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In a bizarre twist of fate, Nana Moon from Eastenders has risen from the dead and proclaimed her backing for Leicester City manager Rob Kelly.

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BBC Leicester Rims the club yet again.

Posted

I feel that supporting Leicester City is utterly frustrating these days, and was equally frustrating under Levein and Adams.

So many times I think surely Kelly will change his approach now after another 90 minutes of safety first football has resulted in a narrow defeat or a bore draw. But no. Same old formula. Same old limitations.

Read all the forums and the message from most fans is the same. For mercy's sake try to win the matches by playing some football that people want to watch.

Occasionally we add an attacker to the mix, only to take out another attacker and replace him with a spoiler like Hughes.

We've got a decent back line who seem to concede a goal a game whatever. We have a decent goallie and three acceptable centre-backs plus Nils in reserve. Even accepting three of those four can't pass, only two need to play at a time because two non-passing, non attackers is enough.

Everyone else should be contributing in defence and attack and anything from the centre-backs is a bonus.

Kelly must surely realise he has to link the different sections of his side but he refuses to do this either because the places of certain people seem to be sacred, and with no justification or because Kelly's too cautious and lacking sufficient faith in his defence.

As for a replacement I'd love Keegan but, whatever is decided I'd like someone who believes in attack, who knows how to attack responsibly and has the courage not to be deterrred when there are setbacks.

We've suffered enough with defensively biased football - in fact I'm sick of us constantly flirting with relegation as a result.

So if we cannot afford anyone decent, charismatic and high profile, forget the Joe Average jobsworths who'll put their head above the parapet and let Beaglehole and Stowell do the job but under strict instructions about what their approach should be.

I know both are capable cos I've seen them doing it. And they know our players just as Kelly does. Sadly, from what I've seen RK has never got the best out of them yet and the way he balances his teams he never will.

Bring Sheehan back from Mansfield. Revive the Reserves team so there's a full fixture list to keep everyone fit. Get working on, free-kicks, constant support, passing and moving and pick the people who can deliver what's done on the training ground (instead of having to do it all again).

Then put a team out which reflects our strengths and makes sure our clutch of perfectly capable strikers get proper support from midfield, from the wings and from full-back.

Get rid of all our negative footballers as swiftly as possible and let's build and present something to be proud of along the following lines:

Logan;

Stearman, McCarthy/Kisnorbo/McAuley, Sheehan/AN Other;

Gradel/Hume/Wesolowski/Williams/Porter/Tiatto;

Hammond, O'Grady, Fryatt, Dodds, Chambers.

Additional spares:

Kenton, Nils, Smedley, King, Odhiambo.

That's 22 players plus anyone else we can bring in for anyone I've not included. How many more do we need? They'll only make for disharmony unless they are categorically better than what we have and we can therefore move someone else on.

The above is an as-is scenario. It doesn't assume we're going to get an investor out of nowhere or an exciting injection of cash.

People talk about giving Kelly more time. And if there was any sign that Kelly was listening to the fans I would agree. But there isn't. Entirely because of Kelly's tactics and selections, there is nothing about our team which makes you think "be patient, I see where he's going with this and we're starting to look a decent unit." Our results may sometimes flatter us but, to look at, the performances are dire.

Kelly's not new. His influence at the club has been felt for over a year. It was suggested he blood some players at the end of last season and that he needed to find goalscoring midfielders to replace Joey, and a winger who scores. What happened?.

All he bought was a winger who doesn't score - he leaves out the one who does. More than that he refuses to change the shape of the team according to the players available, often resulting in at least a couple of our best players sitting on the bench.

We also concede the initiative far too willingly and often for no logical reason. None of those things fill me with confidence. Quite the contrary.

I think Kelly's epitaph will read the same as Levein's. If only he'd listened, learned and been prepared to adjust his thinking.

He still has the chance. And I would love him to get the message. But there is non so blind as those who won't see and I doubt he'll get much longer.

The message is clear. It is time we played some proper football.

Posted

I'm tempted to say yes but with no money to spend isn't the next incumbent going to be in the same position as RK this time next year?

I can't help thinking that if we'd stuck with CL and avoided relegation we'd be doing a lot better then we are currently!

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I'm tempted to say yes but with no money to spend isn't the next incumbent going to be in the same position as RK this time next year?

I can't help thinking that if we'd stuck with CL and avoided relegation we'd be doing a lot better then we are currently!

