Raj Posted 28 August 2019 Posted 28 August 2019 I know you can complete one for finance and one for wellbeing. Anyone know much about them and recommend a legal eagle. I know you can do them yourself via the yougov website.
Bryn Posted 28 August 2019 Posted 28 August 2019 They're more complex than you think. You need to speak to a lawyer who specialises in such things.
Alf Bentley Posted 28 August 2019 Posted 28 August 2019 29 minutes ago, Bryn said: They're more complex than you think. You need to speak to a lawyer who specialises in such things. Surprised to hear you say that, Bryn. Have you seen problems arise in a hospital context or something? I had Power of Attorney for my Dad for his last 18 months, when he had advanced Parkinson's & mild dementia. I arranged it myself without using a lawyer and encountered no problems......was I just lucky? Some odd bits that I remember for @Raj: - Yes, you can apply online from the Office of the Public Guardian - I think that it took a couple of months to receive the PoAs from application - Cost was about £100 each, I think - Forms were medium-long but not impossible; needed to be signed by person granting PoA & witnessed by a third party - Finance & Wellbeing PoAs often work quite differently: Finance PoA is effective immediately unless you say otherwise, I think; whereas Wellbeing PoA only becomes effective when doctors say that the person cannot take decisions for himself/herself (e.g. because they're unconscious, have advanced dementia or whatever) - I started using the Finance PoA as soon as it was granted to manage my Dad's money, pay his bills etc. I still told him what I planned to do & tried to ask his opinion/make him aware of options, where possible, though sometimes he just told me to "do what you think is best". - Technically, I never had to produce the Wellbeing PoA as he never completely lost the power to take decisions (though, again, he sometimes just told me to decide what care was best for him) - However, I did find it very useful having the Wellbeing PoA, as it meant doctors & other health professionals were happier to reveal info to me and to discuss my Dad's care....I'd have been more blocked by confidentiality issues without it, I think.
Grebfromgrebland Posted 28 August 2019 Posted 28 August 2019 If in doubt doing it yourself PM me I know a few good people who do them based in Leicester.
Raj Posted 28 August 2019 Author Posted 28 August 2019 57 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said: Surprised to hear you say that, Bryn. Have you seen problems arise in a hospital context or something? I had Power of Attorney for my Dad for his last 18 months, when he had advanced Parkinson's & mild dementia. I arranged it myself without using a lawyer and encountered no problems......was I just lucky? Some odd bits that I remember for @Raj: - Yes, you can apply online from the Office of the Public Guardian - I think that it took a couple of months to receive the PoAs from application - Cost was about £100 each, I think - Forms were medium-long but not impossible; needed to be signed by person granting PoA & witnessed by a third party - Finance & Wellbeing PoAs often work quite differently: Finance PoA is effective immediately unless you say otherwise, I think; whereas Wellbeing PoA only becomes effective when doctors say that the person cannot take decisions for himself/herself (e.g. because they're unconscious, have advanced dementia or whatever) - I started using the Finance PoA as soon as it was granted to manage my Dad's money, pay his bills etc. I still told him what I planned to do & tried to ask his opinion/make him aware of options, where possible, though sometimes he just told me to "do what you think is best". - Technically, I never had to produce the Wellbeing PoA as he never completely lost the power to take decisions (though, again, he sometimes just told me to decide what care was best for him) - However, I did find it very useful having the Wellbeing PoA, as it meant doctors & other health professionals were happier to reveal info to me and to discuss my Dad's care....I'd have been more blocked by confidentiality issues without it, I think. Thanks bud. Did you fill out the forms via the government website. Will we need exact financial/ health information?
Alf Bentley Posted 28 August 2019 Posted 28 August 2019 Just now, Raj said: Thanks bud. Did you fill out the forms via the government website. Will we need exact financial/ health information? Yes, did it via govt web site (4.5 years ago). I can't remember clearly what info I had to provide (should be clear to you from the online form). Pretty sure that I didn't have to give exact financial info. Can't really remember re. health, sorry.
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 28 August 2019 Posted 28 August 2019 5 hours ago, Raj said: I know you can complete one for finance and one for wellbeing. Anyone know much about them and recommend a legal eagle. I know you can do them yourself via the yougov website. We went via a solicitor who arranged it, pretty straightforward. PM me if you want to know who we used.
Guest Col city fan Posted 29 August 2019 Posted 29 August 2019 Just to clarify people, there are two types of Lasting Power of Attorney.. health and welfare is one, property and affairs is the other. Its important to get these terms right to avoid any confusion. You can be ‘donated’ either, or both, ONLY when the person has the mental capacity to appoint an LPOA.
Alf Bentley Posted 29 August 2019 Posted 29 August 2019 2 hours ago, Col city fan said: Just to clarify people, there are two types of Lasting Power of Attorney.. health and welfare is one, property and affairs is the other. Its important to get these terms right to avoid any confusion. You can be ‘donated’ either, or both, ONLY when the person has the mental capacity to appoint an LPOA. Thanks for clarifying, Col. Yes, the person granting LPOA has to have the required mental capacity when it is granted, for either type. The distinction concerns when it becomes effective - for health/welfare LPOA only when the person loses the capacity to take their own decisions, but for property/financial affairs immediately or at any specified time. Doesn't mean that the property/finance LPOA has to be used immediately, though, even if it is effective - if the person still feels confident they can take their own decision and the "attorney" agrees, it can just be there as back-up for when required. Also not mentioned: a person can appoint more than 1 attorney, to act jointly or separately. Just seen that the charge for registering each LPOA is £82 (not quite the £100 that I remembered) - so £164 if you arrange both.
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Grebfromgrebland Posted 29 August 2019 Posted 29 August 2019 4 hours ago, Bayfox said: Keep your eye out for and solicitors short on work and trying to meet targets. My Grandad had is done with Josiah Hincks for free when they were doing a promotion on them.
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