BBC Drama canned

[Dr The Singh]

Might be the case if the Muslims were the ones actually complaining or suggesting it, as I see it's like a lot of other decisions being considered by people that have too much time on their hands and too much influence.

The BBC etc should just get on with making good TV and Councils, the biggest culprits in all this type of OTT actions should concentrate on the basics like Education, Safe Transportation, helping the genuinely disabled and those on the breadline not trying to make political points.

It would please me no end if Councils were actually apolitical, but that's a pipe dream.

Agreed, the BBC are there to provide entertainment and media to the masses, it should not get involved in politics and religious sentiment (other than media projects that involve it)!

I think this response by the BBC is negative and will give the facist and fundamentalist of all faiths the believe that they can change what is played on the media by protest and violence!!

[wonderboy]

The BBC has said there is no case of the episode being canned as it cost too much £ 1million if im correct.

Also muslim students at newcastle uni have ordred not 'asked' the dean of the university to add an extra hour on to dinner so they can pray this in turn means adding an extra hour on to the end of the day which they say they will be exempt from .

This is a uni of 17'000 students and the muslim students amount to 700

2 words F**K OFF

[Strokes]

Might be the case if the Muslims were the ones actually complaining or suggesting it, as I see it's like a lot of other decisions being considered by people that have too much time on their hands and too much influence.

The BBC etc should just get on with making good TV and Councils, the biggest culprits in all this type of OTT actions should concentrate on the basics like Education, Safe Transportation, helping the genuinely disabled and those on the breadline not trying to make political points.

It would please me no end if Councils were actually apolitical, but that's a pipe dream.

Absolutly, we have to be careful what we say here, most of this 'banning and offending' malarki does not come Muslims themselves, it usually comes from jumped up White council officials that get a kick out of banning things and are hiding behind the muslim population, so when we complain they can scream racist.

[Guest]

Technically that's not true they believe in different Gods...

No, it's the same god... ...just one lot believe one version, and the others believe something different, albeit the same thing until around about the year 0AD.

[MONreborn]

Agreed.

The state of this country is a **** disgrace.

Couldn't agree any more

apparently there were plans to call the xmas lights in london winter lights as they might offend non-christians. WTF?

I'm sikh and celebrate xmas as well as festivals such as Diwali and Vaisakhi.

One day this country will be taken over by muslims, like the rest of the world is gradually being. It's good that most of us sikhs fought against the muslims and did not convert....but that's just opening another can of worms.

Although i have some good muslim friends, I really do not like their religion, I'm sure that it can be researched what muslims did to sikhs in the past. BTW I'm not being racist, I just don't think it's right what they are doing to this country, they have far too much influence IMO.

[Head Honcho]

Couldn't agree any more

apparently there were plans to call the xmas lights in london winter lights as they might offend non-christians. WTF?

I'm sikh and celebrate xmas as well as festivals such as Diwali and Vaisakhi.

One day this country will be taken over by muslims, like the rest of the world is gradually being. It's good that most of us sikhs fought against the muslims and did not convert....but that's just opening another can of worms.

Although i have some good muslim friends, I really do not like their religion, I'm sure that it can be researched what muslims did to sikhs in the past. BTW I'm not being racist, I just don't think it's right what they are doing to this country, they have far too much influence IMO.

The only problem I really have with Muslims is their intolerance.

99% of the UK population support multi-culturalism, but everytime something like this crops up, you can guarantee that percentage will diminish slightly.

It's about time Muslim leaders realise this and started preaching tolerance!

[Lets Be having You]

Iget pissed of with all this muslim stuff,dont do this dont do that,cause we are afraid to offend a few,so what,i'm offended every day,having to put up with all muslim shite,but i dont go round stopping them from praying,putting up up there fooking mosque every where and all the shite that goes with that,not all muslims are bad,nor are any others,its just the muslims want to rule the world,and it aint going to happen,and untill we sort it out and fast we are going to carry on with shite we have now,and it will get so bad, there will be a backlash,from most of the uk whites,Yes thats racist,but its true,

Rivers of Blood, some of you may remember that expression, at the time the guy who said it got the sack,for being a racist,Its Now starting to happen,and its going to get worse,

have a Nice day,

[Knighton Matt]

This is a bit shocking! Source

Four in 10 Muslims in Britain want hard-line Sharia Law introduced in parts of Britain, an ICM poll revealed.