Well selling the "family silver" and having an eye for some decent attacking options would be one way.. like Thrace mentioned about Keegan and someone else mentioned about Billy Davies.

Posted

I feel that supporting Leicester City is utterly frustrating these days, and was equally frustrating under Levein and Adams.

So many times I think surely Kelly will change his approach now after another 90 minutes of safety first football has resulted in a narrow defeat or a bore draw. But no. Same old formula. Same old limitations.

Read all the forums and the message from most fans is the same. For mercy's sake try to win the matches by playing some football that people want to watch.

Occasionally we add an attacker to the mix, only to take out another attacker and replace him with a spoiler like Hughes.

We've got a decent back line who seem to concede a goal a game whatever. We have a decent goallie and three acceptable centre-backs plus Nils in reserve. Even accepting three of those four can't pass, only two need to play at a time because two non-passing, non attackers is enough.

Everyone else should be contributing in defence and attack and anything from the centre-backs is a bonus.

Kelly must surely realise he has to link the different sections of his side but he refuses to do this either because the places of certain people seem to be sacred, and with no justification.Either that or Kelly's too cautious and lacking sufficient faith in his defence.

As for a replacement I'd love Keegan but, whatever is decided I'd like someone who believes in attack, who knows how to attack responsibly and has the courage not to be deterrred when there are setbacks.

We've suffered enough with defensively biased football - in fact I'm sick of us constantly flirting with relegation as a result.

So if we cannot afford anyone decent, charismatic and high profile forget the Joe Average jobsworths who'll put their head above the parapet and let Beaglehole and Stowell do the job but under strict instructions about what their approach should be.

I know both are capable cos I've seen them doing it. And they know our players just as Kelly does. Sadly, from what I've seen RK has never got the best out of them yet and the way he balances his teams he never will.

Bring Sheehan back from Mansfield. Revive the Reserves team so there's a full fixture list to keep everyone fit. Get working on, free-kicks, constant support, passing and moving and pick the people who can deliver what's done on the training ground (instead of having to do it all again).

Then put a team out which reflects our strengths and makes sure our clutch of perfectly capable strikers get proper support from midfield, from the wings and from full-back.

Get rid of all our negative footballers as swiftly as possible and let's build and present something to be proud of along the following lines:

Logan;

Stearman, McCarthy/Kisnorbo/McAuley, Sheehan/AN Other;

Gradel/Hume/Wesolowski/Williams/Porter/Tiatto;

Hammond, O'Grady, Fryatt, Dodds, Chambers.

Additional spares:

Kenton, Nils, Smedley, King, Odhiambo.

That's 22 players plus anyone else we can bring in for anyone I've not included. How many more do we need? They'll only make for disharmony unless they are categorically better than what we have and can therefore move someone else on.

The above is an as-is scenario. It doesn't assume we're going to get an investor out of nowhere or an exciting injection of cash.

People talk about giving Kelly more time. And if there was any sign that Kelly was listening to the fans I would agree. But there isn't. Entirely because of Kelly's tactics and selections, there is nothing about our team which makes you think "be patient, I see where he's going with this and we're starting to look a decent unit." Our results may sometimes flatter us but, to look at, the performances are dire.

Kelly's not new. His influence at the club has been felt for over a year. It was suggeested he blood some players at the end of last season and that he needed to find goalscoring midfielders to replace Joey, and a winger who scores. What happened?.

All he bought was a winger who doesn't score - he leaves out the one who does. More than that he refuses to change the shape of the team according to the players available, often resulting in at least a couple of our best players sitting on the bench.

We also concede the initiative far too willingly and often for no logical reason. None of those things fill me with confidence. Quite the contrary.

I think Kelly's epitaph will read the same as Levein's. If only he'd listened, learned and been prepared to adjust his thinking.

He still has the chance. And I would love him to get the message. But there is non so blind as those who won't see and I doubt he'll get much longer.

The message is clear. It is time we played some proper football.

I agree 100% and it's a pity this has no way of ending on RK desk to give hime a much needed wake up call, I personally want to see him and LCFC do well, but unless some if not all of the above happens it never will

Posted

I agree 100% and it's a pity this has no way of ending on RK desk to give hime a much needed wake up call, I personally want to see him and LCFC do well, but unless some if not all of the above happens it never will

I'm sure Leicester City will get the message - there are enough messages along the same lines - and I'm almost equally sure that no-one will listen.

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I'm sure Leicester City will get the message - there are enough messages along the same lines - and I'm almost equally sure that no-one will listen.

