Climate Change - a poll

[CornwallFox]

Just now, leicsmac said:

Oh, the record will show that very clearly. And should the worst happen, there will be a reckoning. 

 

Have no doubt of that. 

My suspicion is that the billionaire class and Western world knows full well there's going to be huge death and destruction. But I can well believe the republicans thinking it'll give the US a chance to move in take more resources and when there's less people on earth they can throw up something to block the sunlight (with unknowable consequences). I think they're encouraging it so they can carry on regardless tbh. 

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

My suspicion is that the billionaire class and Western world knows full well there's going to be huge death and destruction. But I can well believe the republicans thinking it'll give the US a chance to move in take more resources and when there's less people on earth they can throw up something to block the sunlight (with unknowable consequences). I think they're encouraging it so they can carry on regardless tbh. 

Yes, I've heard this before; how they have such hubris that they think they can live as they do now in a vastly changed world. 

 

They, of course, are wrong. And that lesson will in all likelihood be brutal, painful, and final for them. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

12 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Yes, I've heard this before; how they have such hubris that they think they can live as they do now in a vastly changed world. 

 

They, of course, are wrong. And that lesson will in all likelihood be brutal, painful, and final for them. 

And us

 

[LCFCJohn]

20 hours ago, kenny said:

Agree entirely. 

 

We have largely cut processed food from our diet since having a child and he largely eats home cooked unprocessed food. (Treats aside, all kids deserve a maccies sometimes...). 

 

We decided that the big changes over the past 20 years have been accessible screens and processed food diet. As such, we have made steps to ensure that he is bought up without either as far as possible. Whilst the effects aren't clear, what is clear is that we have a child that is focused, calm, has excellent vocal skills and has long attention spans. 

 

Not the point of the thread, but the government should ban smart devices to under 16's and start to legislate properly on processed food.

Exactly the same with us. Even before using the farm shop, we have been conscious with having a near 4 year old, to try and bring her up on healthy foods. My wife has an app called Yuka which gives detailed information on products and some of it has been very eye opening! She does have treats but interestingly never had a Maccies! But my wife has never eaten Maccies once since I’ve known her and that’s something like 14 years since we met at Uni! 
 

Screens as well, as you say, no tablets, no TV before she goes to pre-school (she does on weekend mornings) and no TV after we’ve had dinner in an evening. Your description of calm, focused and excellent vocal skills is spot on how I’d describe my daughter but also that she is advanced for her age with the interest she shows in things and information she retains. 
 

I agree with your last bit as well. Screens and diet are the real reasons people are suffering from physical and mental health issues and in terms of child development. 

[leicsmac]

4 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

And us

 

Yes, the rest of humanity, along with a lot of the biosphere, will be along for the ride, more's the pity.

[CornwallFox]

Earth has now crossed seven of the nine “planetary boundaries” scientists use to assess whether the systems keeping our planet stable are still operating within relatively safe limits.

 

The Planetary Health Check 2026, produced by more than 60 scientists, found that every one of those seven breached boundaries is moving further in the wrong direction. Researchers warn this increases the risk of large-scale and potentially irreversible environmental changes.

 

The seven are climate change, biosphere integrity, land-system change, freshwater change, disruption of nitrogen and phosphorus cycles, pollution from synthetic chemicals and other “novel entities,” and ocean acidification.

 

Ocean acidification became the seventh boundary to be classified as breached. As oceans absorb carbon dioxide, seawater chemistry changes, creating increasing problems for corals, shell-forming organisms and entire marine food webs.

 

Four boundaries — climate change, biodiversity loss, altered nutrient cycles and novel entities such as plastics and persistent chemicals — are already classified in the report’s highest-risk “danger zone.”

 

Only two remain within the global safe operating space: stratospheric ozone depletion and atmospheric aerosol loading. The ozone boundary is an important example that environmental damage can be reversed — international restrictions on ozone-destroying chemicals have allowed the ozone layer to recover gradually.

 

Crossing a planetary boundary does not mean Earth suddenly becomes uninhabitable. It means humanity has moved beyond conditions scientists consider relatively safe, with the probability of severe disruption increasing as pressures grow.

 

Researchers say the window for reversing these trends still exists, but emissions and destruction of natural ecosystems need to begin declining rapidly within the next few years.

 

[leicsmac]

... does anyone else think we're following the Horizon Zero Dawn timeline pretty much to a T at this point?

[Trav Le Bleu]

9 hours ago, leicsmac said:

... does anyone else think we're following the Horizon Zero Dawn timeline pretty much to a T at this point?

So tempted to create a second account with the name Hades and reply, "no."

[leicsmac]

10 hours ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

So tempted to create a second account with the name Hades and reply, "no."

It's unfortunate that reference isn't more widely known. 

Edited Sunday at 11:03 by leicsmac

[leicsmac]

https://phys.org/news/2026-10-gas-frozen-arctic-ground-slowly.html

 

Ah, the methane trap. 

 

And that's not the only thing that might be in there, either. 

 

(So it might be The Talos Principle timeline, not Horizon Zero Dawn.)

[CornwallFox]

Slightly agog that this was printed in the paper of climate change denialism. 

But then I looked at the comments and they are what you'd imagine. I think the telegraph probably has the thickest readership of all the media. What sets then apart from the sun, mail etc is that these fools actually think they're the intelligent right wingers. 

 

Canadian winters threaten to freeze Europe https://share.google/ttzhKsn8JbrG4T6FE

 

[Zear0]

7 hours ago, CornwallFox said:

Slightly agog that this was printed in the paper of climate change denialism. 

But then I looked at the comments and they are what you'd imagine. I think the telegraph probably has the thickest readership of all the media. What sets then apart from the sun, mail etc is that these fools actually think they're the intelligent right wingers. 

 

Canadian winters threaten to freeze Europe https://share.google/ttzhKsn8JbrG4T6FE

 

Called Winter mate

[leicsmac]

Thankfully, the aforementioned Telegraph commentators are either bots or in the minority of thought on the matter. 

 

And that needs to be reflected in both voting patterns and subsequent policy decision making. 

[grobyfox1990]

An absolute wombat in my dept was talking about preparedness as 'there is an el nino on it's way' and saying we all need to keep stores of water, fuel, batteries, tinned food and essential goods over winter because 'oil may not get out of the straight (she definitely doesn't know it's spelt strait) passage.'

The same absolute wally that has been telling us Britain is failing because we no longer make our own oil and renewables are a waste of money and time. The slug cannot compute the connection between the two things.

At this rate I'm going to have to start having sign language conversations with my colleague who never speaks.

[TheGoldenGod]

14 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

An absolute wombat in my dept was talking about preparedness as 'there is an el nino on it's way' and saying we all need to keep stores of water, fuel, batteries, tinned food and essential goods over winter because 'oil may not get out of the straight (she definitely doesn't know it's spelt strait) passage.'

The same absolute wally that has been telling us Britain is failing because we no longer make our own oil and renewables are a waste of money and time. The slug cannot compute the connection between the two things.

At this rate I'm going to have to start having sign language conversations with my colleague who never speaks.

Wombat, wally and slug. Iconic insults here!

[Tommy G]

37 minutes ago, TheGoldenGod said:

Wombat, wally and slug. Iconic insults here!

Expected happy clapper but it never came.