One in five also expressed sympathy with the "feelings and motives" of the July 7 suicide bombers who killed 52 innocent people in London.

However, while British Muslims come over as alienated from mainstream society, 91% said they feel "loyal" to Britain.

The survey, for the Sunday Telegraph, follows a fresh protest in Trafalgar Square by thousands of Muslims against the cartoons of the prophet Mohammed.

Sadiq Khan, the Labour MP appointed to the task force set up after the 7/7 attacks, called the findings "alarming".

"Vast numbers of Muslims feel disengaged and alienated from mainstream British society," the MP told the newspaper.

Sharia Law, which is practised in large parts of the Middle East, specifies stonings and amputations as routine punishments. Religious police are responsible for bringing suspects before special courts.

Sharia should be introduced in "predominantly Muslim" areas of Britain, according to 40% of the 500 Muslims polled. Almost the same number, 41%, opposed the move.

While 20% said they felt sympathy for the London suicide bombers' motives, another 75% said they did not. Just 1% backed the attacks.

Almost two-thirds believed video images of British troops beating Iraqi youths, uncovered last week, were representative of a wider problem in the war-ravaged country. Exactly half predicted the soldiers responsible will not be "appropriately published".

[TrickyTrev]

Did anyone bother to read the story?

If you had then you will had realised it was The Sun doing what they usually do, making a mountain out of a molehill. They obviously have one quote form one actor in spooks saying he is concerned about the reaction to the episode following the cartoon furore. There is no evidence that the BBC are planning to ban the episode, its just written into the headline.

Yeah that happens all the time in this country. Those bloody Christian fanatics preaching hatered at church on a Sunday morning need to be stopped

Ever heard of the IRA?

One day this country will be taken over by muslims, like the rest of the world is gradually being. It's good that most of us sikhs fought against the muslims and did not convert....but that's just opening another can of worms.

Well done you defended one false dogma with another, hundreds of thousands of peoples lives were lost in the process. Have a medal.

Oh and here is a little prediction, Britain will never be taken over by Muslims. Fundamentalism is more likely to turn 2nd and 3rd generation muslims off religion than it is to act as a recruitment drive. Ofcourse when the majority of the population, and the right wing media, shows disdain for the religion then those who do join that religion are more likely to commit themselves fully to it and totaly reject otside influences. Like the rule fo law, or rational thought.

Murdoch doesn't give a fock about these things though because all he wants to do is sell a few more copies of his dirty rag. For whatever reason the British public seems to love every minute of it.

Rivers of Blood, some of you may remember that expression, at the time the guy who said it got the sack,for being a racist,Its Now starting to happen,and its going to get worse,

Enoch Powell was a racist, he believed white and black peopel couldn't live in the same communities without coming to blows. It is people with views like his, on both sides, that have got us in the focked up situation that we are in now. <_<

APPARENTLY there were plans to call the xmas lights in london winter lights as they might offend non-christians. WTF?

APPARENTLY you are not allowed to sing bar bar black sheep in schools anymore because its not multi culutural.

APPARENTLY they are banning all hymns in schools in case they offend Muslims

APPARENTLY the bbc are planning on dropping an episode of spooks (which incidentally has broardcast several epsiodes on the issue of terrorism) which cost a million pound sot make.

Its always APPARENTLY. Half truths or stories from some obscure crackpot council in nowhersesville which are published in the press with no merit whatsoever other than feeding the British bizarre complex of needing to feel oppressed. <_<

EVERYBODY, WLECOME TO BRITIAN. NOT ONLY THE 4TH RICHEST ECONOMY, CENTRE OF ACADMEIC EXCELLENCE, HOME TO GREATEST CITY IN THE WORLD BUT A PLACE WHERE THE GOVERNMENT IS COMMITTED TO TRYING TO BALANCE THE RIGHT TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT PEOPLE FROM PREJUDICES AND DISCRIMINATION. tHEY DON'T DO THIS BECAUSE THEY WANT A RELIGION TO TAKE OVER, OR BECAUSE THEY HATE CHRISTIANS, NOR DO THEY HAVE A FIXATION WITH POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. NO, THEY DO IT BECAUSE RIGHT ACROSS THE POLTICAL SPECTRUM PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN PROTECTING YOU AND THIS COUNTRY. MOST PEOPLE AREN'T AS LUCKY AS YOU AND ME. THATS WHY PEOPLE WANT TO COME AND LIVE HERE. IF YOU ARE OBSESSED WITH THE IDEA GTHAT THIS COUNTRY IS GOING TO THE DOGS, IF YOU WANT IT TO BE GOVERNED BY A SINGLE RELIGION, IF YOUR NOT WILLING TO RESPECT PEOPLES RIGHT TO BELIEVE WHAT THEY CHOSE, IF YOU WON'T TAKE RESPONSIBILITY WITH YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH. PLEASE fock OFF AND EMOGRATE.

