Population-1 Posted 23 September 2006 Posted 23 September 2006 The worst point for Kelly in the post match interview must have been when Barber reminded him of the league cup draw. The combination of that clueless performance coupled with another solid MON inspired AV victory must have him worried as to how the atmosphere will pan out next month. You can guarantee it will be one of those rare occasions when the opposition manager will achieve all the attention - and for all the right reasons. This only goes to show how you must cherish your finer moments in football management - as they are fleeting for the majority. Six months ago Kelly was the saviour - now he is criticised as out of his depth. Six months ago John Gregory was on the footballing scrapheap - and is likely to be once again in another six. Six months ago Nigel Spackman was pleading with the footballing gods to give him one last stab at management - now he is staring into the abyss. The fact remains that in the top two divisions there are very few truly excellent managers - Wenger, O'Neill, Coppell.....but this is for another post.
Thracian Posted 23 September 2006 Posted 23 September 2006 I think Kelly is finding it very hard to be both coach and manager.
Population-1 Posted 23 September 2006 Posted 23 September 2006 I can forsee a Waddock-Gregory-QPR scenario developing in the next few months if things do not miraculously turn around. My worry would be who Kelly hands the reigns over to!
Thracian Posted 23 September 2006 Posted 23 September 2006 Where's Babylon? He usually speaks up for the manager.
C-man Posted 23 September 2006 Posted 23 September 2006 Some faggot has to say it, may as well be me. Alan Curbishley is available. If you havent noted the sarcasm, note that i am prepared to back him until the end of October.
Suffolk_fox Posted 23 September 2006 Posted 23 September 2006 please leave it out!!! I know people have different opinins but bloody hell, give the guy a chance!!! let me say this loud and clear..... THE BOARD IS THE PROBLEM NOT ROB KELLY!!! So the board decided the tactics and the substitutions today? We don't have a bad team - there are many skilled players in our squad, it just seems beyond inexperienced managers to get them playing consistently well. Remember, neither RK or CL had much in the way of experience (SPL is not, what I would call a very competitive league!) I'm sorry, you can only blame the board so much - at the end of the day, the buck stops with the manager. He picks his team, selects his tactics and makes his substitutions.
Daggers Posted 23 September 2006 Posted 23 September 2006 THE BOARD IS THE PROBLEM NOT ROB KELLY!!! The board is the problem...AND Rob Kelly...in as much as the board need replacing with someone that can place some investment into the club. That may or may not happen, in the meantime the team has to do as well as it can on the pitch...and it is not doing so. Who cops the flack for that? The man who does the selection, training, motivation and tactics. That would be...umm...Oi Kelly! Stand up at the back! Today is TOTALLY his responsibility, and one he shirked. He is unable to make this squad perform at this level. He is unable to learn from mistakes. He HAS to go.
Ultra Posted 24 September 2006 Posted 24 September 2006 please leave it out!!! I know people have different opinins but bloody hell, give the guy a chance!!! let me say this loud and clear..... THE BOARD IS THE PROBLEM NOT ROB KELLY!!! No, Kelly is the immediate problem. He is clearly out of his depth. But I must admit I wouldn't have much confidence in this board to choose a replacement! They've got it wrong twice in the past. So why should we trust them any more??
DanTheFoxBhoy Posted 24 September 2006 Posted 24 September 2006 hate to say it he is a nice bloke, there is a plethora of out of work managers who would do a better job Bullshit. He's doing the best he can in the current environment. I bet all the whingers can't pinpoint exactly what it is they don't like about Kelly's style of management, they're just having a cry cos we're 21st on the table. As for we have the 'worst side,' I think people with an iota of common sense will realise that if it weren't for Kelly's signings over the break we would be in a poorer position. We don't have a shitload of money to go around. This is the same manager that lead us clear of relegation last season, and his style continues. So quit bitching.