It's in RK hands..........he may not want to make changes, no one likes going against there instincts and there beliefs in which dictates there style of play!!! If things continue as they are the board will have to make a decision!!!

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It's in RK hands..........he may not want to make changes, no one likes going against there instincts and there beliefs in which dictates there style of play!!! If things continue as they are the board will have to make a decision!!!

That's why I hope he listens. I'm rather like I believe Babylon to be. I don't like seeing people lose their jobs and I don't think constant changing of managers is a good thing.

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That's why I hope he listens. I'm rather like I believe Babylon to be. I don't like seeing people lose their jobs and I don't think constant changing of managers is a good thing.

Same, here, i can't see the revolving door of managers being a good thing for the club and the players. I can accept RK being a novice and will make mistakes but only if he learns from them!! I'm grateful for RK to save us last season but the slate is clean and at this time and moment I can see him being sacked by xmas!!!

Posted

Same, here, i can't see the revolving door of managers being a good thing for the club and the players. I can accept RK being a novice and will make mistakes but only if he learns from them!! I'm grateful for RK to save us last season but the slate is clean and at this time and moment I can see him being sacked by xmas!!!

He will only go if we are languishing at the bottom... and by that time it will be too late. :unsure:

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He will only go if we are languishing at the bottom... and by that time it will be too late. :unsure:

Not read it but I'll try to get a copy. I'd imagine Logan will be better off establishing himself rather than sitting on some bench or in some reserve team watching the stars play. Compliments to Mike Stowell though cos the lads has come on wonderfully. :thumbup:

Posted

Definitely one thing kellys been good at is playing the young guns. Although i would love to see max gradel or louis dodds play so we know their ability a bit more.

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Definatley one thing kellys been good at is playing the young guns. Although i would love to see max gradel or louis dodds play so we no there bility a bit more.

You are right. And it is something he deserves credit for. I just wish he'd make sure they had proper supporting players around them.

What seems to be missing with the first team is the instinctive comeraderie that existed in the Reserves and exists now in the Academy. The instinct to back everyone up and to pass and move for each other.

Against Colchester, for instance, I couldn't believe how isolated Porter was left at times. Nils rarely supports anyway but neither did anyone from midfield.

The only time I've seen it in the first team this season was against Macclesfield, particularly second half when Hume, COG, Williams, Porter, Weso and Low were combining really well at times and creating all sorts of opportunities.

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some people are very quick to assume they know everything.

kelly is a young manager cutting his teeth in a hard division,do you really think he thinks he is on a hiding to nothing,what he shows is faith in a young group of players and he is confident in the ability of his squad.

he has never once said we would win the division but he did say he would get the best out of what we have got and improve the atmos that we were sadly lacking under levin.

this bloke is as genuine as you get so to those of you having a go.

get off his back and do something usefull and support the club that you claim to do

Posted

some people are very quick to assume they know everything.

kelly is a young manager cutting his teeth in a hard division,do you really think he thinks he is on a hiding to nothing,what he shows is faith in a young group of players and he is confident in the ability of his squad.

he has never once said we would win the division but he did say he would get the best out of what we have got and improve the atmos that we were sadly lacking under levin.

this bloke is as genuine as you get so to those of you having a go.

get off his back and do something usefull and support the club that you claim to do

Yes you miserable bunch...get off Kelly's back, just like Fleckney Fox says!

Shame on you all for suggesting that we could do better by getting in someone with more experience, based just on two wins from ten games this season.

:P:D

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Yes you miserable bunch...get off Kelly's back, just like Fleckney Fox says!

Shame on you all for suggesting that we could do better by getting in someone with more experience, based just on two wins from ten games this season.

:P:D

:thumbup:

but kelly did not apply did he our visionary board did that for us.

Posted

some people are very quick to assume they know everything.

kelly is a young manager cutting his teeth in a hard division,do you really think he thinks he is on a hiding to nothing,what he shows is faith in a young group of players and he is confident in the ability of his squad.

he has never once said we would win the division but he did say he would get the best out of what we have got and improve the atmos that we were sadly lacking under levin.

this bloke is as genuine as you get so to those of you having a go.

get off his back and do something usefull and support the club that you claim to do

I don't think anyone has ever said Kelly is not a genuinely good bloke.

Perhaps that's why some of us take time and trouble to at least try to assess what's wrong in the hope that he'll put it right and keep not only his job but Leicester City in the Championship.