[Steven]

Did anyone bother to read the story?

If you had then you will had realised it was The Sun doing what they usually do, making a mountain out of a molehill. They obviously have one quote form one actor in spooks saying he is concerned about the reaction to the episode following the cartoon furore. There is no evidence that the BBC are planning to ban the episode, its just written into the headline.

Ever heard of the IRA?

Well done you defended one false dogma with another, hundreds of thousands of peoples lives were lost in the process. Have a medal.

Oh and here is a little prediction, Britain will never be taken over by Muslims. Fundamentalism is more likely to turn 2nd and 3rd generation muslims off religion than it is to act as a recruitment drive. Ofcourse when the majority of the population, and the right wing media, shows disdain for the religion then those who do join that religion are more likely to commit themselves fully to it and totaly reject otside influences. Like the rule fo law, or rational thought.

Murdoch doesn't give a fock about these things though because all he wants to do is sell a few more copies of his dirty rag. For whatever reason the British public seems to love every minute of it.

Enoch Powell was a racist, he believed white and black peopel couldn't live in the same communities without coming to blows. It is people with views like his, on both sides, that have got us in the focked up situation that we are in now. <_<

APPARENTLY you are not allowed to sing bar bar black sheep in schools anymore because its not multi culutural.

APPARENTLY they are banning all hymns in schools in case they offend Muslims

APPARENTLY the bbc are planning on dropping an episode of spooks (which incidentally has broardcast several epsiodes on the issue of terrorism) which cost a million pound sot make.

Its always APPARENTLY. Half truths or stories from some obscure crackpot council in nowhersesville which are published in the press with no merit whatsoever other than feeding the British bizarre complex of needing to feel oppressed. <_<

Everybody, wlecome to britian. Not only the 4th richest economy, centre of acadmeic excellence, home to greatest city in the world but a place where the government is committed to trying to balance the right to freedom of speech with the responsibility to protect people from prejudices and discrimination. They don't do this because they want a religion to take over, or because they hate christians, nor do they have a fixation with political correctness. No, they do it because right across the poltical spectrum people are interested in protecting you and this country. Most people aren't as lucky as you and me. Thats why people want to come and live here. If you are obsessed with the idea gthat this country is going to the dogs, if you want it to be governed by a single religion, if your not willing to respect peoples right to believe what they chose, if you won't take responsibility with your freedom of speech. Please fock off and emigrate.

It seems to me you have fallen for Government spin. Why not watch Dispatches this Monday, channel 4 at 8pm and see the Government spin machine at work. Remember this Government needs terrorists just as much as any extremist Muslims as they are both playing the same game. <_<

[Thracian]

What, no Lush? I thought this would have been right up her street!

[Lets Be having You]

Tricky trev,you got that bit wrong,black and white dont live well togeather just look at all the Toubles we have,trouble his we are afraid to admit this,most blacks are just as racist as whites

most young blacks have attatuide,and dont do well at school,want more info go and look @schools reports

Have a Nice Day

[TrickyTrev]

It seems to me you have fallen for Government spin. Why not watch Dispatches this Monday, channel 4 at 8pm and see the Government spin machine at work. Remember this Government needs terrorists just as much as any extremist Muslims as they are both playing the same game. <_<

Really?

Stop. Think and be honest with yourself. Do you really think this government is benfiting from people dying on their watch? If you ahve any nouse you will have come to the rather obvious conclusion that it is a disaster for the. Just in case you have come to the wrong conclusion ask your self oen more question. Even if it was beneficial for them to see members of the British public die, would they want it to happen?

As for the whole multi-culturalism issue. I know everything isn't perfect, I'm not an idiot and I come from a town called Luton one of the most "diverse" in the country. It has great problems with racial tension. I'm just intelligent enough to know that these problems are only going to go away on our part if we make an effort to eradicate the problems and make it work. Not sit and complain and take childish, rule of the mob positions.