C-man Posted 24 September 2006 Posted 24 September 2006 Bullshit. He's doing the best he can in the current environment. I bet all the whingers can't pinpoint exactly what it is they don't like about Kelly's style of management, they're just having a cry cos we're 21st on the table. As for we have the 'worst side,' I think people with an iota of common sense will realise that if it weren't for Kelly's signings over the break we would be in a poorer position. We don't have a shitload of money to go around. This is the same manager that lead us clear of relegation last season, and his style continues. So quit bitching. Yes, but we're not playing the same football as last season, so has his style continued? Yes i want to give him a few more games, but yesterday, and Hull, we're unacceptable performances and results, so the situation must be looked at.
stez Posted 24 September 2006 Posted 24 September 2006 brian little is available he got a right bag of bollocks into the prem with little/no money (300k for iwen being his top payment 'til the draper transfer) much as i like RK; he seems a nice enough fellow, but what are his motivational skills? and why lump a ball up for a winger to header? what can he do with it after that?
PAULCFC Posted 24 September 2006 Posted 24 September 2006 Board/Kelly all i saw was a team at home who couldn't break a team that came for a point down.And i've seen it allready to often this season!This might bore you to death,but let me take you over my day....work fom 6 friday night till 6 sat morning.2 hours sleep,pick son up from paintballing(whatever that is!)eat!watch city do a passable impression of a side away from home and fail.get back to the car rush home to get back to work for six.Then read on my phone that RK agree's with the boo boys!What are they doing all week?
Suffolk_fox Posted 24 September 2006 Posted 24 September 2006 I just saw Steve Bruce on telly saying "You can't come to a club like Leeds and defend like we did." He went on to say what he and the team did wrong. When was the last time RK said something similar? I can't remember...
DanTheFoxBhoy Posted 24 September 2006 Posted 24 September 2006 rk is a puppet of the board! No, he's just a sensible manager who knows the current situation of things, and how much room we have to move realistically within the restraints of the current financial situation.
jumbo mills Posted 24 September 2006 Author Posted 24 September 2006 brian little is available he got a right bag of bollocks into the prem with little/no money (300k for iwen being his top payment 'til the draper transfer) much as i like RK; he seems a nice enough fellow, but what are his motivational skills? and why lump a ball up for a winger to header? what can he do with it after that? good point i would love to see him back he started a golden age for city in 1990, that lasted 10 years
Mort Posted 24 September 2006 Posted 24 September 2006 rk is a puppet of the board! No he's just a symptom of the real problem, namley "the board" who, unlike the boards at a number of other clubs formerly in the prem, have totally failed to attract any inward investment, provide any leadership, supply any vision and have, as a result, completly failed to instill any confidence in the club amougst supporters or anyone else involved or (more importantly) potentially involved with the club. RK seems like a decent bloke, he's a competant coach and he had the wearwithal to save us last march, but he cant sustain it, the end of last season was nearly as poor as the begining, and to be fair to RK he never came out and said he was really interested in the job at the time, the desperation and short sightedness of the board is at fault not simply RK. Could a new board get us out our current mess quickly... probably not, but they could provide the leadership, passion and (critically) credibility to start us on the road to recovery the current board clearly have neither the credibility or ability to do so.
jumbo mills Posted 24 September 2006 Author Posted 24 September 2006 anyone with a few million to spend would do
BartonFox Posted 24 September 2006 Posted 24 September 2006 Bullshit. He's doing the best he can in the current environment. I bet all the whingers can't pinpoint exactly what it is they don't like about Kelly's style of management, they're just having a cry cos we're 21st on the table. As for we have the 'worst side,' I think people with an iota of common sense will realise that if it weren't for Kelly's signings over the break we would be in a poorer position. We don't have a shitload of money to go around. This is the same manager that lead us clear of relegation last season, and his style continues. So quit bitching. Where do we start? Lets begin with the fact the team isn't fit, nowhere even close to being fit to play at this level. Moving on to the signing and re-signing of Andy Johnson and Danny Tiatto respectively. The belief that Paddy McCarthey is a captain. The addition of Josh Low and Gareth McAuley who are out of their depth. The persistance with Chris O'Grady. How we lined up with 6 defenders for the opening games. I don't give a f'ck if he saved us from relegation last season, as we have been shite since April with tepid, weak and spineless performances. He is f'cking useless as a manager and the players clearly are not playing for him.
