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What's the minimum that Shakespeare has to achieve to get the job full time

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Still don't think he'd get the job permanently should he keep us up.

 

Just a temporary solution in my opinion. 

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If he keeps us up playing as well as we have been, why shouldn't he get the job permanently? Why take the unnecessary risk of getting a new manager? If it's not broken don't try to fix it. 

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50 minutes ago, Winsum said:

Shakespeare is not the man for the job long term. We need a manager with greater managerial 

experience and standing in the game if we are to attract top players. 

 

 

Clubs like Leicester don't need 'top players', if we try to compete like that we are doomed to going back to our yoyo club status. Last year happened because we had a TEAM and everything right in the backroom.

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1 hour ago, Izzy Muzzett said:

Even if......we easily stay up and get to the CL 1/4 finals, I'll be surprised if Shakey will get the gig full time.

 

It sounds daft, but I think the only way he'll get the job on a permanent basis is if we either get to the CL final or remain unbeaten this season in the league.

 

I expect that an experienced Manager is being lined up to be announced in the summer.

 

The new man will probably bring his own people in so providing Shakey does O.K. for the rest of the season, he'll most likely then leave and get a Managers job of a Championship side.

 

That's how I see it panning out...

 

Have to say I agree with this.

 

I think Shakey will see us right until the end of the season but unless we do really well in the CL and in the league I just don't see him being appointed.

 

I hope I'm proved wrong, but I likewise actually think this is the beginning of the end of Shakey's time here. I see a respectable but not flashy end to the season which will inevitably end in someone else getting the job. At that point he's going to leave for pastures new no doubt about it.

 

I'd love it if we really kicked on, gave Shakespeare the job and pushed on as a club but I don't see it.

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10 minutes ago, filthyfox said:

Finish 14th and he's nailed on....

Shakes beware, Jesus was nailed on and got crucified.

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1 minute ago, mozartfox said:

Shakes beware, Jesus was nailed on and got crucified.

If crucifixion was still around do you think they'd use 'no more nails ' instead? 

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1 minute ago, weller54 said:

If crucifixion was still around do you think they'd use 'no more nails ' instead? 

That stuff really doesn't work!

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1 hour ago, mozartfox said:

 our transfer targets will be 'B' and 'C' listers.

You mean the dross we got this year (N'didi excepted) was the A list?

 

RUDKIN OUT!

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Everyone had to start somewhere. 

 

I think staying up in the PL (11-13th), good showing on Tuesday, strong spirit in the team and the faith of the staff and fanbase at the end of the season may be enough. 

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I suspect the owners' decisions will be heavily influenced by the players' opinions at the end of the season, especially if some of the current key players give the impression that they would be more inclined to push for a move if Shakey didn't get the job.

(This is not necessarily a bad thing)

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I suspect he'll need to do something spectacular to get the job full time at season's end like get to the Champions League semis.

 

I'm pleased he has the job until the end of the season and intrigued to see how he gets on now but I don't think this will work long term and we'll have another Di Matteo situation on our hands. Forced into giving him the permanent job out of sentiment when you know it's a poor decision then having to pick up the pieces mid way through next season and get another new man in. 

 

I hope behind closed doors Shakey has been told he'll be back to assistant in the summer and a proper rebuild with a fresh start and someone like Wagner bought in.

 

Shakey is going to be too attached to the players to be objective in the manager's hot seat and I fear the players will down tools again once the novelty wears off.

 

 

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If he can keep the team playing for him and show tactical awareness when playing different teams, then i think he deserves to get it and will do if the fans also get behind him. 

 

In terms of results, would say comfortably survive and a good showing in the CL starting on Tuesday should do it. 

 

Think the defense could still let him down though. 

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I'm honestly not sure at this juncture that there is even a possibility of him being awarded the position on a full time basis. 

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9th. Quarter finals of CL.

 

It's possible Ranieri tried to tinker but rubbed the players up the wrong way. In that case a new manager could learn from Ranieri's mistakes and make real change. But it's possible the team will reject any deviation from last year's tactics. In that case Shakespeare is not only your man but your only man.

 

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Just let's concentrate the job in hand, first the Sevilla game and then the remaining league games. Then reassess in May.

 

One thing is certain, if we get relegated Shakey wll go.

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Clearly this crop of players think a lot of Shakespeare, of that there is no doubt. However, our recent run has been achieved by players of or approaching their 30s, which cannot be maintained. New younger blood needs integrating but will those 30+ players still sing to the Shakespeare tune when they're getting their noses pushed out?

 

I  haven't a clue who would be available in the summer manager wise, or whether they'd be deemed suitable but, this is now a multi million pound operation and if I was the owner, I don't know whether I'd be prepared to risk it in the hands of someone that in managerial terms has no experience, no matter how much of a popular bloke he is. Also, if you were a new manager, would you want to keep him as a link between you and the player's or, having seen what happened to Claudio from afar, would you see Shakespeare as a potential problem should the players not like you or your methods, and therefore bring your own team in?

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15 hours ago, Winsum said:

Shakespeare is not the man for the job long term. We need a manager with greater managerial 

experience and standing in the game if we are to attract top players. 

 

 

McLaren is an example of a vastly experienced club and international manager. He's just been sacked yet again and it mirrors the fate of countless "experienced" managers or "names" who probably get more "chances" than they really deserve.

 

I don't pretend to have a crystal ball but managing successfully certainly isn't all about attracting "top names" even if you were right in assuming Shaky couldn't do that, which I doubt.

 

When I started in football coaching/management I didn't recruit a single player yet we won every game but one over two years and broke all sorts of records. What matters for Shaky - and any coach worth the badge - is getting the best out of people, whether he recruits the players or not.

 

Saving us from relegation should give him a good argument for the job and steering us through to the quarter-finals of the Champions League as well, should nail it on, providing he maintains the dressing room comeraderie that seems to have so dramatically improved since he took the reins from Ranieri.   

 

Instead of thinking about so called "names" our owners should be giving Shaky their full backing and contemplating the various ways they can properly assist him in being the sort of long-term success we're crying out for. .

 

  

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Well if I was making the decision it wouldn't just come down to performances and results and I hope the owners and Rudkin think the same.

 

They should see things us fans aren't privy to. I'd want Shakey not only to improve performances and results (which he has done with flying colours so far) but I'd want to be convinced that he has a plan going forward for the club with the style of play, new signings,etc.

 

Without taking anything away from Shakey it's not that difficult to tell the players we're going to play in the same way we did last season. For him to get the job I want to see more than what cynics could describe as new manager bounce.

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