Are the players acting entitled

[cruzFOX]

These are supposedly professional footballers. Why are we treating them like kids who don’t know better?

yes cooper and Dawson might not have a clue what they are doing but watching some of these players makes me think they don’t have a brain and can only play when told to do so a specific way. This is something they do day in and day out. Yet today watching JJ and Farce they look like amateurs playing premier league for the first time. It’s really quite baffling to see.

Ruud will be very very busy these next few 48 hrs and best he camp out at Seagrave like Enzo did to figure this mess out before we play west ham. Come Monday morning he needs to put his foot down right away and show he means business. Some of These players don’t need an arm around the shoulder they need a kick up the arse!

[ACF]

56 minutes ago, Lcfc1994_2 said:

With hindsight, moving to seagrave was a bad idea. We invested this extra money into the training ground, but, we could have put that extra money into the first team, when we needed it to get champions league a few years ago.

 

That extra money could have been the difference between where we are now and champions league football. 

 

It felt like moving there disrupted the momentum with what we were trying to achieve at the time.

PSR rules mean you can invest into facilities, differently to transfer fees and wages for players. It was never an either/or between the two.

 

The reason we couldn’t invest into the playing squad was our poor investment into players in the first place. Really not sure more money going into that kitty would’ve helped, with the people running the show remaining in place.

[Chrysalis]

3 hours ago, Parafox said:

JV is the only one not feeling entitled IMO.

 

Head down, get on with the job, do my best every game, attitude.

 

A shame none of the rest are as committed.

Also reported to be one who respected Cooper till the end as any professional should have done.

[JimJams]

11 hours ago, J. James said:

Yep, could, should and l believe.. Inconveniently the facts are he got enough results with extremely limited players to keep us out of the relegation zone.

 

I hope you're as ready with could, should and l believe if and when  RvN takes us into it.

 

But long before that l expect our classless clueless players to yet again think they know better.

But the FACT is we're not halfway through the season, so being just outside the drop zone doesn't mean that it would have stayed that way.  Teams below us have had more difficult starts to their season, most notably Wolves, and so trying to simplify it and say that Cooper had kept us out of it until now somehow corresponds with him being able to keep us out of it over the course of the season isn't backed up by FACT, it's your opinion because your basing it on the skewed perspective of current position without taking into account the fact that there's still 5 or 6 games (depending on the team) to play before we're all at an even point in the season regarding opposition.

If we'd played Saints, Ipswich, Wolves, Palace and Everton in our first 5 and West Ham played Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Villa and Spurs in their opening 5 and we had 5 points and they had 4, would you take that as an indicator that over the course of the season we'd come out above them?  No, you wouldn't.  But that's what you're doing now. You're insisting that Cooper was on course to keep us up because 12 games in we weren't in it. 

[Sly]

Are they entitled. Maybe. However this is the beast that we’ve fed and the monster has grown. They earn more in a year, than many do in a lifetime. 
 

[Always Next Year]

They don’t give a fcuk as long as they get paid

[BKLFox]

Modern football(er’s) was watching the Salford City class of 92 program and saw them all but laying rose petals in front of Louie Barry’s feet as he walked into their boardroom when he was 19 and Salford were in Lge 2 as they were trying to get him on loan.

He also turned up in a brand new top of the range Mercedes, a 19yr old on loan player playing in Lge 2, they don’t have to graft that much once they have signed that 1st professional contract & most will believe they are above the rest of us in social standings.

 

Not saying Louie was like that just using him as an example of how modern footballers are treated from an early age.

[Parafox]

15 hours ago, accessory said:

The same JV who's thrown several managers under a bus during his time with us?

 

He's now added Cooper to his list. It hasn't made him a better captain, though.

 

You're wrong there. Who has he thrown under the bus, exactly?

 

I thought Schmeichel was the ring leader before relegation. Before or since then I can't think of any manager getting "thrown under the bus". 

 

 

[Filbertblue]

17 hours ago, cropstonfox said:

Spot on

They are trying ,they are just not good enough.

This was never a Managerial  issue,!

I agree with you that their not good enough but I don't agree with you that they are trying their best. When I watch  Ipswich and Southampton then I see their players putting much more effort into their game than ours.