Master Fox Posted 24 September 2006 Posted 24 September 2006 Kelly has to go! He hasn’t got the experience or a big enough personality to manage a club like Leicester. If Milan does come in the first thing he would want would be a high profile manager with bags of experience to drag this club from the bottom of the barrel. In every game this season including the games we’ve won the football has been atrocious. We must learn from the mistakes of last season by not letting the cretinous exploits of the manger continue for too long. I sick and tired of hearing about the clubs financial predicament. If we don’t invest now in new coaching staff, loan players and signings in January the club would incur monumental loses far greater plummeting into League 1 heavily out weighing a bit of investment trying to keep the club in this division.
DanTheFoxBhoy Posted 24 September 2006 Posted 24 September 2006 Where do we start? Lets begin with the fact the team isn't fit, nowhere even close to being fit to play at this level. Moving on to the signing and re-signing of Andy Johnson and Danny Tiatto respectively. The belief that Paddy McCarthey is a captain. The addition of Josh Low and Gareth McAuley who are out of their depth. The persistance with Chris O'Grady. How we lined up with 6 defenders for the opening games. I don't give a f'ck if he saved us from relegation last season, as we have been shite since April with tepid, weak and spineless performances. He is f'cking useless as a manager and the players clearly are not playing for him. We saw how great the midfield was without Tiatto. He may have had more shit games than most but at least he knows his position well. McAuley might be out of his depth but there is no sign from Low that this is the case. I think it was a mistake to not start him yesterday. COG has better individual runs than the others, which is good for an individual player but shit considering the whole point is to be fed chances by the attacking midfield. I agree the opening lineups were flawed but Kelly was quick to correct them, as he will no doubt be next week.
BartonFox Posted 24 September 2006 Posted 24 September 2006 We saw how great the midfield was without Tiatto. He may have had more shit games than most but at least he knows his position well. McAuley might be out of his depth but there is no sign from Low that this is the case. I think it was a mistake to not start him yesterday. COG has better individual runs than the others, which is good for an individual player but shit considering the whole point is to be fed chances by the attacking midfield. I agree the opening lineups were flawed but Kelly was quick to correct them, as he will no doubt be next week. My what a dreadful attempt at excusing Kelly.
DanTheFoxBhoy Posted 24 September 2006 Posted 24 September 2006 My what a dreadful attempt at excusing Kelly. I'm not excusing him, he's made mistakes and I'm sure he'd agree. But I am defending his position at the club as I believe he has demonstrated room for movement which wasn't demonstrated by Levein.
BartonFox Posted 24 September 2006 Posted 24 September 2006 I'm not excusing him, he's made mistakes and I'm sure he'd agree. But I am defending his position at the club as I believe he has demonstrated room for movement which wasn't demonstrated by Levein. Do me a favour, he was as much of the problem as Levein. He was shoehorned in by the Board because of his contacts and knowledge of the game, well that sums him up and everything about Leicester City at the minute. He is not good enough the players are taking the piss and he is too weak to handle it. He isn't all that as a coach either, in fact I would say he is a con artist and those responsible for bringing him to the Club, then employing him as manager after he said he didn't want it, should be booted out as well.
Mort Posted 24 September 2006 Posted 24 September 2006 He isn't all that as a coach either, in fact I would say he is a con artist and those responsible for bringing him to the Club, then employing him as manager after he said he didn't want it, should be booted out as well. That's something i mentioned, he was pretty lukewarm when the prospect of a permanent contract was first mooted and everyone seems to forget that he was assistant to CL so where the "good coach" label comes from I really don’t know. I’ll give him his due, he got us out of a whole when he took over but honestly! He really has shown nothing to instil much confidence since we looked safe, I was cautiously optimistic about this season I though we’d have to improve but if you look at our performances since March they’ve been getting worse and worse… something is going to have to give and it the leadership of the club as a whole IMHO.
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