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Tom Cannon - loaned to Stoke

By moore_94, in Transfer Talk

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coolhandfox

coolhandfox

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3 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Did he not do that with Preston ?

 

If you don't play him how do you know if he will be good enough or not ?

Well Enzo seemed to think not, Cooper seems to think the same.

 

He needs to play not sit 3rd choice on a bench.

whoareyaaa

whoareyaaa

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Just now, coolhandfox said:

Well Enzo seemed to think not, Cooper seems to think the same.

 

He needs to play not sit 3rd choice on a bench.

How does Cooper know how he will perform in a real game when he hasn't played one yet under him

coolhandfox

coolhandfox

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8 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

How does Cooper know how he will perform in a real game when he hasn't played one yet under him

He sees him every day in training.

Guest Lcfc82

Guest Lcfc82

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38 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Because we need a striker for the Championship as back up as they expected to sell Daka and Nacho was going to AFCON.

 

We could afford to rely on a 37 year old Vardy for 6 odd weeks.

 

Not to say he can't be good enough long term, but he needs to time to develop, being the main man for a championship team and playing 40 odd games would really benefit him long term.

If that’s the case then why didn’t we just get someone on loan. Especially with our financial situation.

 

If neither Enzo or Cooper fancy him then he’s another poor piece or recruitment. Don’t see what he’s done wrong when he’s been given a chance personally.

coolhandfox

coolhandfox

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25 minutes ago, Lcfc82 said:

If that’s the case then why didn’t we just get someone on loan. Especially with our financial situation.

 

If neither Enzo or Cooper fancy him then he’s another poor piece or recruitment. Don’t see what he’s done wrong when he’s been given a chance personally.

They probably seen him as a long term investment.

 

Just because he's not ready now doesn't mean he can't be in 18 months.

whoareyaaa

whoareyaaa

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11 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

They probably seen him as a long term investment.

 

Just because he's not ready now doesn't mean he can't be in 18 months.

We are in no position to be buying players for a long term investment

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Guest Lcfc82

Guest Lcfc82

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2 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

We are in no position to be buying players for a long term investment

Not for the fee we paid anyway 

coolhandfox

coolhandfox

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11 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

We are in no position to be buying players for a long term investment

We have to think long term, short term thinking is what got us in this mess.

coolhandfox

coolhandfox

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3 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

We have to think short term, long term thinking is what got us in this mess.

Drink and typing never works, and it was only tea..lol

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trooky

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I think we only signed him because we expected Daka to leave last season, but has turned into a waste of money. Certainly not worth the transfer fee we paid.

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whoareyaaa

whoareyaaa

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Just now, trooky said:

I think we only signed him because we expected Daka to leave last season, but has turned into a waste of money. Certainly not worth the transfer fee we paid.

Daka has done absolutely nothing to warrant a start over Tom Cannon

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Bluearmyfox28

Bluearmyfox28

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Honestly people need to relax on the expectation of the young lads. Cannon, Alves, Braybrooke, Nelson all need a season long loan of regular football, many that are expecting them to be second option to any position are going to very disappointed. 

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coolhandfox

coolhandfox

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10 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Daka has done absolutely nothing to warrant a start over Tom Cannon

Daka 7 goals and 5 assists in 1095 championship minutes, a goal contribution every 91 minutes.

 

Cannon 2 goals and 1 assist in 423 championship minutes, a goal contribution every 141 minutes.

 

Stats say other wise.

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inckley fox

inckley fox

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34 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

We are in no position to be buying players for a long term investment

Surely much of our success, including the much-lauded financial model, was based on longer-term investments. We lured up-and-coming young players with game time which other clubs wouldn't, and sold them on - often enough, at least - at a massive profit. The last time we came up and stayed up we had plenty of longer-term investments on board (signed both in the Championship, and immediately after going up). We subsequently won the league and the FA Cup, and bankrolled the project, by having made sure we had a constant conveyor belt of incoming and outgoing players who'd been signed with that long-term project in mind. And, even relatively-speaking, many of those players were less costly than our recruitment has been in the past few seasons.

 

All of our successful teams have been based on a blend of shorter-term, ready-made signings and longer-term investments. The most short-term approach to investment that I've seen at Leicester was with the Adams bargain-basement sides that misfired in 2003 and 2004, or the one which spectacularly failed to deliver instant success in the 2007-08 campaign, and then again after Sven's arrival a few years later. The issue isn't that longer-term investments are a bad idea. They're essential. And it isn't that shorter-term impact players are a bad idea either. 

 

On far too many occasions we've overpaid for unsuitable players, regardless of their age group. You always have hits and misses, we've just had a few too many costly misses. I'd say that, if anything, we're in no position to be buying a great players without a longer-term project in mind.

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whoareyaaa

whoareyaaa

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26 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Daka 7 goals and 5 assists in 1095 championship minutes, a goal contribution every 91 minutes.

 

Cannon 2 goals and 1 assist in 423 championship minutes, a goal contribution every 141 minutes.

 

Stats say other wise.

How many of Cannons minutes where off the bench ?

dooflip

dooflip

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1 hour ago, whoareyaaa said:

We are in no position to be buying players for a long term investment

We are if they are good enough to be in and around the first team. If we can find young players able to fill in for our starters such as Mavididi, Fatawu, vardy etc then it is worth bringing them in. There are also young players available abroad who would arguably walk into our first team - these would be long term investments as their value would increase, but would be good enough for where we are now.

jammie82uk

jammie82uk

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12 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

How many of Cannons minutes where off the bench ?

In 10 of his 13 appearances he was subbed on for a total of 169 mins, started 3 games subbed off twice, his only 90 mins was when he scored twice against Huddlesfield 

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Claudio Fannieri

Claudio Fannieri

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1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

Daka 7 goals and 5 assists in 1095 championship minutes, a goal contribution every 91 minutes.

 

Cannon 2 goals and 1 assist in 423 championship minutes, a goal contribution every 141 minutes.

 

Stats say other wise.

Cannon barely got a sniff of a run though, majority of his game time was cameo’s off the bench. 

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trooky

trooky

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1 hour ago, whoareyaaa said:

Daka has done absolutely nothing to warrant a start over Tom Cannon

No he hasn't but he gets picked because of his pace.

 

Any manager will choose pace for a striker. 

 

Neither is anywhere near Premier League quality though.

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CrispinLA in Texas

CrispinLA in Texas

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6 hours ago, foxgas said:

At least Cannon looks fairly competent, if inexperienced. I would throw him in at the deep end, it worked with Lineker and Smith decades ago, if we bring no one else in soon. I can't see Daka prospering at this level, he's the one who needs moving out.

Look at Liverpool, they're now starting to give their teenage prospects good game time on the pitch 

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