted 13 March 2017 Posted 13 March 2017 2 hours ago, Bob Hazels shorts said: Not really done that well or taken seriously since leaving his Man Utd coach position Exactly.
Thracian Posted 13 March 2017 Posted 13 March 2017 2 hours ago, Bob Hazels shorts said: Not really done that well or taken seriously since leaving his Man Utd coach position Few people should have had a wiser head than Ranieri but he made a right mess of this season. Having a manager who chooses his own assistance is one thing but having a "name" or potential replacement on board to offer "advice" is a formula for aggravation, mistrust and undecisiveness. Every manager needs allies around him, not potential irritations. I'd never say "never", particular if the "wise head" was in place beforehand and actually prompted the recruitment of his chosen manager. But otherwise - and especially if appointed without the manager's approval - it would seem like problems added rather than potential problems solved.
brucey Posted 13 March 2017 Posted 13 March 2017 The players (represented by Drinky) have now said publicly, in the CL press conference no less, that they want Shakey to get the job long-term after summer. That will be a major influence on the owners decision, as long as we don't go on a run of terrible results now (we won't).
progmusfreak Posted 13 March 2017 Posted 13 March 2017 If he gets good results, players support him and he wants to be a manager, I am sure the owners will give him a permanent contract. Changing the manager will involve half of the squad leaving and being replaced by expensive stars just to stay up. Despite winning the league, Leicester is not a big club compared to the others and has no knowledge of club management on top level. I am absolutely sure the managers will fail if they take this turn, and they know this. Also, this will ruin the current status of the club as fearless foxes (for what we pride ourselves) and create further unrest among supporters and maybe clashes inside the squad. The only way up is to carefully manage a step-by-step progress, relying on fusion of talented both young locals and non-star buys.
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