.

Posted

I feel that supporting Leicester City is utterly frustrating these days, and was equally frustrating under Levein and Adams.

So many times I think surely Kelly will change his approach now after another 90 minutes of safety first football has resulted in a narrow defeat or a bore draw. But no. Same old formula. Same old limitations.

Read all the forums and the message from most fans is the same. For mercy's sake try to win the matches by playing some football that people want to watch.

Occasionally we add an attacker to the mix, only to take out another attacker and replace him with a spoiler like Hughes.

We've got a decent back line who seem to concede a goal a game whatever. We have a decent goallie and three acceptable centre-backs plus Nils in reserve. Even accepting three of those four can't pass, only two need to play at a time because two non-passing, non attackers is enough.

Everyone else should be contributing in defence and attack and anything from the centre-backs is a bonus.

Kelly must surely realise he has to link the different sections of his side but he refuses to do this either because the places of certain people seem to be sacred, and with no justification.Either that or Kelly's too cautious and lacking sufficient faith in his defence.

As for a replacement I'd love Keegan but, whatever is decided I'd like someone who believes in attack, who knows how to attack responsibly and has the courage not to be deterrred when there are setbacks.

We've suffered enough with defensively biased football - in fact I'm sick of us constantly flirting with relegation as a result.

So if we cannot afford anyone decent, charismatic and high profile forget the Joe Average jobsworths who'll put their head above the parapet and let Beaglehole and Stowell do the job but under strict instructions about what their approach should be.

I know both are capable cos I've seen them doing it. And they know our players just as Kelly does. Sadly, from what I've seen RK has never got the best out of them yet and the way he balances his teams he never will.

Bring Sheehan back from Mansfield. Revive the Reserves team so there's a full fixture list to keep everyone fit. Get working on, free-kicks, constant support, passing and moving and pick the people who can deliver what's done on the training ground (instead of having to do it all again).

Then put a team out which reflects our strengths and makes sure our clutch of perfectly capable strikers get proper support from midfield, from the wings and from full-back.

Get rid of all our negative footballers as swiftly as possible and let's build and present something to be proud of along the following lines:

Logan;

Stearman, McCarthy/Kisnorbo/McAuley, Sheehan/AN Other;

Gradel/Hume/Wesolowski/Williams/Porter/Tiatto;

Hammond, O'Grady, Fryatt, Dodds, Chambers.

Additional spares:

Kenton, Nils, Smedley, King, Odhiambo.

That's 22 players plus anyone else we can bring in for anyone I've not included. How many more do we need? They'll only make for disharmony unless they are categorically better than what we have and can therefore move someone else on.

The above is an as-is scenario. It doesn't assume we're going to get an investor out of nowhere or an exciting injection of cash.

People talk about giving Kelly more time. And if there was any sign that Kelly was listening to the fans I would agree. But there isn't. Entirely because of Kelly's tactics and selections, there is nothing about our team which makes you think "be patient, I see where he's going with this and we're starting to look a decent unit." Our results may sometimes flatter us but, to look at, the performances are dire.

Kelly's not new. His influence at the club has been felt for over a year. It was suggeested he blood some players at the end of last season and that he needed to find goalscoring midfielders to replace Joey, and a winger who scores. What happened?.

All he bought was a winger who doesn't score - he leaves out the one who does. More than that he refuses to change the shape of the team according to the players available, often resulting in at least a couple of our best players sitting on the bench.

We also concede the initiative far too willingly and often for no logical reason. None of those things fill me with confidence. Quite the contrary.

I think Kelly's epitaph will read the same as Levein's. If only he'd listened, learned and been prepared to adjust his thinking.

He still has the chance. And I would love him to get the message. But there is non so blind as those who won't see and I doubt he'll get much longer.

The message is clear. It is time we played some proper football.

absolutely cracking shout :thumbup:

keegan wont be coming due to a venture he has set up in scotland that will tie him down for 3 to 4 years.

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:thumbup:

but kelly did not apply did he our visionary board did that for us.

Come on. The Board were virtually left with no choice in the end. Kelly plundered some results, the fans thought it daft to change the man in charge when things were going well and both were right.

We survived which was our only target in the end last season.

This season we've expected to move forward. I don't think most of the realistic fans expected promotion - just some signs that we were moving forward from the dourist football we've been playing for too long and instead showing some signs of producing the sort of football which might take us towards the top end of the table...and an eventual challenge for promotion.

Right now that's not happening.

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