Tricky trev,you got that bit wrong,black and white dont live well togeather just look at all the Toubles we have,trouble his we are afraid to admit this,most blacks are just as racist as whites

most young blacks have attatuide,and dont do well at school,want more info go and look @schools reports

I know, lets look at the problems of child poverty and educational aspiration and try and sort it out rather than getting on our high horses and moaning that this country is going to the dogs. It happens to be in a pretty good state with a few minor, solvable, problems greatly exaggerated by the press and thus in peoples minds.

A final thought for you all. Britian needs long term immigration or this country actually will go the dogs! Pensiosn wouldn't be able to be paid, the NHS would cease to exist, growth rates would fall and believe it or not unemployment would go up. On top of that the people who are here already see it as their hime and are here to stay.

Deal with it! Don't bother with all this "tolerence" rubbish, embrace the positive influence it can and does have on our country. Its not a matter of tolerence but one of active encouragement. Its the only logical step to take. People should debate the logical steps to take towards eradicating the problems we do have and the things that both the "indigenous" and the "migrant" populations need to do do deal with the problems of Islamic fundamentalism, isolationism, and racial tension.

Oh and finally, I have not fallen for anyone's spin. I have looked into these issues, like most issues, myself. I just happen to look with despair the negative approach to the problem taken by both sides and wish soem form of positivety and rational thought would actually help the situation rather than fill people with the feeling of self satisfaction they get from endless cynacism.

[Steven]

Stop. Think and be honest with yourself. Do you really think this government is benfiting from people dying on their watch? If you ahve any nouse you will have come to the rather obvious conclusion that it is a disaster for the. Just in case you have come to the wrong conclusion ask your self oen more question. Even if it was beneficial for them to see members of the British public die, would they want it to happen?

Are you watching Dispatches at this moment in time.

[Head Honcho]

Are you watching Dispatches at this moment in time.

Unfortunately living in Wales I have to put up with Ffermio which is Welsh for Farming

Probably have dispatches on at 4am in the morning sometime next month

[Steven]

Unfortunately living in Wales I have to put up with Ffermio which is Welsh for Farming

Probably have dispatches on at 4am in the morning sometime next month

A brief resume is that this Government are a bunch of lying bastards using terrorism in the same way as Extremist Muslims, for their own purpose. Sadly the Police are also up to the same tricks for their own purposes as well. Of course if the big one goes up it will all be somebody else's fault. <_<

[Ultra]

Really?

Stop. Think and be honest with yourself. Do you really think this government is benfiting from people dying on their watch? If you ahve any nouse you will have come to the rather obvious conclusion that it is a disaster for the. Just in case you have come to the wrong conclusion ask your self oen more question. Even if it was beneficial for them to see members of the British public die, would they want it to happen?

As for the whole multi-culturalism issue. I know everything isn't perfect, I'm not an idiot and I come from a town called Luton one of the most "diverse" in the country. It has great problems with racial tension. I'm just intelligent enough to know that these problems are only going to go away on our part if we make an effort to eradicate the problems and make it work. Not sit and complain and take childish, rule of the mob positions.

I know, lets look at the problems of child poverty and educational aspiration and try and sort it out rather than getting on our high horses and moaning that this country is going to the dogs. It happens to be in a pretty good state with a few minor, solvable, problems greatly exaggerated by the press and thus in peoples minds.

A final thought for you all. Britian needs long term immigration or this country actually will go the dogs! Pensiosn wouldn't be able to be paid, the NHS would cease to exist, growth rates would fall and believe it or not unemployment would go up. On top of that the people who are here already see it as their hime and are here to stay.

Deal with it! Don't bother with all this "tolerence" rubbish, embrace the positive influence it can and does have on our country. Its not a matter of tolerence but one of active encouragement. Its the only logical step to take. People should debate the logical steps to take towards eradicating the problems we do have and the things that both the "indigenous" and the "migrant" populations need to do to deal with the problems of Islamic fundamentalism, isolationism, and racial tension.

Oh and finally, I have not fallen for anyone's spin. I have looked into these issues, like most issues, myself. I just happen to look with despair the negative approach to the problem taken by both sides and wish some form of positivity and rational thought would actually help the situation rather than fill people with the feeling of self satisfaction they get from endless cynacism.

Well said!

[Dr The Singh]

People forget that the government is a PLC, and requires funding. Without war or strife the government will find it difficult to justify funds for war\weapons etc.

Britain is a big player in the capatilism market, and itself and US are trying to expand it's markets in middle east and other regions and methods used are very underhand and may questionable, but money makes the world go around and that's what it's all about!!

Britain needs immigration it has a lack of manpower and lacks skilled and unskilled workers in many professions.

Back to the muslim issue, if you study mohammed biography and the quran you will understand that in Islam there is no such thing as moderate, the whole of his teachings have to be obeyed or you will be punished by sharia law or burn in hell!!!

[Katy]

What, no Lush? I thought this would have been right up her street!

She is banned from this part of the forum fortunately.

I have always had this romantic view of everyone, no matter what colour they are, living together in perfect harmony (ebony and ivory anyone?) I was always proud to say I came from mulitcultural Leicester. My views have been shattered by events in the last few years though.

I actually have experienced a tiny bit of racism. An Asian lad who I used to work with called me 'white trailer park trash' and thought it was highly hilarious. I mentioned it to my supervisor and they laughed! Someone was actually suspended for saying something classed as racist to an Asian person, so wheres the equality in that? What is the difference between offending me (a white person) and an Asian person if we are all supposed to be treated the same?

[Dr The Singh]

She is banned from this part of the forum fortunately.

I have always had this romantic view of everyone, no matter what colour they are, living together in perfect harmony (ebony and ivory anyone?) I was always proud to say I came from mulitcultural Leicester. My views have been shattered by events in the last few years though.

I actually have experienced a tiny bit of racism. An Asian lad who I used to work with called me 'white trailer park trash' and thought it was highly hilarious. I mentioned it to my supervisor and they laughed! Someone was actually suspended for saying something classed as racist to an Asian person, so wheres the equality in that? What is the difference between offending me (a white person) and an Asian person if we are all supposed to be treated the same?

Usually laws are for the majority but race law generally protects the minority, racism against whites is never seen as serious as against blacks or browns, as whites are majority and black and browns ( I hate the word Asian) are seen as a persecuted minority!! It is wrong all people should be treated fairly!!

As muticultural Leicester may seen, racism still exist but what's changed is that during my youth 70's, 80's I used to get racially abused to my face, in public, by staff in shops, police, bars and general public, now, cus of this law I get people just being ignorant towards me because of my colour, for me that is there way of racially abusing me!!! For example, I was at a well known bar in leicester, I was queing to get served, I was next in line to get served, instead I was ignored 3 times, It was very obvious she was ignoring me as people were walking to the bar and getting served before me. So I shouted at her to get her attention and asked her why I was not being served and asked to speak to her manager, she told the manager that I was being abusive to her. I had a row with the manager and told them they could stuff there drinks up there arse!!

[Random Burglar]

She is banned from this part of the forum fortunately.

I have always had this romantic view of everyone, no matter what colour they are, living together in perfect harmony (ebony and ivory anyone?) I was always proud to say I came from mulitcultural Leicester. My views have been shattered by events in the last few years though.

I actually have experienced a tiny bit of racism. An Asian lad who I used to work with called me 'white trailer park trash' and thought it was highly hilarious. I mentioned it to my supervisor and they laughed! Someone was actually suspended for saying something classed as racist to an Asian person, so wheres the equality in that? What is the difference between offending me (a white person) and an Asian person if we are all supposed to be treated the same?

I know where you are coming from Katy...however many employers are scared of being labelled 'racist'. They dont have the bollocks to take action incase they are labelled as such. Its easy for them to take action if a white person is seen to be racist.

Disclaimer: This is in no way supposed to come across as racist...i have experienced this first hand with a couple of my bosses and please posters dont try and argue with me otherwise.

[The Don]

Usually laws are for the majority but race law generally protects the minority, racism against whites is never seen as serious as against blacks or browns, as whites are majority and black and browns ( I hate the word Asian) are seen as a persecuted minority!! It is wrong all people should be treated fairly!!

As muticultural Leicester may seen, racism still exist but what's changed is that during my youth 70's, 80's I used to get racially abused to my face, in public, by staff in shops, police, bars and general public, now, cus of this law I get people just being ignorant towards me because of my colour, for me that is there way of racially abusing me!!! For example, I was at a well known bar in leicester, I was queing to get served, I was next in line to get served, instead I was ignored 3 times, It was very obvious she was ignoring me as people were walking to the bar and getting served before me. So I shouted at her to get her attention and asked her why I was not being served and asked to speak to her manager, she told the manager that I was being abusive to her. I had a row with the manager and told them they could stuff there drinks up there arse!!

Can you please explain how you take that as being racist?? Anyone who has ever been into a bar at one stage has came across this problem, and I'm sure everyone gets annoyed when this happens, it seems to me that the minority are expecting racism from all quarters and take every affront as racially motivated, and this I believe is another reason for continuing uneasy relations between fellow countrymen.

[Steven]

Can you please explain how you take that as being racist?? Anyone who has ever been into a bar at one stage has came across this problem, and I'm sure everyone gets annoyed when this happens, it seems to me that the minority are expecting racism from all quarters and take every affront as racially motivated, and this I believe is another reason for continuing uneasy relations between fellow countrymen.

Probably as he was the only non-White face trying to get served.

[Dr The Singh]

Can you please explain how you take that as being racist?? Anyone who has ever been into a bar at one stage has came across this problem, and I'm sure everyone gets annoyed when this happens, it seems to me that the minority are expecting racism from all quarters and take every affront as racially motivated, and this I believe is another reason for continuing uneasy relations between fellow countrymen.

Yes, people do get ignored at bars and my 'bar presence' isn't great but in this instance it was very obvious, the bar wasn't busy and quote

she was ignoring me as people were walking to the bar and getting served before me

Maybe I should have been alittle clearer, I was in her face and would try to get her attention by saying 'excuse me', she would not respnd or even look at me, people would walk from the seating area to the bar, she would just turn away and serve the approaching customer. It wasn't just me that noticed it, it was noticed by the whole bar, it was impossible to ignore me, people who i have never seen before came to my defence when the manager arrived and were disgusted, that's how obvious it was!!

Don, you shouldn't presume anything and not every minority is the same, we are all individuals, it's people like you that stereotype and class groups together that lead to uneasy relations. I don't see myself as a minority that gets victimised at all, and I don't expect racism, majority of this country have no problem or issue with other races, it's the minority of people whether white or coloured that have an issue. My point was that in the past racism was alot more upfront and in your face, now it is much more hidden and that is because of this racism law!!

[Guest]

I have always had this romantic view of everyone, no matter what colour they are, living together in perfect harmony (ebony and ivory anyone?) I was always proud to say I came from mulitcultural Leicester. My views have been shattered by events in the last few years though.

I actually have experienced a tiny bit of racism. An Asian lad who I used to work with called me 'white trailer park trash' and thought it was highly hilarious. I mentioned it to my supervisor and they laughed! Someone was actually suspended for saying something classed as racist to an Asian person, so wheres the equality in that? What is the difference between offending me (a white person) and an Asian person if we are all supposed to be treated the same?

Same here, matey. I don't look at people as being different. I grew up in the late 70's/early 80's in an ethnically diverse area of the city. When we were small, we didn't see each other as different, we didn't notice any differences, apart from religious festivals etc.

My first real experience of racism was when as an 8 yr old, I was surrounded by a gang of asian lads from the 'big school', who were probably about 13-15 yrs old. This carried on for about a month, every night after school, until one of my friend's dad saw it all (an asian), and had a very strong word.

If I'd been an asian girl being picked on by white boys, then no doubt the authorities would have been involved, but I was told by a teacher that this wasn't a racist issue. That's one reason why I didn't tell my own parents. The teacher certainly didn't!! Imagine trying to explain how racism works one way but not another to an 8 yr old!

Having said that, I don't think two wrongs make a right. I have a lot of sympathy for anyone who has being discriminated against, whatever the reason, but I can appreciate that most people are not racist, or bigoted, and that it is a minority who hold such extreme views. I think some of the measures that are being taken are taking the piss out of most of us, and what for? Not to offend or anger a minority? Most people in this country want to get on with their own lives in peace, and not have anyone interfering with it!

Segregation is not the way forwards. How do you get people to see things from another point of view if they cannot appreciate where it is coming from? Tolerance assumes some degree of integration. As far as I'm concerned, believe what you want, but don't tell me what to believe, and don't belittle me for holding those beliefs.

Essay over....